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    JWood
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    Mental Health Screening for Kids[^] Psychiatric Times[^] Maybe it is just me, but does this sound like something out of one of Orwell's books? Forced mental health tests for teens and postpartum women? And this passed by a wide margin in congress. OK we had Columbine and some postpartum depressed women killing their infants. But that is a handful of crazies in a land of 300 million. The Bush Admin. are trampling on everyones rights and creating yet another expensive boondoogle program for their cronies.


    Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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      Mental Health Screening for Kids[^] Psychiatric Times[^] Maybe it is just me, but does this sound like something out of one of Orwell's books? Forced mental health tests for teens and postpartum women? And this passed by a wide margin in congress. OK we had Columbine and some postpartum depressed women killing their infants. But that is a handful of crazies in a land of 300 million. The Bush Admin. are trampling on everyones rights and creating yet another expensive boondoogle program for their cronies.


      Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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      From the first article: Illinois became the first state to jump on board. By near-unanimous votes in 2003, the General Assembly passed the $10 million Illinois Children's Mental Health Act creating a Children's Mental Health Partnership, which is expected to become a model for other states. Run! Run like the wind! Do not slow down and do not turn back! If it can be screwed up... Illinois will do it. If it can be corrupted... Illinois will do it. I'm betting the full $10 million was pocketed before the ink was even dry on the check. Nothing good can come from this. :( Yours truly, Mike Mullikin Lifelong Illinoisian "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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        Mental Health Screening for Kids[^] Psychiatric Times[^] Maybe it is just me, but does this sound like something out of one of Orwell's books? Forced mental health tests for teens and postpartum women? And this passed by a wide margin in congress. OK we had Columbine and some postpartum depressed women killing their infants. But that is a handful of crazies in a land of 300 million. The Bush Admin. are trampling on everyones rights and creating yet another expensive boondoogle program for their cronies.


        Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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        Know what that means......he's elected, he can do whatever he wants. This country will feel the effects of this administration for years to come. Discovery consist of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought -- Albert Szent-Györgyi Name the greatest of all the inventors: accident --Mark Twain

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          Know what that means......he's elected, he can do whatever he wants. This country will feel the effects of this administration for years to come. Discovery consist of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought -- Albert Szent-Györgyi Name the greatest of all the inventors: accident --Mark Twain

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          Stan Shannon
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          JimRivera wrote: Know what that means......he's elected, he can do whatever he wants. This country will feel the effects of this administration for years to come. Well, he's getting lefty types to agree with Phyllis Schlafly on a notorius right wing web site - that can't be all bad. :-D

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            JimRivera wrote: Know what that means......he's elected, he can do whatever he wants. This country will feel the effects of this administration for years to come. Well, he's getting lefty types to agree with Phyllis Schlafly on a notorius right wing web site - that can't be all bad. :-D

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            left or right this excerpt is pretty sad: Illinois became the first state to jump on board. By near-unanimous votes in 2003, the General Assembly passed the $10 million Illinois Children's Mental Health Act creating a Children's Mental Health Partnership, which is expected to become a model for other states. The partnership's plan, released July 16, calls for periodic social and emotional developmental examinations to be administered to all children, and for all women to be interrogated for depression during pregnancy and up to a year postpartum. When the partnership showcased this plan with five public hearings stacked with bureaucrats and social service workers, a political tempest erupted, with state legislators saying they had no idea this was what they had voted for. Politicians should learn to read what they are voting for, its the least they can do. I have said before that you cannot depend on politicians to read every bill, but they should read a few of them just to honor the paycheck you know. Discovery consist of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought -- Albert Szent-Györgyi Name the greatest of all the inventors: accident --Mark Twain

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              Mental Health Screening for Kids[^] Psychiatric Times[^] Maybe it is just me, but does this sound like something out of one of Orwell's books? Forced mental health tests for teens and postpartum women? And this passed by a wide margin in congress. OK we had Columbine and some postpartum depressed women killing their infants. But that is a handful of crazies in a land of 300 million. The Bush Admin. are trampling on everyones rights and creating yet another expensive boondoogle program for their cronies.


              Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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              JWood wrote: The Bush Admin. are trampling on everyones rights and creating yet another expensive boondoogle program for their cronies. Welp, now I better understand why we are in such desperate need of the No Child Left Behind act. Simple civics seems to esacpe so many during their upbringing Seriously though, blaming President Bush for the inane acts of Congress is like blaming Columbine on Michael Moore. Best, Jerry

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                Mental Health Screening for Kids[^] Psychiatric Times[^] Maybe it is just me, but does this sound like something out of one of Orwell's books? Forced mental health tests for teens and postpartum women? And this passed by a wide margin in congress. OK we had Columbine and some postpartum depressed women killing their infants. But that is a handful of crazies in a land of 300 million. The Bush Admin. are trampling on everyones rights and creating yet another expensive boondoogle program for their cronies.


                Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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                So Bush now runs Illinois? The essential of the program seems like it comes naturally from extending health care to everyone. A follow-up visit for new mothers isn't Orwellian, and treating mental health along with physical health during wellness visits isn't outrageous. I don't think the government should have anything to do with it, and the mental problems are probably better fixed by promoting family life and better child care rather than more shrinks and drugs, but I don't think the initiative, which is obviously going through growing pains anyway, is a harbinger of the death of our freedoms. BW The Biggest Loser


                "Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
                Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
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                  So Bush now runs Illinois? The essential of the program seems like it comes naturally from extending health care to everyone. A follow-up visit for new mothers isn't Orwellian, and treating mental health along with physical health during wellness visits isn't outrageous. I don't think the government should have anything to do with it, and the mental problems are probably better fixed by promoting family life and better child care rather than more shrinks and drugs, but I don't think the initiative, which is obviously going through growing pains anyway, is a harbinger of the death of our freedoms. BW The Biggest Loser


                  "Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
                  Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
                  -The Stoves

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                  brianwelsch wrote: So Bush now runs Illinois? That's the beauty of it. Richard Daley (longtime Democratic mayor of Chicago) really runs Illinois. He is supported by the entrenched HIGHLY Democratic Cook County board and the enormously Democratic Chicago city alderman. Next, we have a Democratic state governor and Democratic controlled state house and senate. Illinois was a solid Gore win and a solid Kerry win. For Illinois this isn't about which side of the aisle anyone sits, it's about another way to steal money from the taxpayers and line the pockets of Daley's friends and cronies. "Reality is what refuses to go away when I stop believing in it." Philip K. Dick

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                    So Bush now runs Illinois? The essential of the program seems like it comes naturally from extending health care to everyone. A follow-up visit for new mothers isn't Orwellian, and treating mental health along with physical health during wellness visits isn't outrageous. I don't think the government should have anything to do with it, and the mental problems are probably better fixed by promoting family life and better child care rather than more shrinks and drugs, but I don't think the initiative, which is obviously going through growing pains anyway, is a harbinger of the death of our freedoms. BW The Biggest Loser


                    "Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
                    Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
                    -The Stoves

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                    These people were following recommendation from another Orwellian named commission President's Freedom Commission on Mental Health[^] Some issues are not left vs. right. This may be one of those issue which are the people against Democratic and Republican authoritarianism.


                    Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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                      Mental Health Screening for Kids[^] Psychiatric Times[^] Maybe it is just me, but does this sound like something out of one of Orwell's books? Forced mental health tests for teens and postpartum women? And this passed by a wide margin in congress. OK we had Columbine and some postpartum depressed women killing their infants. But that is a handful of crazies in a land of 300 million. The Bush Admin. are trampling on everyones rights and creating yet another expensive boondoogle program for their cronies.


                      Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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                      How about some mental health screening for politicians -- that's something I can get behind. :laugh:

                      I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts

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                        Mental Health Screening for Kids[^] Psychiatric Times[^] Maybe it is just me, but does this sound like something out of one of Orwell's books? Forced mental health tests for teens and postpartum women? And this passed by a wide margin in congress. OK we had Columbine and some postpartum depressed women killing their infants. But that is a handful of crazies in a land of 300 million. The Bush Admin. are trampling on everyones rights and creating yet another expensive boondoogle program for their cronies.


                        Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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                        I remember as a kid growing up being told how the communists in the Soviet Union take children away from their homes and dictate how parents raise their children, etc. But it appears it is the US that seems to be becoming the world leader in such issues. (obviously an exageration on my part). But it drives me nuts when I read such stuff and worse when I meet some moron who believes it is the right thing to do. On a lighter side.... I wonder if Bush would pass the test... LMAO

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                          These people were following recommendation from another Orwellian named commission President's Freedom Commission on Mental Health[^] Some issues are not left vs. right. This may be one of those issue which are the people against Democratic and Republican authoritarianism.


                          Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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                          JWood wrote: These people were following recommendation from another Orwellian named commission I know, I read the article too. I made no mention of left vs. right. I merely questioned your anti-Bush comment briefly. BW The Biggest Loser


                          "Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
                          Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
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                            These people were following recommendation from another Orwellian named commission President's Freedom Commission on Mental Health[^] Some issues are not left vs. right. This may be one of those issue which are the people against Democratic and Republican authoritarianism.


                            Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer

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                            President's Freedom Commission on Mental Health. Is it just me, or is there anyone else who finds an eerie resemblance to names like 'Peoples Rightfull Commission on Cultural Values'. I mean, what exactly does the 'Freedom' do in that name? "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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                              President's Freedom Commission on Mental Health. Is it just me, or is there anyone else who finds an eerie resemblance to names like 'Peoples Rightfull Commission on Cultural Values'. I mean, what exactly does the 'Freedom' do in that name? "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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                              It's simply the catch phrase of the day. I wouldn't read too much into it. BW The Biggest Loser


                              "Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
                              Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
                              -The Stoves

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