I acted purely in the name of my religion
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How many Muslims, do you think, feel the same?
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sociopath (soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-uh-path) Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others. (Compare psychopath.) Does sociopath really fit as a description? He felt he was doing something for the religion, and ultimately for his brethren. It doesn't sound like he believes it was a personal need. Good music: In my rosary[^]
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So says he.[^] Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
I never saw the movie, but when people start linking social issues like women abuse with religion there will always be a nut case who will show an extreme response. Couple of interesting things to note about Islam It is the only religion where women have given equal rights and a higher social stature. The Quran specifically says that “if someone says something you deem objectionable about the God or Prophet Muhammad, ignore them”
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So says he.[^] Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
The prosecution only asked for life sentence, that's all? :wtf: He should be given a death sentence. Weiye Chen Life is hard, yet we are made of flesh...
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The prosecution only asked for life sentence, that's all? :wtf: He should be given a death sentence. Weiye Chen Life is hard, yet we are made of flesh...
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The prosecution only asked for life sentence, that's all? :wtf: He should be given a death sentence. Weiye Chen Life is hard, yet we are made of flesh...
There is no death penalty in the EU, it is illegal according to the European Convention on Human Rights. And frankly, death penalty would be too quick and easy. A life behind bars seems a harsher punishment for me.
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There is no death penalty in the EU, it is illegal according to the European Convention on Human Rights. And frankly, death penalty would be too quick and easy. A life behind bars seems a harsher punishment for me.
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K(arl) wrote: A life behind bars seems a harsher punishment for me. The problem with that is that someone has to pay for it through taxation. So, not only has this person killed n people, we now have to pay to keep him alive for however long that life is and probably in luxury. A quick death is the easiest: anything else is validating their warped views and acting at their level.
The true price of freedom is war.
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peterchen wrote: How many Muslims, do you think, feel the same? Undoubtedly, a much larger percentage than exists in any other modern religion. And certainly a large enough percentage that it is probably very unhealthy to put political correctness (the religion of the left, BTW) before a prudent, practical concern. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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K(arl) wrote: A life behind bars seems a harsher punishment for me. The problem with that is that someone has to pay for it through taxation. So, not only has this person killed n people, we now have to pay to keep him alive for however long that life is and probably in luxury. A quick death is the easiest: anything else is validating their warped views and acting at their level.
The true price of freedom is war.
you really have an obsession with money, haven't you? so tell me, what is the price of executing an innocent? legalAlien wrote: not only has this person killed n people, we now have to pay to keep him alive for however long that life is It is still less expensive than death penalty. For instance, In Florida, each execution costs the state $3.2 million, compared to $600,000 for life imprisonment[^]. legalAlien wrote: and probably in luxury Prove it. legalAlien wrote: anything else is validating their warped views A kill for a kill...and that does not validate their warped views?
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So says he.[^] Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me
Ha, atleast we now know his name, in the Dutch media he is always referred to as Mohammed B. Arjan
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K(arl) wrote: A life behind bars seems a harsher punishment for me. The problem with that is that someone has to pay for it through taxation. So, not only has this person killed n people, we now have to pay to keep him alive for however long that life is and probably in luxury. A quick death is the easiest: anything else is validating their warped views and acting at their level.
The true price of freedom is war.
IMO, death is too easy a way out for those who commit heinous crimes. They should be given a life sentence. But if the criminal in question is part of a terrorist organization which might take hostages and demand his release, he should be killed to avoid things like this[^] from happening. Cheers, Vikram.
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you really have an obsession with money, haven't you? so tell me, what is the price of executing an innocent? legalAlien wrote: not only has this person killed n people, we now have to pay to keep him alive for however long that life is It is still less expensive than death penalty. For instance, In Florida, each execution costs the state $3.2 million, compared to $600,000 for life imprisonment[^]. legalAlien wrote: and probably in luxury Prove it. legalAlien wrote: anything else is validating their warped views A kill for a kill...and that does not validate their warped views?
