Arafat's cause of death revealed
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It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. The French Government will not release the reasons for his death or condition. It is to be kept a family secret. It does not take an expert to figure out what killed this man. The indications over the weeks were that his immune system was defective and that he suffered from some kind of virus. All the symptoms pointed to Aids (HIV). This is the only disease that disgraces and humiliates a person, and the only one that someone would want kept secret. Now stories are[^] appearing[^] that suggest his illness is being kept under wraps to preserve his apparent good standing in the world community. One Whitehouse rep is quoted as saying, "We know he has a blood disease that is depressing his immune system. We know that he has suddenly dropped considerable weight -- possibly as much as one-third of all his body weight. We know that he is suffering intermittent mental dysfunction. What does this sound like?" It'll be interesting to see if the French government will continue to supress the truth and keep it a secret.
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Who cares?
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It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. The French Government will not release the reasons for his death or condition. It is to be kept a family secret. It does not take an expert to figure out what killed this man. The indications over the weeks were that his immune system was defective and that he suffered from some kind of virus. All the symptoms pointed to Aids (HIV). This is the only disease that disgraces and humiliates a person, and the only one that someone would want kept secret. Now stories are[^] appearing[^] that suggest his illness is being kept under wraps to preserve his apparent good standing in the world community. One Whitehouse rep is quoted as saying, "We know he has a blood disease that is depressing his immune system. We know that he has suddenly dropped considerable weight -- possibly as much as one-third of all his body weight. We know that he is suffering intermittent mental dysfunction. What does this sound like?" It'll be interesting to see if the French government will continue to supress the truth and keep it a secret.
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Who is this "Arafat"? Is he someone important?
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Who cares?
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Who is this "Arafat"? Is he someone important?
Nah, no one important in the least. :)
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Did the world care when Magic Johnson contracted HIV?
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Judah Himango wrote: Magic Johnson Who? pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush
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Did the world care when Magic Johnson contracted HIV?
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Not my world, until now I didn'tknow any "Magic Johnson" (some pimply teen jokes excluded). Besides, that was Magic Johnson (I assume some famous foot/base/basketball player hero?), not Yassir Arafat, a person sitting between to many chairs already. Besides, that was 1991, not 2004. An era ends, a long-term burning conflict could find a solution, or escalate to an explosion. And you care about if he stuck his Magic Johnson into some other guys anus? I don't think it's good that france doesn't tell. But in my absolutely arrogant opinion, if it was HIV, the can keep their mouth shut.
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Judah Himango wrote: If it truely doesn't matter as you say, why are the Palestinians and the French government concealing it? Perhaps to shield his family or his reputation; but you completely missed my point. We know he died of a disease (not poisoning, not gunshot wounds, i.e. no evidence of political murder here). Knowing the specifics is neither necessecary nor useful other than to satisfy morbid curiousity (or worse yet, to besmirch a reputation that hardly needs it, and in doing so inflame the anger of those who thought him a hero). This kind of speculation only serves to disgrace the speculator. I had little use for the man, but I do not care to stoop to smear him in death, nor should you. Why would anyone waste time arguing with an accountant about anything? Their sole function is to record what happenned, and any higher aspirations are mere delusions of grandeur. On the ladder of productive contributions they are the little rubber pads at the bottom that keep the thing from sliding out from under you. - Roger Wright
Rob Graham wrote: We know he died of a disease (not poisoning, not gunshot wounds, i.e. no evidence of political murder here). Who are "we"? Hamas et al. threat to avenge Arafat's poisoning.
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I'm never one to argue that concealing the truth is a good thing, even in death. Do you disagree?
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Knowing the truth is usually a good thing, but not always. In any case, I don't think you have much evidence to backup your conspiracy theory in the first place. ----------------------------------------------------- Empires Of Steel[^]
As far as evidence goes, while a Whitehouse official, several newspaper articles, and rumors around the web are hardly concrete enough to call truth, I would say there's enough evidence for plausible speculation. Regardless of whether anyone believes he died of AIDS, I think the truth is always a good thing. I can't think of a single case when the knowing a lie or nothing at all is inarguably better than knowing the truth, can you?
