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  • D Doug Goulden

    Got this link today about that recent submarine accident. Imagine traveling at 30 knots 500 feet under water and slamming into an uncharter mountain. These poor SOB's never saw it coming, thank God we didn't lose the sub itself. Kind of interesting discussion about mapping the ocean bottom considering the recent landing on Titan's surface yesterday. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/15/national/15submarine.html?oref=login&th[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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    I understand a submarine doesn't use its sonars, but people in there are able to hear a whale farting 500km away. It's incredible such an obstacle doesn't generate noise in water. Bah...to err is human, right?


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      Got this link today about that recent submarine accident. Imagine traveling at 30 knots 500 feet under water and slamming into an uncharter mountain. These poor SOB's never saw it coming, thank God we didn't lose the sub itself. Kind of interesting discussion about mapping the ocean bottom considering the recent landing on Titan's surface yesterday. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/15/national/15submarine.html?oref=login&th[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      Doug Goulden wrote: Imagine traveling at 30 knots 500 feet under water and slamming into an uncharter mountain. *BONK*? :) -- Komm tu mir langsam weh, leg mir die Ketten an und zieh die Knoten fest, damit ich lachen kann I blog too now[^]

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      • D Doug Goulden

        Got this link today about that recent submarine accident. Imagine traveling at 30 knots 500 feet under water and slamming into an uncharter mountain. These poor SOB's never saw it coming, thank God we didn't lose the sub itself. Kind of interesting discussion about mapping the ocean bottom considering the recent landing on Titan's surface yesterday. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/15/national/15submarine.html?oref=login&th[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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        It's amazing that the Sub survived, that sounds like one hell of an accident. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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          I understand a submarine doesn't use its sonars, but people in there are able to hear a whale farting 500km away. It's incredible such an obstacle doesn't generate noise in water. Bah...to err is human, right?


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          Doug Goulden
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          K(arl) wrote: It's incredible such an obstacle doesn't generate noise in water. Unfortunately only when you hit it..... K(arl) wrote: Bah...to err is human, right? Thats an understatement. This actually has happened before, but the submarine wasn't doing 30 knots at the time. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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            It's amazing that the Sub survived, that sounds like one hell of an accident. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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            Doug Goulden
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            They engineer the hell out of them when they are built, the one I was stationed on had a hull that was around 4 inches thick. The pressure on the hull itself is enourmous just from being submerged, about 44 psi for every 100 foot change in depth. The hull actually compresses significantly as you go deeper, enough so that the decks ride suspended on rails to allow the hull to move. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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            • D Doug Goulden

              They engineer the hell out of them when they are built, the one I was stationed on had a hull that was around 4 inches thick. The pressure on the hull itself is enourmous just from being submerged, about 44 psi for every 100 foot change in depth. The hull actually compresses significantly as you go deeper, enough so that the decks ride suspended on rails to allow the hull to move. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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              Doug Goulden wrote: The hull actually compresses significantly as you go deeper, enough so that the decks ride suspended on rails to allow the hull to move. Wow, I never knew that! Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                Doug Goulden wrote: The hull actually compresses significantly as you go deeper, enough so that the decks ride suspended on rails to allow the hull to move. Wow, I never knew that! Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                Doug Goulden
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                Yeah, you actually lubricate what they call the "deck clips" so they can move freely when the submarine changes depth. If you don't then the hull makes popping noises which an enemy vessel can hear with their sonar (and you can actually hear in the boat). Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                • D Doug Goulden

                  K(arl) wrote: It's incredible such an obstacle doesn't generate noise in water. Unfortunately only when you hit it..... K(arl) wrote: Bah...to err is human, right? Thats an understatement. This actually has happened before, but the submarine wasn't doing 30 knots at the time. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                  KaRl
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                  "Shit happens". I suppose an ex-captain has to find a civilian job now. At least another nuclear reactor wasn't lost in the sea...


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                  • K KaRl

                    "Shit happens". I suppose an ex-captain has to find a civilian job now. At least another nuclear reactor wasn't lost in the sea...


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                    Doug Goulden
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                    K(arl) wrote: At least another nuclear reactor wasn't lost in the sea... Saves on having to do all those radialogy surveys for forever.... ;) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                    • D Doug Goulden

                      Got this link today about that recent submarine accident. Imagine traveling at 30 knots 500 feet under water and slamming into an uncharter mountain. These poor SOB's never saw it coming, thank God we didn't lose the sub itself. Kind of interesting discussion about mapping the ocean bottom considering the recent landing on Titan's surface yesterday. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/15/national/15submarine.html?oref=login&th[^] Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                      FWIW-- It is my understanding that this sub was going flank speed. Flank speed for this class of sub is classified but is widely held to be greater than 30 knots. 30 knots is the number the Navy always gives for flank speed for all classified craft speeds. Jerry He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com The Recipe Project

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