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  • RaviBeeR RaviBee

    DavidCrow wrote: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE exists even when no one is logged in. True. But if I'm not mistaken, a "Run" entry in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE subtree causes the application to start after any user logs in, as opposed to a corresponding entry for a specific user in the HKEY_USERS subtree which causes the app to only start when that user logs in. Regardless, the user has to first login. <aside> I believe this mechanism is used by installers that ask "Do you want to install this program for all users or just yourself?". </aside> /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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    Ravi Bhavnani wrote: But if I'm not mistaken, a "Run" entry in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE subtree causes the application to start after any user logs in...Regardless, the user has to first login. Not so. I just verified this and without logging in to the machine, the applications in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run are indeed started. [edit] The jury is still out on this one. I'll keep looking... [/edit]


    "One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb

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      Ravi Bhavnani wrote: But if I'm not mistaken, a "Run" entry in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE subtree causes the application to start after any user logs in...Regardless, the user has to first login. Not so. I just verified this and without logging in to the machine, the applications in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run are indeed started. [edit] The jury is still out on this one. I'll keep looking... [/edit]


      "One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb

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      DavidCrow wrote: without logging in to the machine, the applications in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run are indeed started. That's amazing.  It seems to work exactly as I described on my Win XP Home SP1 box.  I confirmed this by adding a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\... entry to this test app:

      #include "stdafx.h"
      #include "time.h"

      int main(int argc, char* argv[])
      {
      time_t tmNow;
      time (&tmNow);
      char szFilespec [255];
      sprintf (szFilespec, "C:\\%d.txt", tmNow);

      FILE* fp = fopen (szFilespec, "w");
      fclose (fp);
      return 0;
      }

      and rebooting and logging in a few seconds later. As I expected, there was only one file (C:\1124224887.txt) created. This matches Microsoft's documentation[^] of these keys. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        Ravi Bhavnani wrote: But if I'm not mistaken, a "Run" entry in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE subtree causes the application to start after any user logs in...Regardless, the user has to first login. Not so. I just verified this and without logging in to the machine, the applications in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run are indeed started. [edit] The jury is still out on this one. I'll keep looking... [/edit]


        "One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb

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        Did you mean RunServices instead of Run? /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        • RaviBeeR RaviBee

          DavidCrow wrote: without logging in to the machine, the applications in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run are indeed started. That's amazing.  It seems to work exactly as I described on my Win XP Home SP1 box.  I confirmed this by adding a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\... entry to this test app:

          #include "stdafx.h"
          #include "time.h"

          int main(int argc, char* argv[])
          {
          time_t tmNow;
          time (&tmNow);
          char szFilespec [255];
          sprintf (szFilespec, "C:\\%d.txt", tmNow);

          FILE* fp = fopen (szFilespec, "w");
          fclose (fp);
          return 0;
          }

          and rebooting and logging in a few seconds later. As I expected, there was only one file (C:\1124224887.txt) created. This matches Microsoft's documentation[^] of these keys. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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          Ravi Bhavnani wrote: ...and rebooting and logging in a few seconds later. But the question is does your test application run if you don't log in?


          "One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb

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          • RaviBeeR RaviBee

            Did you mean RunServices instead of Run? /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Did you mean RunServices instead of Run? No.


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              Ravi Bhavnani wrote: ...and rebooting and logging in a few seconds later. But the question is does your test application run if you don't log in?


              "One must learn from the bite of the fire to leave it alone." - Native American Proverb

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              DavidCrow wrote: does your test application run if you don't log in? No, because if it did, there would have been 2 files created - once when the system rebooted and once after I logged in. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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              • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                DavidCrow wrote: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE exists even when no one is logged in. True. But if I'm not mistaken, a "Run" entry in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE subtree causes the application to start after any user logs in, as opposed to a corresponding entry for a specific user in the HKEY_USERS subtree which causes the app to only start when that user logs in. Regardless, the user has to first login. <aside> I believe this mechanism is used by installers that ask "Do you want to install this program for all users or just yourself?". </aside> /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                Ravi Bhavnani wrote: But if I'm not mistaken, a "Run" entry in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE subtree causes the application to start after any user logs in, as opposed to a corresponding entry for a specific user in the HKEY_USERS subtree which causes the app to only start when that user logs in. Regardless, the user has to first login. That's the way I've taken it to work, I always have to log in of HKLM\...\Run to take effect. One thing I suggest doing though, is use Winlogon Notification Packages (assuming you're programming for an NT-based version of windows), you can listen to startup/shutdown/login/logoff and other events. Check: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/secauthn/security/winlogon\_notification\_packages.asp HTH

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                  Ravi Bhavnani wrote: But if I'm not mistaken, a "Run" entry in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE subtree causes the application to start after any user logs in, as opposed to a corresponding entry for a specific user in the HKEY_USERS subtree which causes the app to only start when that user logs in. Regardless, the user has to first login. That's the way I've taken it to work, I always have to log in of HKLM\...\Run to take effect. One thing I suggest doing though, is use Winlogon Notification Packages (assuming you're programming for an NT-based version of windows), you can listen to startup/shutdown/login/logoff and other events. Check: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/secauthn/security/winlogon\_notification\_packages.asp HTH

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                  Thanks for the info, but you may want to post a reply to the original author of the thread. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                    Thanks for the info, but you may want to post a reply to the original author of the thread. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                    Good point! :doh:

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                      Hi all, I wanna create a program that startup each time the pc started..which api i can used? :rolleyes:

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                      One thing I suggest doing, is use Winlogon Notification Packages (assuming you're programming for an NT-based version of windows), you can listen to startup/shutdown/login/logoff and other events. Check: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/secauthn/security/winlogon\_notification\_packages.asp HTH

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                      • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                        DavidCrow wrote: does your test application run if you don't log in? No, because if it did, there would have been 2 files created - once when the system rebooted and once after I logged in. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                        why would there have to be two? if its started on startup it wouldnt create another process of itself for the user logging in. would it?

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                          why would there have to be two? if its started on startup it wouldnt create another process of itself for the user logging in. would it?

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                          I booted the system at 2:30pm and logged in at 2:35pm. The file was timestamped 2:35pm. My point was, if the application ran on boot up, there would have been 2 files - one timestamped 2:30pm and the other 2:35pm. I also confirmed that the file is created every time I login. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                            I booted the system at 2:30pm and logged in at 2:35pm. The file was timestamped 2:35pm. My point was, if the application ran on boot up, there would have been 2 files - one timestamped 2:30pm and the other 2:35pm. I also confirmed that the file is created every time I login. /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                            cool

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