Well, a perfect reason of invasion has arrived, so can we invade now?
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Stan Shannon wrote:
than we might as well invade
I think we are reaching a point were we can say: You and what army?
Stan Shannon wrote:
Why don't you at the very least show some balls and go back to the middle east and defend the principles you hold so dear.
Take your own advice.[^] Or is a little courage too much to ask from a right-wing Chrisitan? Quran Translation Intro Discover
A.A. wrote:
I think we are reaching a point were we can say: You and what army?
Probably the same army that is slapping Islamic/Syrian militants around in Iraq like so many little girls.
A.A. wrote:
Take your own advice.[^]
Been there, done that. Hey, I'm still game though if you want to suit up... "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." -- modified at 19:47 Friday 21st October, 2005
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Oh how quickly you turned a blind eye to my point and made it an anti-Islamic, all-muslims-are-bad, i-am-right rant. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this; -- modified at 18:10 Friday 21st October, 2005
Your point was an anti-American, anti-western rant. What kind of a scum bag does it take to trash talk a country that has given you hope and freedom and so much more? The fact that you voice such opinions tells me everything I need to know about you and your culture, not to mention your mother. But than, I suppose someone who had nothing to be grateful for could be expected to teach gratitude to her son. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
aw come on Stan, say what you really think.
I think he is showing his prejudice and hatred openly. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
I think he is showing his prejudice and hatred openly.
Kiss my ass. You think you can show nothing but prejudice and hatred towards Americans, and when we respond in kind you get to play the race card? You will find that not every westerner is that goddamned brain washed. I will match you prejudice for prejudice and hate for hate. Get used to it. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Wow, you took a topic on the murder of a man by the Syrian Goverment and changed the subject to the CIA, Mossad, MI5, KGB, RAW, ISI and all in one sentence. Lets talk about it then. Syrians kill innocent man because he speaks of independence. Mossad kills terrorist because they kill innocent people. yea right...
And the CIA bombed a civilian airliner because that plane was supposed to carry Chou En-lai to the Non-Aligned Nations Conference at Bandung, Indonesia. I just LOVE the justifications Americans bring up for the misdeeds of their government. I wonder, is it patriotism (the last refuge of scoundrels, if I remember correctly) or just plain stupidity?
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Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
So you are saying that CIA, Mossad, MI5, KGB, RAW, ISI and others *never* *ever* killed any innocent person?
Wow, still missing the point of Syrian goverment killing an innocent man. Ok. I'll say I have never seen any proof that the CIA, or Mossad killed a innocent person on purpose. There have been deaths by accident, but this is not the same as what Syria did is it.
I suppose the overthrow of the government of Iran in 1955, the government in Guatemala in 1954, the government in Chile in the 1970s were all just accidents. Remember, all these governments were legitimately elected by their people. Unlike a country where the Supreme Court stops the vote count while deliberating and then announces there isn't enough time anymore to re-count the votes.
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Your point was an anti-American, anti-western rant. What kind of a scum bag does it take to trash talk a country that has given you hope and freedom and so much more? The fact that you voice such opinions tells me everything I need to know about you and your culture, not to mention your mother. But than, I suppose someone who had nothing to be grateful for could be expected to teach gratitude to her son. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote:
Your point was an anti-American, anti-western rant. What kind of a scum bag does it take to trash talk a country that has given you hope and freedom and so much more? The fact that you voice such opinions tells me everything I need to know about you and your culture, not to mention your mother. But than, I suppose someone who had nothing to be grateful for could be expected to teach gratitude to her son.
Hello... is there a brain in there? His rant is directed at this administration, which is full of inept, corrupt, war-mongering buffoons. (And we have people like you to thank for that, BTW.) Here we have yet another person who's tired of this administration's crap and all you can do is insinuate that he's nothing but a slimey foreigner who should keep his trap shut in the name of gratitude. I wonder how you would have reacted if his name had been "John Smith" instead of "Farhan Noor Qureshi".
I cannot take anything the Bush administration does seriously. The corruption, the cynical disregard for humanity, the cronyism and incompetence, all wrapped in a slimey flag of ultra-marketed nationalism repulses me. -- consdubya from fark.com.
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Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
I think he is showing his prejudice and hatred openly.