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It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. The French Government will not release the reasons for his death or condition. It is to be kept a family secret. It does not take an expert to figure out what killed this man. The indications over the weeks were that his immune system was defective and that he suffered from some kind of virus. All the symptoms pointed to Aids (HIV). This is the only disease that disgraces and humiliates a person, and the only one that someone would want kept secret. Now stories are[^] appearing[^] that suggest his illness is being kept under wraps to preserve his apparent good standing in the world community. One Whitehouse rep is quoted as saying, "We know he has a blood disease that is depressing his immune system. We know that he has suddenly dropped considerable weight -- possibly as much as one-third of all his body weight. We know that he is suffering intermittent mental dysfunction. What does this sound like?" It'll be interesting to see if the French government will continue to supress the truth and keep it a secret.
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Personally I could care less. I like to listen to Queen because I like the music, what Freddy M did in his spare time was his business. I don't particularly like Arafat, but my opinion of him is not changed by his sexuality or cause of death. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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Rob Graham wrote: We know he died of a disease (not poisoning, not gunshot wounds, i.e. no evidence of political murder here). Who are "we"? Hamas et al. threat to avenge Arafat's poisoning.
Felix Gartsman wrote: Who are "we"? Hamas et al. threat to avenge Arafat's poisoning "we" are not Hamas... Perhaps Hamas poisoned him? Is this how they know? Was that what his wife meant by 'his successors are trying to bury him alive"? You don't think both the French and his wife would be telling us if the diagnosis involved poisoning? I have no clue what killed Arafat. I also feel no need to know more than that he is gone. My whole point here is that the spreading of unfounded speculation as to the cause of his death helps no one. And his family is entitled to keep it to themselves if they wish. Why would anyone waste time arguing with an accountant about anything? Their sole function is to record what happenned, and any higher aspirations are mere delusions of grandeur. On the ladder of productive contributions they are the little rubber pads at the bottom that keep the thing from sliding out from under you. - Roger Wright
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Rob Graham wrote: The man is dead. What difference could the cause of his death possibly make in the grand scheme of things? Would it not be better to let his family preserve whatever dignity they can, and simply move on. Is there any benefit to using his death to sow more seeds of hatred? Weren't enough sown during his life? I agree to a point. If this is nothing more than mythmaking about the aids there is nothing to be served by it. If true his devotees will not believe it, and if false, his detractors will not believe it. It only serves to cloud other possibilities. Hmmmm? Otoh, if he did die of radioactive poisoning I would hope folks take notice. Best, Jerry
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Radiation is not particularly selective. If that was involved, I would expect to see his bodygaurds begin to drop soon... Why would anyone waste time arguing with an accountant about anything? Their sole function is to record what happenned, and any higher aspirations are mere delusions of grandeur. On the ladder of productive contributions they are the little rubber pads at the bottom that keep the thing from sliding out from under you. - Roger Wright
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As far as evidence goes, while a Whitehouse official, several newspaper articles, and rumors around the web are hardly concrete enough to call truth, I would say there's enough evidence for plausible speculation. Regardless of whether anyone believes he died of AIDS, I think the truth is always a good thing. I can't think of a single case when the knowing a lie or nothing at all is inarguably better than knowing the truth, can you?
