Mr. Galloway Goes to Washington
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"As a matter of fact I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times that (Secretary of Defense) Donald Rumsfeld met him," said the recently reelected British parliamentarian. "The difference is that Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell him guns."[^] I don't know if Mr Galloway is guilty or not, sincere or not, but he knows for sure how to use rhetoric!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4553601.stm#[^] There is a link to the video of the tesemony in full. Click the Video link at the top right, then from that video link of the report is another link to the full testemony.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4553601.stm#[^] There is a link to the video of the tesemony in full. Click the Video link at the top right, then from that video link of the report is another link to the full testemony.
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I watched the full 40 minute video last night - it was very amusing. You couldn't write a performance like that. The US senators caught on towards the end though, but it was still fun to watch.
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I think he's an opportunistic pratt at times but also had some valid points about this. Why didn't they talk to the people whose names have been paraded like this first ? The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: Why didn't they talk to the people whose names have been paraded like this first Perhaps because it is not a trial but a political show?
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Trollslayer wrote: Why didn't they talk to the people whose names have been paraded like this first Perhaps because it is not a trial but a political show?
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K(arl) wrote: Perhaps because it is not a trial but a political show? it is neither. it is a Senate investigation which are primarily done through testimony and inspection of paper trails. Galloway failed. the leader of this particular Senate investigation is a former prosecuter and was merely attempting to get Galloway's statements on the record. if can later be proven that Galloway lied (perjury) he can be tried and jailed if he's ever foolish enough to plant a foot on US soil. The political show came from Galloway, not the senator. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
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"As a matter of fact I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times that (Secretary of Defense) Donald Rumsfeld met him," said the recently reelected British parliamentarian. "The difference is that Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell him guns."[^] I don't know if Mr Galloway is guilty or not, sincere or not, but he knows for sure how to use rhetoric!
Fold with us! The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless.
The reporter has Coleman and Galloway's names mixed up loads of times in that report. It was quite confusing to read.
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K(arl) wrote: Perhaps because it is not a trial but a political show? it is neither. it is a Senate investigation which are primarily done through testimony and inspection of paper trails. Galloway failed. the leader of this particular Senate investigation is a former prosecuter and was merely attempting to get Galloway's statements on the record. if can later be proven that Galloway lied (perjury) he can be tried and jailed if he's ever foolish enough to plant a foot on US soil. The political show came from Galloway, not the senator. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
Mike Gaskey wrote: The political show came from Galloway Definitively, but this Senate Investigation is accusing people without showing any evidence. As long as they don't, isn't that a show rather than a serious investigation? Mike Gaskey wrote: he can be tried and jailed if he's ever foolish enough to plant a foot on US soil. Even if he isn't a US citizen? :confused:
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Mike Gaskey wrote: The political show came from Galloway Definitively, but this Senate Investigation is accusing people without showing any evidence. As long as they don't, isn't that a show rather than a serious investigation? Mike Gaskey wrote: he can be tried and jailed if he's ever foolish enough to plant a foot on US soil. Even if he isn't a US citizen? :confused:
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I'm sure Mr Blair would love to extradite his old socialist pal Mr Galloway. He committed the one unforgivable sin in the Labour party - betraying the Labour party. Ryan
O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)
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Mike Gaskey wrote: The political show came from Galloway Definitively, but this Senate Investigation is accusing people without showing any evidence. As long as they don't, isn't that a show rather than a serious investigation? Mike Gaskey wrote: he can be tried and jailed if he's ever foolish enough to plant a foot on US soil. Even if he isn't a US citizen? :confused:
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K(arl) wrote: but this Senate Investigation is accusing people without showing any evidence depends on your view. they have a paper trail that shows money moving from Iraqi oil through a Galloway friend/associate (his best man at Galloway's wedding, I believe) to Galloway's political campaign war chest (campaign finances). They also have testimony from imprisoned leaders. While you may not find either credible I would wager a year's salary that this particular senator (Coleman) is honest and would not invent evidence. K(arl) wrote: Even if he isn't a US citizen? Why not? a crime is a crime and perjury (lying under oath) is a crime. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
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"As a matter of fact I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times that (Secretary of Defense) Donald Rumsfeld met him," said the recently reelected British parliamentarian. "The difference is that Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell him guns."[^] I don't know if Mr Galloway is guilty or not, sincere or not, but he knows for sure how to use rhetoric!
Fold with us! The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless.
Man, that guy was great! You Brits have some gutsy politicians. Too bad we can't elect him for President.
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K(arl) wrote: but this Senate Investigation is accusing people without showing any evidence depends on your view. they have a paper trail that shows money moving from Iraqi oil through a Galloway friend/associate (his best man at Galloway's wedding, I believe) to Galloway's political campaign war chest (campaign finances). They also have testimony from imprisoned leaders. While you may not find either credible I would wager a year's salary that this particular senator (Coleman) is honest and would not invent evidence. K(arl) wrote: Even if he isn't a US citizen? Why not? a crime is a crime and perjury (lying under oath) is a crime. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
Mike Gaskey wrote: they have a paper trail that shows money moving from Iraqi oil through a Galloway friend/associate The 'paper trail' wasn't credible enough to prevent him winning his libel case: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4061165.stm[^]
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Mike Gaskey wrote: they have a paper trail that shows money moving from Iraqi oil through a Galloway friend/associate The 'paper trail' wasn't credible enough to prevent him winning his libel case: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4061165.stm[^]
Dan Bennett wrote: The 'paper trail' wasn't credible enough to prevent him winning his libel case I suggest he bring suit here. I would love the theater. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
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Dan Bennett wrote: The 'paper trail' wasn't credible enough to prevent him winning his libel case I suggest he bring suit here. I would love the theater. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
He does have a tendency to bring libel cases - so you never know. It would be quite a show.
