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    ColinDavies
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    My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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      My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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      DavidNohejl
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      If you hate PDF, what format do you use for documents? p.s I am LaTeX hater :-O David Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)
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        If you hate PDF, what format do you use for documents? p.s I am LaTeX hater :-O David Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)
        David's thoughts / dnhsoftware.org / MyHTMLTidy

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        ColinDavies
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        Generally I try to use RTF Although it doesn't have a lot of features. PDF seems to take so long to load. Also the number of crashes I have had with PDF in the last few days is ridiculous. I'm sure I can't have the OCX running in IE at the same time as the standalone reader. But other things seem to make it crash. Also I have never seen it scroll correctly, it always jumps around the place. I think I could whinge a lot more about PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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          My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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          David Wulff
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          If we're talking software then my PHOTD is Sony's SonicStage software. I need it to interface with my MiniDisc deck to record music. The hardware is great but the software is so slow, clunky and unreliable that it blows worse than the local whore. Hardware companies should outsource their software development. My non-software PHOTD is mobile phone mast protestors. They whine about the mobile signals killing their children and then turn around and bitch about not being able to get a good phone signal. I'd be tempted to sell my own roofspace to house a mast if it wasn't right next door to a primary school. The protestors would burn my house down. I love PDF. I keep a printed version of the Acrobat User Manual under my pillow at night so I can stroke it to get to sleep. For sending print around it is great, but it is vastly over-used on the web. HTML is perfectly adequate for most of it's uses.


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            If we're talking software then my PHOTD is Sony's SonicStage software. I need it to interface with my MiniDisc deck to record music. The hardware is great but the software is so slow, clunky and unreliable that it blows worse than the local whore. Hardware companies should outsource their software development. My non-software PHOTD is mobile phone mast protestors. They whine about the mobile signals killing their children and then turn around and bitch about not being able to get a good phone signal. I'd be tempted to sell my own roofspace to house a mast if it wasn't right next door to a primary school. The protestors would burn my house down. I love PDF. I keep a printed version of the Acrobat User Manual under my pillow at night so I can stroke it to get to sleep. For sending print around it is great, but it is vastly over-used on the web. HTML is perfectly adequate for most of it's uses.


            Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
            Audioscrobbler :: flickr

            Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen

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            David Wulff wrote: I love PDF. I keep a printed version of the Acrobat User Manual under my pillow at night so I can stroke it to get to sleep. I might burn your house down now. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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              My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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              Ryan Roberts
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              Rejoice, for soonish we will have Metro[^] - looks like it might be a sort of XAML EMF type thing. Ryan

              O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)

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                David Wulff wrote: I love PDF. I keep a printed version of the Acrobat User Manual under my pillow at night so I can stroke it to get to sleep. I might burn your house down now. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                peterchen
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                Let me do this... :cool:


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                  My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                  Stan Shannon
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                  At the moment it is that asshole testing my code. :mad: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                    My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                    I don't so much as have a problem with PDF as Adobe's software. It is so slow to start up. I tried a 30 day trial of Adobe Photoshop elements and I was shocked as how long it takes to start loading in all those plugins. Why do all that on start up - I don't use most of them in any single session so why not load them on first use. Acrobat is just as bad - if not worse considering its is a much smaller application.


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                      My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                      Shaving, and razors, and the fact that it simply never work as well as advertised. I sure that Mr Gillet or Mr Schick never use their own products.


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                        I don't so much as have a problem with PDF as Adobe's software. It is so slow to start up. I tried a 30 day trial of Adobe Photoshop elements and I was shocked as how long it takes to start loading in all those plugins. Why do all that on start up - I don't use most of them in any single session so why not load them on first use. Acrobat is just as bad - if not worse considering its is a much smaller application.


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                        Ryan Roberts
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                        Never mind the comedy modal dialogs when you use it as a component. Though I have seen worse recently - Alcatel's god awful desktop telephone agent software pops up the informative message "RegOpenKeyEx returns 6" whenever I create a damn instance of it. Ryan

                        O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)

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                          Generally I try to use RTF Although it doesn't have a lot of features. PDF seems to take so long to load. Also the number of crashes I have had with PDF in the last few days is ridiculous. I'm sure I can't have the OCX running in IE at the same time as the standalone reader. But other things seem to make it crash. Also I have never seen it scroll correctly, it always jumps around the place. I think I could whinge a lot more about PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                          If your beef with PDF is Adobe Acrobat's load time, then your beef is with Adobe Acrobat, not the PDF format. In general, I think PDF is great. It's totally multi-platform, you don't depend on people having MS Office installed, and with a good PDF reader, it takes a mere second to read. Have I mentioned I love my Macs with native PDF support? Oh, and my peeve is people sending me attachments for personal stuff (i.e. at home) in an MS Office format. I happen to love LaTeX for writing documents and have no need for Office. :)

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                            Shaving, and razors, and the fact that it simply never work as well as advertised. I sure that Mr Gillet or Mr Schick never use their own products.