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Judah Himango wrote: As far as evidence goes, while a Whitehouse official, several newspaper articles, and rumors around the web are hardly concrete to call truth, I wouldn't say there's no evidence... Then you should read what I wrote again: I don't think you have much evidence Judah Himango wrote: Regardless of whether anyone believes he died of AIDS, I think the truth is always a good thing. I can't think of a single case when the knowing a lie or nothing at all is inarguably better than knowing the truth, can you? Yes. Although I can understand your confusion given your background as an engineer. As an engineer and in the world of science, we look at ways to understand the world and solve problems. Any untruth is potential for disaster. But, once you step over into the social world - the world of psychology, myth, and heros - you understand that what is untrue can, in fact, play a positive role. Consider these situations: If Martin Luther King and Gandhi were rabid hedonists and hypocrites, would it be better for the world to know them as they are, or does their mythological character inspire people towards nonviolence in a way that would make the truth harmful? What if you discovered evidence that humankind had no free will and there was no afterlife? Further, what if you knew that this information would cause humanity to slump into a depression and lead towards humankind's extinction? Would it be better to inform people, or is there some benefit to allowing humankind to remain blissfully ignorant of their own position? (Personally, I don't believe in God or an afterlife, and I will argue for that point, but in my articles on the subject, I warn people. I know that there are people who would be happier in ignorance. Myself, I reach for truth, but don't inflict it on other people.) What if the love of your life cheated on you. Would it be better to know it or would it be better that you remained in ignorance. Now, of course, there are questions of "will it happen again?" which argue for truth. But, what if it won't happen again, and what if you are insecure and you would have a tendency to obsess about it to the point that you would become miserable and would no longer look at her again, ultimately leading to a life of solitude and loneliness? There are even more mundane situations where a girl asks you if she is fat. I have a friend who has problems with an eating disorder. When she asks me i
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Did the world care when Magic Johnson contracted HIV?
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Judah Himango wrote: Did the world care when Magic Johnson contracted HIV? No.
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Judah Himango wrote: As far as evidence goes, while a Whitehouse official, several newspaper articles, and rumors around the web are hardly concrete to call truth, I wouldn't say there's no evidence... Then you should read what I wrote again: I don't think you have much evidence Judah Himango wrote: Regardless of whether anyone believes he died of AIDS, I think the truth is always a good thing. I can't think of a single case when the knowing a lie or nothing at all is inarguably better than knowing the truth, can you? Yes. Although I can understand your confusion given your background as an engineer. As an engineer and in the world of science, we look at ways to understand the world and solve problems. Any untruth is potential for disaster. But, once you step over into the social world - the world of psychology, myth, and heros - you understand that what is untrue can, in fact, play a positive role. Consider these situations: If Martin Luther King and Gandhi were rabid hedonists and hypocrites, would it be better for the world to know them as they are, or does their mythological character inspire people towards nonviolence in a way that would make the truth harmful? What if you discovered evidence that humankind had no free will and there was no afterlife? Further, what if you knew that this information would cause humanity to slump into a depression and lead towards humankind's extinction? Would it be better to inform people, or is there some benefit to allowing humankind to remain blissfully ignorant of their own position? (Personally, I don't believe in God or an afterlife, and I will argue for that point, but in my articles on the subject, I warn people. I know that there are people who would be happier in ignorance. Myself, I reach for truth, but don't inflict it on other people.) What if the love of your life cheated on you. Would it be better to know it or would it be better that you remained in ignorance. Now, of course, there are questions of "will it happen again?" which argue for truth. But, what if it won't happen again, and what if you are insecure and you would have a tendency to obsess about it to the point that you would become miserable and would no longer look at her again, ultimately leading to a life of solitude and loneliness? There are even more mundane situations where a girl asks you if she is fat. I have a friend who has problems with an eating disorder. When she asks me i
Very very interesting Brit. I would say that in an ideal world I would answer yes to all your questions, yes the world should be told of any truths, yes the fat girl should know she's fat, yes spouses should know when their partner's cheating. In a real world situation, I don't know what I'd do to be honest, probably I would answer with so no's. OTOH, looking at this objectively, what you are arguing for, then, is lying on the condition that people will better off. As a religious person myself, this seems wrong, even if people are better off. Of course, I can see your point; this brings up an interesting memory for me. I remember reading a nonfictional book several years ago about a religious Dutch family during WWII that would hide Jews in their home during the Holocaust. One day several German officers stormed their home looking for the hidden Jews. One of the officers demanded the family show them were the Jews were hiding. A daughter of the family, being religiously inclined to never lie, came out and said, "Under the table". The Jews were in fact hidden through a secret door under the table. The officer looked under the table, then swiftly came by and slapped the girl and said, "Do you take us for fools?" Anyways, interesting idea to tell the truth if it's only for the better. The above story is certainly one case where lying probably would've saved lives (yet, telling the truth suprisingly did too). Interesting stuff.