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"As a matter of fact I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times that (Secretary of Defense) Donald Rumsfeld met him," said the recently reelected British parliamentarian. "The difference is that Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell him guns."[^] I don't know if Mr Galloway is guilty or not, sincere or not, but he knows for sure how to use rhetoric!
Fold with us! The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless.
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I don't know anything about this politician, but he certainly makes a strong case. On a purely debate oriented perspective, Galloway stepped on the prosecuting Senator's balls. OTOH, not difficult to do when their hanging out there in the wind.
JWood wrote: Galloway stepped on the prosecuting Senator's balls get it right if you're going to comment. Senators don't prosecute, they investigate. the leader of this particular Senate investigation is a former prosecuter and was merely attempting to get Galloway's statements on the record. if can later be proven that Galloway lied (perjury) he can be tried and jailed if he's ever foolish enough to plant a foot on US soil. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
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JWood wrote: Galloway stepped on the prosecuting Senator's balls get it right if you're going to comment. Senators don't prosecute, they investigate. the leader of this particular Senate investigation is a former prosecuter and was merely attempting to get Galloway's statements on the record. if can later be proven that Galloway lied (perjury) he can be tried and jailed if he's ever foolish enough to plant a foot on US soil. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
I didn't hear anything that hasn't been said a thousand times before, mostly by reasonable people. To wit: 1) The documents were poorly made forgeries, 2) Everyone, including - and in this case especially - the Americans were finding ways around the sanctions, you just have to look up the quantities that were flowing out - a fool could tell you that. 3) There have been strong irregularities involving billions of dollars in oil moneys in occupied Iraq 4) Contractors in Iraq, many of them well used to suckling on the taxpayer have been having a field day, vastly overcharging everyone. If you call pointing to the obvious, perjury, well then there falls whatever is left of American judicial fairness, to be replaced with banana republic kangeroo courts. As to his guilt or innocence, well if he can find a fair court, I'll let that decide. To me it looks like he is just a guy that was caught in the crosshairs of the Neocons for double duty as scapegoat and misdirection of the day.
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I didn't hear anything that hasn't been said a thousand times before, mostly by reasonable people. To wit: 1) The documents were poorly made forgeries, 2) Everyone, including - and in this case especially - the Americans were finding ways around the sanctions, you just have to look up the quantities that were flowing out - a fool could tell you that. 3) There have been strong irregularities involving billions of dollars in oil moneys in occupied Iraq 4) Contractors in Iraq, many of them well used to suckling on the taxpayer have been having a field day, vastly overcharging everyone. If you call pointing to the obvious, perjury, well then there falls whatever is left of American judicial fairness, to be replaced with banana republic kangeroo courts. As to his guilt or innocence, well if he can find a fair court, I'll let that decide. To me it looks like he is just a guy that was caught in the crosshairs of the Neocons for double duty as scapegoat and misdirection of the day.
JWood wrote: If you call pointing to the obvious, perjury, well then there falls whatever is left of American judicial fairness, to be replaced with banana republic kangeroo courts. As to his guilt or innocence, well if he can find a fair court, I'll let that decide. To me it looks like he is just a guy that was caught in the crosshairs of the Neocons for double duty as scapegoat and misdirection of the day. he was neither on trial nor in a court, he is the subject of an investigtaion being conducted in the Senate specifically because the UN has covered up a scandal - end of sentence. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
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I'm sure Mr Blair would love to extradite his old socialist pal Mr Galloway. He committed the one unforgivable sin in the Labour party - betraying the Labour party. Ryan
O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)
I thought Blair was the one who betrayed the Labour Party... :rolleyes:
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JWood wrote: If you call pointing to the obvious, perjury, well then there falls whatever is left of American judicial fairness, to be replaced with banana republic kangeroo courts. As to his guilt or innocence, well if he can find a fair court, I'll let that decide. To me it looks like he is just a guy that was caught in the crosshairs of the Neocons for double duty as scapegoat and misdirection of the day. he was neither on trial nor in a court, he is the subject of an investigtaion being conducted in the Senate specifically because the UN has covered up a scandal - end of sentence. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
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Well looks like they picked the wrong Scotsman to investigate. Video - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2005/05/17/VI2005051700710.html[^]
JWood wrote: Well looks like they picked the wrong Scotsman to investigate. I watched it live. the guy is an ass. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
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JWood wrote: If you call pointing to the obvious, perjury, well then there falls whatever is left of American judicial fairness, to be replaced with banana republic kangeroo courts. As to his guilt or innocence, well if he can find a fair court, I'll let that decide. To me it looks like he is just a guy that was caught in the crosshairs of the Neocons for double duty as scapegoat and misdirection of the day. he was neither on trial nor in a court, he is the subject of an investigtaion being conducted in the Senate specifically because the UN has covered up a scandal - end of sentence. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
Mike Gaskey wrote: because the UN has covered up a scandal :wtf:! There is an on-going inquiry[^], remember? It might be slow, it might be a way to get a cover, but let's wait for the results before shooting.
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