Kiss my ass. You think you can show nothing but prejudice and hatred towards Americans, and when we respond in kind you get to play the race card? You will find that not every westerner is that goddamned brain washed. I will match you prejudice for prejudice and hate for hate. Get used to it. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote:
You think you can show nothing but prejudice and hatred towards Americans,
You are wrong. Not agreeing, having a differnt opinion and criticizing *does not* mean hatred. Its your hate filled mind that is making this assumption.
Stan Shannon wrote:
when we respond in kind you get to play the race card?
What race card did I play? :wtf:
Stan Shannon wrote:
You will find that not every westerner is that goddamned brain washed.
Yes, I agree. See what British, Canadian, Italian, German, Spanish think of you.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I will match you prejudice for prejudice and hate for hate. Get used to it.
Speak for yourself. X| Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Your point was an anti-American, anti-western rant. What kind of a scum bag does it take to trash talk a country that has given you hope and freedom and so much more? The fact that you voice such opinions tells me everything I need to know about you and your culture, not to mention your mother. But than, I suppose someone who had nothing to be grateful for could be expected to teach gratitude to her son.
Hello... is there a brain in there? His rant is directed at this administration, which is full of inept, corrupt, war-mongering buffoons. (And we have people like you to thank for that, BTW.) Here we have yet another person who's tired of this administration's crap and all you can do is insinuate that he's nothing but a slimey foreigner who should keep his trap shut in the name of gratitude. I wonder how you would have reacted if his name had been "John Smith" instead of "Farhan Noor Qureshi".
I cannot take anything the Bush administration does seriously. The corruption, the cynical disregard for humanity, the cronyism and incompetence, all wrapped in a slimey flag of ultra-marketed nationalism repulses me. -- consdubya from fark.com.
Thanks Alvaro. I need not answer him anymore :) Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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A.A. wrote:
I think we are reaching a point were we can say: You and what army?
Probably the same army that is slapping Islamic/Syrian militants around in Iraq like so many little girls.
A.A. wrote:
Take your own advice.[^]
Been there, done that. Hey, I'm still game though if you want to suit up... "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." -- modified at 19:47 Friday 21st October, 2005
Stan Shannon wrote:
Been there, done that.
Then do it again. Instead of high schoolers, you'd be a better fit. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Your point was an anti-American, anti-western rant. What kind of a scum bag does it take to trash talk a country that has given you hope and freedom and so much more? The fact that you voice such opinions tells me everything I need to know about you and your culture, not to mention your mother. But than, I suppose someone who had nothing to be grateful for could be expected to teach gratitude to her son.
Hello... is there a brain in there? His rant is directed at this administration, which is full of inept, corrupt, war-mongering buffoons. (And we have people like you to thank for that, BTW.) Here we have yet another person who's tired of this administration's crap and all you can do is insinuate that he's nothing but a slimey foreigner who should keep his trap shut in the name of gratitude. I wonder how you would have reacted if his name had been "John Smith" instead of "Farhan Noor Qureshi".
I cannot take anything the Bush administration does seriously. The corruption, the cynical disregard for humanity, the cronyism and incompetence, all wrapped in a slimey flag of ultra-marketed nationalism repulses me. -- consdubya from fark.com.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
His rant is directed at this administration, which is full of inept, corrupt, war-mongering buffoons.
Equating the activities of the intelligence agencies of a country he lives in to those of some murderous tyranny in the middle east is not a slam at Bush, it is a slam at the US and the west in general. That is about as vile and low as a person can get. If he trully believes that crap he should at least have the decency to leave (and take you with him) and stop using the freedoms those institutions help provide to him to spread his propaganda. If he has the courage to go to Syria and make the same comments about them, then I would have some respect for him. It is not really all that brave to criticize when you know no one will confront you on it. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Been there, done that.
Then do it again. Instead of high schoolers, you'd be a better fit. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
Then do it again. Instead of high schoolers, you'd be a better fit.
I actually tried. I'm still in much better shape than your aveage American 18 year old couch potato , but the military didn't think puting at 51 year old man in the field was a good idea. I would love to go over there and help fight these evil bastards though. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Stan Shannon wrote:
You think you can show nothing but prejudice and hatred towards Americans,
You are wrong. Not agreeing, having a differnt opinion and criticizing *does not* mean hatred. Its your hate filled mind that is making this assumption.
Stan Shannon wrote:
when we respond in kind you get to play the race card?
What race card did I play? :wtf:
Stan Shannon wrote:
You will find that not every westerner is that goddamned brain washed.
Yes, I agree. See what British, Canadian, Italian, German, Spanish think of you.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I will match you prejudice for prejudice and hate for hate. Get used to it.
