Weapons and China
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Good news: It looks as though the European Union will postpone lifting its embargo on arms exports to China, at least until next year. This is the right move.[^] I mostly agree with this guy. Selling weapons to a dictatorship is not a smart move to improve human rights. Feck this business.
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Good news: It looks as though the European Union will postpone lifting its embargo on arms exports to China, at least until next year. This is the right move.[^] I mostly agree with this guy. Selling weapons to a dictatorship is not a smart move to improve human rights. Feck this business.
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K(arl) wrote: Selling weapons to a dictatorship is not a smart move to improve human rights. Damn you anti-Americans! :laugh:
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Good news: It looks as though the European Union will postpone lifting its embargo on arms exports to China, at least until next year. This is the right move.[^] I mostly agree with this guy. Selling weapons to a dictatorship is not a smart move to improve human rights. Feck this business.
Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!
K(arl) wrote: Selling weapons to a dictatorship is not a smart move to improve human rights. How about just "selling weapons is not a smart move to improve human rights." It's disgusting that people make money on selling weapons. Yeah, yeah, I know, "how would I defend myself against all the badies in the world" argument. That may be justification for weapon sales. It's still disgusting that there are people and governments that make a profit from this. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
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K(arl) wrote: Selling weapons to a dictatorship is not a smart move to improve human rights. Damn you anti-Americans! :laugh:
:-D
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K(arl) wrote: Selling weapons to a dictatorship is not a smart move to improve human rights. How about just "selling weapons is not a smart move to improve human rights." It's disgusting that people make money on selling weapons. Yeah, yeah, I know, "how would I defend myself against all the badies in the world" argument. That may be justification for weapon sales. It's still disgusting that there are people and governments that make a profit from this. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Marc Clifton wrote: It's still disgusting that there are people and governments that make a profit from this. They're in the same leauge as Nike, Reebok, <insert name of company here>. Children make good slaves! :mad: And before I get "well at least the kids are kept away from prostitution!" thrown in my face, it's still slavery*. Nobody should have to choose between slavery and prostitution. What if these companies cut 1% from their profits (which is most likely a huge sum of money!), and contributed back to the community which they're currently raping? But no, that would be polluting their labor force, wouldn't it? If you make sure they're miserable and dirt poor, they'll always work for practically nothing. * Technically it's not slavery, because they're given a wage. But the wage barely cover food for the day. Enough to ensure that they survive, for the same reason slaves of the 19th century were fed. -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. My name in Korean is 요르겐. I blog too now[^]
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Good news: It looks as though the European Union will postpone lifting its embargo on arms exports to China, at least until next year. This is the right move.[^] I mostly agree with this guy. Selling weapons to a dictatorship is not a smart move to improve human rights. Feck this business.
Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!
And the Chinese want to buy them from Europe? Riiiiiiigggghhhhht!:laugh: He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org
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And the Chinese want to buy them from Europe? Riiiiiiigggghhhhht!:laugh: He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org
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Most of the best weapons at least originated from Europe - we've been killing each other for longer than the Americans have.
Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Audioscrobbler :: flikrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
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Most of the best weapons at least originated from Europe - we've been killing each other for longer than the Americans have.
Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Audioscrobbler :: flikrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
David Wulff wrote: Most of the best weapons at least originated from Europe - we've been killing each other for longer than the Americans have. I was going to post the same thing. When it comes to inventing efficent ways of killing people, the European countries are second to non. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Most of the best weapons at least originated from Europe - we've been killing each other for longer than the Americans have.
Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Audioscrobbler :: flikrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
So true. I don't know if I must :-D || :sigh:
Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!
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And the Chinese want to buy them from Europe? Riiiiiiigggghhhhht!:laugh: He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org
As Karl says, so does everyone. Unfortunately we are so busy selling equipment to our allies (and enemies) that we can't afford to give it to our own troups. I have more British Army issue clothing and equipment in my wardrobe than some of our troups have on the ground in Iraq. It's very, very sad really.
Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Audioscrobbler :: flikrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
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Good news: It looks as though the European Union will postpone lifting its embargo on arms exports to China, at least until next year. This is the right move.[^] I mostly agree with this guy. Selling weapons to a dictatorship is not a smart move to improve human rights. Feck this business.
Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!
We should not sell weapons to China - besides the obvious that they are still a communist dictatorship, they will most likely pull any equipment they get their hands on and start mass producing it themselves.
Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right. - Schopenhauer
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And the Chinese want to buy them from Europe? Riiiiiiigggghhhhht!:laugh: He said this was like painstakingly assembling the first layer of a house of cards, then boasting that the next 15,000 layers were a mere formality.--The Code Book, pp. 331 Toasty0.com DotNetGroup.org
If I remember correctly, France is the world's 3rd largest arms dealer. (They might've surpassed Russia to become #2, I'm not sure. And the US is the top arms dealer.) Germany is in the top 10. I'm sure that Europe has a substantial place in the arms market once you combine the european nations together. (Arms sales in millions of dollars.)
1994 1997 2001United States $14,771 7,765 12,088
Russia 4,523 3,912 5,800
France 10,356 5,253 2,900
China 952 1,453 600
United Kingdom 833 1,118 400
Germany 1,000http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002_09/armtransfers_sept02.asp[^] ----------------------------------------------------- Empires Of Steel[^] It was very nice of our loving Designer to design an immune system to protect us from the deadly diseases He designed.
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As Karl says, so does everyone. Unfortunately we are so busy selling equipment to our allies (and enemies) that we can't afford to give it to our own troups. I have more British Army issue clothing and equipment in my wardrobe than some of our troups have on the ground in Iraq. It's very, very sad really.
Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Audioscrobbler :: flikrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
David Wulff wrote: I have more British Army issue clothing and equipment in my wardrobe than some of our troups have Are you preparing for war, young man?? -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. My name in Korean is 요르겐. I blog too now[^]
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David Wulff wrote: I have more British Army issue clothing and equipment in my wardrobe than some of our troups have Are you preparing for war, young man?? -- My name in Katakana is ヨルゲン. My name in German is Jörgen. My name in Mandarin/Kanji is 乔尔根 西格瓦德森. My name in Korean is 요르겐. I blog too now[^]
I used to be a Boy Scout, they taught me to "be prepared". ;)
Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Audioscrobbler :: flikrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
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I used to be a Boy Scout, they taught me to "be prepared". ;)
Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
Audioscrobbler :: flikrDie Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
Don't think the absence of the word "No" went unnoticed, Mr. Wulff. :suss: BW
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