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K(arl) wrote: you really have an obsession with money, haven't you Only in as much as it makes sure I can feed my family and provide for my future and my childrens future. Other than that, no. On the other hand I really resent that I work hard and live a decent and honest life which is disrupted by these c***s who then get to live out their miserable existence paid for by my taxes which are being diverted from helping the elderly and homeless, to name but 2 segments of the community that need help. If you would rather spend the money on a killer go ahead. See if it makes you feel better the next time you pass a homeless guy on the street. Oh, and in the UK we do not execute anyone anymore and they all get a cell with a tv and lots of other little necesaties. Like heroin. K(arl) wrote: Prove it. As above. In any case, surely whatever life they are allowed is luxury compared to death? K(arl) wrote: A kill for a kill...and that does not validate their warped views? You do love to take the bits that suit you, don't you? You know very well what I was inferring. At least with a quick death (should that be deemed an appropriate punishment) we are not prolonging the agony for the sake of undue cruelty. Or would you rather we went back to hanging them, drawing them and then a final quartering with a flourish of their heads allowed to rot on stakes??? [Sorry if I'm ranting but I live in London and this has hurt and I'm not in a mood to be nice to these fuckers]
The true price of freedom is war.
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K(arl) wrote: you really have an obsession with money, haven't you Only in as much as it makes sure I can feed my family and provide for my future and my childrens future. Other than that, no. On the other hand I really resent that I work hard and live a decent and honest life which is disrupted by these c***s who then get to live out their miserable existence paid for by my taxes which are being diverted from helping the elderly and homeless, to name but 2 segments of the community that need help. If you would rather spend the money on a killer go ahead. See if it makes you feel better the next time you pass a homeless guy on the street. Oh, and in the UK we do not execute anyone anymore and they all get a cell with a tv and lots of other little necesaties. Like heroin. K(arl) wrote: Prove it. As above. In any case, surely whatever life they are allowed is luxury compared to death? K(arl) wrote: A kill for a kill...and that does not validate their warped views? You do love to take the bits that suit you, don't you? You know very well what I was inferring. At least with a quick death (should that be deemed an appropriate punishment) we are not prolonging the agony for the sake of undue cruelty. Or would you rather we went back to hanging them, drawing them and then a final quartering with a flourish of their heads allowed to rot on stakes??? [Sorry if I'm ranting but I live in London and this has hurt and I'm not in a mood to be nice to these fuckers]
The true price of freedom is war.
legalAlien wrote: a cell with a tv You think a cell with a TV is a luxury? :omg: It's not what they give you that is the punishment, it's taking away your freedom and independance. A TV will help pass the time but it wont make it any easier.
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K(arl) wrote: you really have an obsession with money, haven't you Only in as much as it makes sure I can feed my family and provide for my future and my childrens future. Other than that, no. On the other hand I really resent that I work hard and live a decent and honest life which is disrupted by these c***s who then get to live out their miserable existence paid for by my taxes which are being diverted from helping the elderly and homeless, to name but 2 segments of the community that need help. If you would rather spend the money on a killer go ahead. See if it makes you feel better the next time you pass a homeless guy on the street. Oh, and in the UK we do not execute anyone anymore and they all get a cell with a tv and lots of other little necesaties. Like heroin. K(arl) wrote: Prove it. As above. In any case, surely whatever life they are allowed is luxury compared to death? K(arl) wrote: A kill for a kill...and that does not validate their warped views? You do love to take the bits that suit you, don't you? You know very well what I was inferring. At least with a quick death (should that be deemed an appropriate punishment) we are not prolonging the agony for the sake of undue cruelty. Or would you rather we went back to hanging them, drawing them and then a final quartering with a flourish of their heads allowed to rot on stakes??? [Sorry if I'm ranting but I live in London and this has hurt and I'm not in a mood to be nice to these fuckers]
The true price of freedom is war.
