Islam is such apeaceful religion

Judah Gabriel Himango

I don't think all Muslims are violent or intolerant. But there are many that are so zealous for Islam that they will carry out acts of violence against Islam's perceived enemies. Of course, that isn't to say Islam itself is an evil religion. One cannot forgot that evil people in the Christian religion have been guilty of the same persecution and intolerance. This was especially true in the Roman Catholic Church of the Middle Ages. Even today you have some bad apples in Judaism and Christianity. That said, it is undeniable persecution, intolerance, & violence in the name of God is happening on a far greater scale in Islam than any other religion in the world. This is especially true in the middle east.

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Rob Graham

Are you pointing this out as some example of the quality of justice in muslim nations? Or do you really believe this was a CIA/Mossad plot? "On May 6, the six defendants were sentenced to death by firing squad -- with a 60-day period to launch an appeal -- in a trial observers say flew in the face of human rights in every respect. Nine Libyan health workers also charged in the case were acquitted the same day."[^] Sounds more like supestitious persecution of people whose worst offense may have been poor sterilization practices. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

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Judah Himango wrote:

That said, it is undeniable persecution, intolerance, & violence in the name of God is happening on a far greater scale in Islam than any other religion in the world.

It depends if you consider the war on Iraq was one that W thought was in the name of God. Quran Translation Intro Discover

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Rob Graham wrote:

Or do you really believe this was a CIA/Mossad plot?

They have enough plots to fill volumes.

Rob Graham wrote:

"On May 6, the six defendants were sentenced to death by firing squad -- with a 60-day period to launch an appeal -- in a trial observers say flew in the face of human rights in every respect. Nine Libyan health workers also charged in the case were acquitted the same day."[^]

Finally a case where trial observers opinion in "how it flew in the face of human rights" is important. In any case I didn't hear W make that assertion. Quran Translation Intro Discover

Anonymous

The Christian Bible says "Love Your Enemies" and "Turn The Other Cheek", the Koran advocates killing infadels. Here Are Some Verses From The Koran: Sura 2:191: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. Sura 2:39: But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein. Here Are Some Verses From The Christian Bible: Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, Luke 6:29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the [one] cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not [to take thy] coat also.

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Anonymous wrote:

Sura 2:191: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

And? Maybe you have a hard time understanding whats written there so let me get the surrounding Ayahs. 002.190 And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. 002.191 And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers. 002.192 But if they desist, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Anonymous wrote:

Sura 2:39: But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein.

What was your point again? This is something that all messages brought from God believe. On the other hand you change your religion to follow your desires. As for the Bible quotes, someone needs to get the message to the Christians in power. Quran Translation Intro Discover -- modified at 19:31 Saturday 22nd October, 2005

Anonymous

I am the one who you all want my IP banned.

Mike Gaskey

A.A. wrote:

What was your point again?

I have absolutely no clue who Anonymous happens to be but you and other Muslims that post here really miss the point. That point being that there is a tremendous amount of murder and mayhem taking place around the world in the name of Islam. If you and others believe or want to contend that Islam is a peaceful religion then, you could quickly put a stop to the hateful posts by condeming the evil done in the name of Islam and get off of what happened in the Dark Ages. If you would I would warrant that the hateful posts and snide remarks would cease world wide. No one here gives a flying fuck who you pray to, who you worship, how you pray, how you worship, etc. but they do care that there are murderers, spinless fucking creatures of the shadows who intentionally, not accidently, but purposefully, kill and maim innocents - all in the name of Allah and in the name of Islam and neither you nor any other Muslim I've seen posting here and certainly no mainstream or well known Islamic spokesman speaks up to condem it. And by the way, saying Bush is a Christian and look what he does doesn't mean shit. Yes he prosecuted a war in Afganistan and we killed God only knows how many, yes he prosecuted a war in Iraq but he did neither in the name of a religion nor did he do it in the name of God. You may not agree with either war but both were prosecuted because of his belief it was necessary to live up to his obligations as the elected president of the United States and not because he's attempting to convert the world to his religous beliefs. So until you and other Muslims speak up against what is being done in the name of Islam, ya'll can all fuck off. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon

Stan Shannon

A.A. wrote:

Here seems to be another right-wing Christian that uses his freedom of speech[^]

Feel free anytime to go find yourself a country that is more suitable to your delicate sensibilities. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

MoustafaS

Mike Gaskey wrote:

but you and other Muslims that post here really miss the point.

