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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    [edit]How does christian values such as that jive with modern society? :~[/edit] -- An eye for an eye will only make the world blind.

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    Michael P Butler
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    in a movie where she keeps her clothes on. :-D Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      I see now that I didn't write what I meant to ask. My real question is: how does modern society jive with christian values. Sorry about that, but I just scolded my hands in a tad too warm water, so I guess I was somewhere else in my mind. :) -- An eye for an eye will only make the world blind.

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      This quote by Jesus is telling us how to interact with people, it is not telling us how the government should enforce laws. I can forgive someone who commits a crime against me, and they can still go to jail. One has to do with my relationship with that person.. how I think about them and treat them, the other has to do with how society maintains order.

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        This quote by Jesus is telling us how to interact with people, it is not telling us how the government should enforce laws. I can forgive someone who commits a crime against me, and they can still go to jail. One has to do with my relationship with that person.. how I think about them and treat them, the other has to do with how society maintains order.

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        Rick Beideman wrote: This quote by Jesus is telling us... yeah, but who cares what a long-haired, muscle-headed, tatooed smirking[^] redneck jerk says... Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          I see now that I didn't write what I meant to ask. My real question is: how does modern society jive with christian values. Sorry about that, but I just scolded my hands in a tad too warm water, so I guess I was somewhere else in my mind. :) -- An eye for an eye will only make the world blind.

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          Though modern society does not jive with Christian values, unlike the socities of other times, it has become very tolerant, lenient and forgiving, which I think mostly by Christian influence. Even in a hypothetical Christian country, it is impossible for a lawmaker to make laws or law enforcement to enforce then in a totally Christain way. No one can be a good administrator and a good Christian at the same time. So a good Christian would leave the administration to not so good people and try to live a life in accordance with the Bible. A little digression here - History shows that, however bad Christians they are, Christanity needs its conservatives for its survival. From the emporer Constantine to the King Richard and from the Popes who fought religious wars to Pesident Bush were/are really helping the survival of Christanity. If it is not for them, Christians would have been slaughtered to the brink of extinction. Not only the born conservatives who think they own Christanity would take up arms if the existance of Christanity is really threatened, but even the radical liberal sinners (who have more chances of being forgiven on repentance ) might turn into ultra conservatives (who have no chance of being forgiven because of their obstinate unrepentant self-righeous stance).

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          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

            [edit]How does christian values such as that jive with modern society? :~[/edit] -- An eye for an eye will only make the world blind.

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            Ever since the advent of psychology, our society has been moving more and more to idea that we can blame someone or something else, whether it's our parents, TV, rap music, the Internet, the Reps or the Dems or both, or the Muslims. It seems many people don't look at themselves first when blaming their troubles on others. And in our capitalistic society, where the one with the more toys wins, we're more than happy to criticize, complain, and condemn or neighbhor if it elevates our own position. Does it jive with modern society? Not at all. You've heard the responses of people here in the SB talking about what they think of people on wellfare. So much for the "give him the shirt off your back" principle. But then again, we wouldn't have welfare if there was more equality in our society. Since no one is without sin, no one has the right to cast the first stone at another. Yet, over the last 2000 years, it seems we have come no further in casting our eye inward to our own faults. Instead, we have created a new medicine called "psychotherapy". And people think I'm off my rocker for my opinions on homeopathy. hahaha. Marc My website
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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              [edit]How does christian values such as that jive with modern society? :~[/edit] -- An eye for an eye will only make the world blind.

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              Jesus made that specific statement to a group of hypocritical religious leaders. It's not actually an instruction to all Christians, as such, although it does gel in some ways with things that are. It doesn't mean that the guilty cannot be punished, it's talking more about self righteousness than anything else. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                I see now that I didn't write what I meant to ask. My real question is: how does modern society jive with christian values. Sorry about that, but I just scolded my hands in a tad too warm water, so I guess I was somewhere else in my mind. :) -- An eye for an eye will only make the world blind.

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                Christian Graus
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                Modern society and Christian values are about as far apart from one another as they can be. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                • J Jason Henderson

                  It doesn't jive and never has. We live in this world but we are not of this world. Know what I mean? You can't jive unless you become like Him. But even if you don't jive, we won't kill you or coerce you to join us. If someone that claims to be one of us does that, then he isn't one of us. (read epistles of John)

                  "Live long and prosper." - Spock

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                  Gosh - you got a 1 for telling the truth. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                    Jesus made that specific statement to a group of hypocritical religious leaders. It's not actually an instruction to all Christians, as such, although it does gel in some ways with things that are. It doesn't mean that the guilty cannot be punished, it's talking more about self righteousness than anything else. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                    Christian Graus wrote: Jesus made that specific statement to a group of hypocritical religious leaders. It's not actually an instruction to all Christians, as such, although it does gel in some ways with things that are. It doesn't mean that the guilty cannot be punished, it's talking more about self righteousness than anything else. If it were a specific statment, he would not have said "those without sin". According to Jesus no one is(was) without sin. If that is true, it is hypocritcal for any sinner, which means anyone, to cast stones or punish the sinner. If a Christian gets involved in the punishment of a sinner, he/she is a nothing but a hypocrite. Guilty (of crime) need to be punished, but not by a Christian unless he is circumcised, obey all the laws of the Old Testament and is without sin. The problem with modern day Conservative Christians is that they are as bad and as hypocritcal as the Jewish conservatives who sentenced Jesus to death. A sinner has more chances of redumption than a self-righteous conservative Christian who still 'upholds' the laws because a self-righteous person would neither realize or admit his/her guilt.

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                      Gosh - you got a 1 for telling the truth. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                      Christian Graus wrote: Gosh - you got a 1 for telling the truth. Gosh, a 1 is nothing when compared to what the Apostles underwent for telling the truth.

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                        Gosh - you got a 1 for telling the truth. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                        Jason Henderson
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                        Some people can't handle the truth.

                        "Live long and prosper." - Spock

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