legalAlien wrote: If you would rather spend the money on a killer go ahead. See if it makes you feel better the next time you pass a homeless guy on the street. Because death penalty is more expensive than a life sentence, I would say your solution would worsen the situation of elderly and homeless. Hey, I've got a better solution, let's execute the homeless! legalAlien wrote: they all get a cell with a tv and lots of other little necesaties Yeah, being confined in a room of 3 meters by 2 meters sounds really like paradise[^], as long as there's TV in it legalAlien wrote: would you rather we went back to hanging them, drawing them and then a final quartering with a flourish of their heads allowed to rot on stakes In term of sadism, breaking on the wheel seemed more popular. Anyway I'm against death penalty. legalAlien wrote: Sorry if I'm ranting No problem. I lived in Paris in 1995 during the bombing campaign on Paris public transport, I can understand your feelings.
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legalAlien wrote: a cell with a tv You think a cell with a TV is a luxury? :omg: It's not what they give you that is the punishment, it's taking away your freedom and independance. A TV will help pass the time but it wont make it any easier.
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David Wulff wrote: legalAlien wrote: a cell with a tv You think a cell with a TV is a luxury? They should be forced to watch soap operas and hard-core teleshopping programmes all day... now that would be punishment! :P David
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I never saw the movie, but when people start linking social issues like women abuse with religion there will always be a nut case who will show an extreme response. Couple of interesting things to note about Islam It is the only religion where women have given equal rights and a higher social stature. The Quran specifically says that “if someone says something you deem objectionable about the God or Prophet Muhammad, ignore them”
Anonymous wrote: It is the only religion where women have given equal rights and a higher social stature. Gee, maybe you ought to go explain that to all the Islamic nations on the planet where women can't get an education or drive a car, and are forced to wear bags over their heads and are summarily stoned to death when accused of adultry. Anonymous wrote: The Quran specifically says that “if someone says something you deem objectionable about the God or Prophet Muhammad, ignore them” Again, you seem to be preaching to the wrong crowd. What don't you muster the courage to go give that sermon in the Middle East somewhere - they seem to need it a lot more.
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I never saw the movie, but when people start linking social issues like women abuse with religion there will always be a nut case who will show an extreme response. Couple of interesting things to note about Islam It is the only religion where women have given equal rights and a higher social stature. The Quran specifically says that “if someone says something you deem objectionable about the God or Prophet Muhammad, ignore them”
Anonymous wrote: It is the only religion where women have given equal rights and a higher social stature. It is a blind and ignorant statement. In Christianity women have equal rights and high social stature. You need to read the bible to get the point. Many things that Muslims claim to be only in Islam are already in Bible. It is the Mary/idol/saint worshiping ways of Catholics, greedy evangelists and Bush like Christians that prefer living under old testament Laws to living in Christ that gives Christanity a bad name. Forcing the women to wear veils and male domination in islamic societies is not exactly what is known as "equal rights" and "social stature".
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Anonymous wrote: It is the only religion where women have given equal rights and a higher social stature. It is a blind and ignorant statement. In Christianity women have equal rights and high social stature. You need to read the bible to get the point. Many things that Muslims claim to be only in Islam are already in Bible. It is the Mary/idol/saint worshiping ways of Catholics, greedy evangelists and Bush like Christians that prefer living under old testament Laws to living in Christ that gives Christanity a bad name. Forcing the women to wear veils and male domination in islamic societies is not exactly what is known as "equal rights" and "social stature".
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There is no death penalty in the EU, it is illegal according to the European Convention on Human Rights. And frankly, death penalty would be too quick and easy. A life behind bars seems a harsher punishment for me.
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K(arl) wrote: And frankly, death penalty would be too quick and easy. A life behind bars seems a harsher punishment for me. 1. Death is the only way to guarantee that a criminal won't commit additional crimes. 2. I can't imagine what it's like to know that your days are numbered. On the other hand, knowing that you'll be behind bars for the rest of your life doesn't sound much better, but at least you can dream of one day getting the chance to escape. Regards, Alvaro
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