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                            Maximilien wrote: Shaving, and razors try this[^] best I've ever used, blades costly but last forever. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.

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                              Maximilien wrote: Shaving, and razors try this[^] best I've ever used, blades costly but last forever. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.

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                              Gary Kirkham
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                              ditto Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                                My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                                My pet hate for today is the guy who sits about three desks away from me. I have only worked here for a month and approached him for the first time last week to ask a question. I was told that he is very difficult and I should be careful what I say to him but he is the only person who knows about what I am working on. I figure we both work here, why should I not ask him a question? If he is difficult and unapproachable they should get rid of him. So anyway I asked my question and I could tell he was not really listening to me. He assumed I was asking a silly question and told me to 'read the fuc&ing manual'. I have never been sworn at by a colleague before. When I repeated my question he realised that is was a sensible question. Today I let the toilet door slam in his face. I may wait till he goes home, get his desk phone, rub it on my sweaty smelly bits and call him in the morning to ask if he can smell something musty.

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                                  Generally I try to use RTF Although it doesn't have a lot of features. PDF seems to take so long to load. Also the number of crashes I have had with PDF in the last few days is ridiculous. I'm sure I can't have the OCX running in IE at the same time as the standalone reader. But other things seem to make it crash. Also I have never seen it scroll correctly, it always jumps around the place. I think I could whinge a lot more about PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                                  Bert Otherside82 Derijckere
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                                  The slow start-up time with Acrobat Reader is mainly because of all the plugins it loads at startup. Here is a simple trick to stop it from loading the plugins at start-up, but only when needed: Under the Acrobat Reader 6.0\Reader folder is a plugins folder that contains all the plugins that are loaded at startup. But there is also an Optional folder that is empty by default. If you move all files from the plugins folder to this Optional folder, Acrobat Reader will no longer load all the plugins at startup but only when needed. This makes the startup a lot faster and you don't loose any functionality of the plugins. I've seen the startup time on one of my machines go from 7-10 seconds to under 1 second (on a P4 1.8Ghz with 256Mb RAM)

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                                    My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                                    Chris Losinger
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                                    ColinDavies wrote: What's yours? Intelligent Design Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                      My Pet Hate Of The Day is PDF What's yours? - I hate PDF for so many reasons. Maybe there is a PDF haters community I can join somewhere. Also it makes me angry that Macromedia's products will soon head the way of PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                                      JWood
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                                      On that topic is anyone that sends documents in any formatted in anything that requires a software that costs anything. I get hopping mad when they send documents and even demand them in return Word, WordPerfect AMiPro etc. format. PDF I can see would be a problem if they demanded them and they take alot longer to load than HTML.

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                                        ColinDavies wrote: What's yours? Intelligent Design Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                        73Zeppelin
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                                        Geez, who the hell voted you a 1? :rolleyes: Must have been a zealot. :->

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                                          Generally I try to use RTF Although it doesn't have a lot of features. PDF seems to take so long to load. Also the number of crashes I have had with PDF in the last few days is ridiculous. I'm sure I can't have the OCX running in IE at the same time as the standalone reader. But other things seem to make it crash. Also I have never seen it scroll correctly, it always jumps around the place. I think I could whinge a lot more about PDF. Regardz Colin J Davies The most LinkedIn CPian (that I know of anyhow) :-)

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                                          I read an article in a magazine a few months ago (I think PC Magazine) that tells you how to speed up your Adobe app. there's a folder called plug_ins or something. you make a copy of that, then delete all except 3 of those files in there. the DLL loading on startup is what makes it take so long to open. If you just wanna read the pdf and delete all except those 3 necessary dll's, Adobe opens up 100 times faster (well maybe not '100', but MUCH faster) I don't remember what the 3 files are you need to keep, but you can probably google it My articles www.stillwaterexpress.com BlackDice

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