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Personally I could care less. I like to listen to Queen because I like the music, what Freddy M did in his spare time was his business. I don't particularly like Arafat, but my opinion of him is not changed by his sexuality or cause of death. Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
Christian Graus wrote: Personally I could care less. I presume you mean that you could not care less, because otherwise that statement doesn't fit the logic of your argument.
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Christian Graus wrote: Personally I could care less. I presume you mean that you could not care less, because otherwise that statement doesn't fit the logic of your argument.
Erm..... *blush* Christian I have several lifelong friends that are New Yorkers but I have always gravitated toward the weirdo's. - Richard Stringer
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Very very interesting Brit. I would say that in an ideal world I would answer yes to all your questions, yes the world should be told of any truths, yes the fat girl should know she's fat, yes spouses should know when their partner's cheating. In a real world situation, I don't know what I'd do to be honest, probably I would answer with so no's. OTOH, looking at this objectively, what you are arguing for, then, is lying on the condition that people will better off. As a religious person myself, this seems wrong, even if people are better off. Of course, I can see your point; this brings up an interesting memory for me. I remember reading a nonfictional book several years ago about a religious Dutch family during WWII that would hide Jews in their home during the Holocaust. One day several German officers stormed their home looking for the hidden Jews. One of the officers demanded the family show them were the Jews were hiding. A daughter of the family, being religiously inclined to never lie, came out and said, "Under the table". The Jews were in fact hidden through a secret door under the table. The officer looked under the table, then swiftly came by and slapped the girl and said, "Do you take us for fools?" Anyways, interesting idea to tell the truth if it's only for the better. The above story is certainly one case where lying probably would've saved lives (yet, telling the truth suprisingly did too). Interesting stuff.
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Sometimes just not saying is better than being brutally honest. Omitting information that might be harmful wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Case in point, my Grandmother told me about her brother who had committed suicide. She found him and the note that he had left. My great-grandmother loved her son more than anything else, and my Grandmother took the note to prevent her Mother finding it. She did show it to my great-grandfather who told her she had done the right thing. She never regretted it and as far as my great-grandmother knew her son had died working on his car in the garage. There would have been no good from hurting my great-grandmother, and to this day no one else knows what was in that note. Some things are better left unknown. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. The French Government will not release the reasons for his death or condition. It is to be kept a family secret. It does not take an expert to figure out what killed this man. The indications over the weeks were that his immune system was defective and that he suffered from some kind of virus. All the symptoms pointed to Aids (HIV). This is the only disease that disgraces and humiliates a person, and the only one that someone would want kept secret. Now stories are[^] appearing[^] that suggest his illness is being kept under wraps to preserve his apparent good standing in the world community. One Whitehouse rep is quoted as saying, "We know he has a blood disease that is depressing his immune system. We know that he has suddenly dropped considerable weight -- possibly as much as one-third of all his body weight. We know that he is suffering intermittent mental dysfunction. What does this sound like?" It'll be interesting to see if the French government will continue to supress the truth and keep it a secret.
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Judah Himango wrote: It's been known for some time now among parts of the Israeli public that Arafat was bisexual, and now rumors are spreading over the net and on some newspapers that Arafat may have died of the AIDS virus. Argh! Lies, lies, damned lies, and religious propaganda! Non-heterosexual people doesn't get HIV/AIDS any easier than heterosexual. It's when people don't practice safe sex when it venereal diseases are transmitted. It doesn't matter if where you put your wiener, what you put on it before sex is what matters. If Arafat was straight, curved or gay, I have no clue. Frankly, I don't care nor is it any of my business. -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]