Speak for yourself. X| Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
Speak for yourself
No, I will also speak for you because you are a lieing bastard incapable of dealing with the truth. You are fucking hate monger of the most vile type. You and those like you need to be confronted on it and no longer allowed to spew your venom unopposed. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
Speak for yourself
No, I will also speak for you because you are a lieing bastard incapable of dealing with the truth. You are fucking hate monger of the most vile type. You and those like you need to be confronted on it and no longer allowed to spew your venom unopposed. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote:
No, I will also speak for you because you are a lieing bastard incapable of dealing with the truth. You are f***ing hate monger of the most vile type. You and those like you need to be confronted on it and no longer allowed to spew your venom unopposed.
Well, looks like your venom is most potent here. [Edited] And, NO, no body has a right to speak for me, but me. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this; -- modified at 13:56 Saturday 22nd October, 2005
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Been there, done that.
Then do it again. Instead of high schoolers, you'd be a better fit. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
Instead of high schoolers
Actually, High School graduation is a PRErequisite to military service in this country. The only "high schoolers" fighting in Iraq are not American... And even high school graduates under the age of 18 require parental consent to enlist... But then, I doubt that you would know that, or bother to find out. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
His rant is directed at this administration, which is full of inept, corrupt, war-mongering buffoons.
Equating the activities of the intelligence agencies of a country he lives in to those of some murderous tyranny in the middle east is not a slam at Bush, it is a slam at the US and the west in general. That is about as vile and low as a person can get. If he trully believes that crap he should at least have the decency to leave (and take you with him) and stop using the freedoms those institutions help provide to him to spread his propaganda. If he has the courage to go to Syria and make the same comments about them, then I would have some respect for him. It is not really all that brave to criticize when you know no one will confront you on it. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote:
Equating the activities of the intelligence agencies of a country he lives in to those of some murderous tyranny in the middle east is not a slam at Bush, it is a slam at the US and the west in general.
Just read this one, specially the Third World section. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA[^] And its people like you who are converting the current situation around the world into "Clash of Civilizations", "Crusades", "Jihad" and other crapola and only sufferers are the poor civilians.
Stan Shannon wrote:
If he has the courage to go to Syria and make the same comments about them, then I would have some respect for him. It is not really all that brave to criticize when you know no one will confront you on it.
Syria is a dictatorship, not a democracy. They dont claim to be open and fair. They persecute whosoever they dislike, thats the very essence of a dictatorship and THAT'S what you are proposing that no body has no right to object and governments have the absolute authority over every thing (hint hint). Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
Instead of high schoolers
Actually, High School graduation is a PRErequisite to military service in this country. The only "high schoolers" fighting in Iraq are not American... And even high school graduates under the age of 18 require parental consent to enlist... But then, I doubt that you would know that, or bother to find out. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
Rob Graham wrote:
Actually, High School graduation is a PRErequisite to military service in this country. The only "high schoolers" fighting in Iraq are not American... And even high school graduates under the age of 18 require parental consent to enlist... But then, I doubt that you would know that, or bother to find out.
I did not mean to point out educational qualification, I meant their age. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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Rob Graham wrote:
Actually, High School graduation is a PRErequisite to military service in this country. The only "high schoolers" fighting in Iraq are not American... And even high school graduates under the age of 18 require parental consent to enlist... But then, I doubt that you would know that, or bother to find out.
I did not mean to point out educational qualification, I meant their age. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
If they are High Scool graduates, then they are no longer of High School age either. Your premise is incorrect anyway. In 2003 (latest data I could find) only 17% of active duty army personnel were in the 17-20 age group. The remaining 83% were 21 or older.http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/demographics/FY03ArmyProfileWebVs.pdf[^] You should check your "fact" more thoroughly/ Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
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kgaddy wrote:
Do you believe that if a nation is going aroung killing people of other nations, that nation should be stopped?
Yes.
kgaddy wrote:
And how do you propose that we stop one nation from killing people from another nation?
First by looking ourselves in mirror. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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And the CIA bombed a civilian airliner because that plane was supposed to carry Chou En-lai to the Non-Aligned Nations Conference at Bandung, Indonesia. I just LOVE the justifications Americans bring up for the misdeeds of their government. I wonder, is it patriotism (the last refuge of scoundrels, if I remember correctly) or just plain stupidity?
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kgaddy wrote:
What do we do then?
Any thing but war, if thats not too difficult.:sigh: Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;