And you think you get it ? X|

Mike Gaskey wrote:

but they do care that there are murderers, spinless f***ing creatures of the shadows who intentionally, not accidently, but purposefully, kill and maim innocents

Haha, and the others are angles, RIGHT?

Mike Gaskey wrote:

saying Bush is a Christian and look what he does doesn't mean sh*t.

Yes, it doesn't mean sh**, because he is a Christian following a Juc*******, and they are very angles that they don't kill anybody but children and women, Because ofcourse they know they are much stronger than the MUSLIM men, and they have to be killed to not shot bullets(STONES) at them,right?

Mike Gaskey wrote:

Yes he prosecuted a war in Afganistan and we killed God only knows how many, yes he prosecuted a war in Iraq but he did neither in the name of a religion nor did he do it in the name of God.

Oh, he did it in the name of what, his father ?

Mike Gaskey wrote:

it was necessary to live up to his obligations as the elected president of the United States and not because he's attempting to convert the world to his religous beliefs.

And WITH THIS WORDS ,you are calling US : THE MUSLIMS murderers ????????:doh: That is a very good point you started.

Mike Gaskey wrote:

what is being done in the name of Islam

What is being done? Is defensing home and offending someone attacking your relegion is something in shame, I think if I did that with your relegion -In case you have- you would be in that anger . And you are the one who have to f*** off.

"Praying." Is this only what I can do for him ?

Ed Gadziemski

Matthew 10:34 Do not expect that I have come to spread peace over the earth. I did not come to spread peace, except destruction.

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JWood

Yeah while we're at it why don't we crack open the Talmud and the Old Testament. That otta be fun. They are are all lunatic intolerant drivel written centuries ago that are mostly discreditted religous ravings by any right minded person who takes the trouble to actually read it. OTH I have a lot of respect for Jesus of Nazereth. He went into the temple and saw a pure institution supposedly for helping your fellow man, corrupted by greed and stupidity, turned some tables, and was nailed to the cross for his troubles. Why can't we take that message, surely, and make it the central message rather than all this blathering over sin, and obsession over 6000 y.o myths.

Farhan Noor Qureshi

Well you've gotta read this[^] then. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;

Farhan Noor Qureshi

Anonymous wrote:

Here Are Some Verses From The Koran:

Now here are some verses from Bible. Yahweh is a man of war. Exodus 15:2 For Yahweh had ordained that the hearts of these (Arabs) should be stubborn enough to fight against Israel, so that they might be mercilessly delivered over to the ban and be wiped out, as Yahweh had ordered Š Thus Joshua Š left no one alive and delivered every single soul over to the ban, as Yahweh the God of Israel had commanded Š Joshua conquered all the royal cities and their kings and struck them with the edge of the sword because of the ban as Š Yahweh had ordered. As for the spoils of these towns and the cattle, the Israelites took them for themselves. But they struck all the human beings with the edge of the sword, and wiped them all out; they did not leave one living soul. Joshua 10:40; ll:12-20 Thirty-eight mitzvoth of biblical law command death (Ex. 21:14-23:33; Lev. 10; 15:31; 20:9ff; 231:9: 24:20ff, 28f; 35:16ff; Num. 15:32ff; 25; Deut 5:32ff; 6;4ff; 13:1ff, 7ff, 23; 17:2:181ff; 10:1ff; 22:20; 24:7; 28;15ff; 30:15) for such offenses as murder, striking or cursing or rebelling against a parent, being a sorceress, bestiality, practicing or advocating indigenous religion or living in a town where it is practiced, improper practice of YHWH religion, being an indigenous Arab, a long list of sexual offenses, gathering sticks on Sabbath, and a female not bleeding on the wedding cloth on her wedding night. Ten mitzvoth command the dread, persecution or extermination of indigenous Arabs and other foreigners: Ex: 23:23, 33; 34:12ff; Lev 18:1ff; 20:1ff; Deut 23:3; 29:11, 18ff; 32:31, 39ff. Sixteen command war or genocide: Ex 23:27ff; 34:26; Num 312:1ff; Deut 2:34; 3:3, 5ff; 4:31, 37; 20:1ff, 10ff; 32:39ff. Do I like google or what? :-D:-D:-D Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;

Anonymous

In Matthew 10:34-36, the "sword" which Our Lord brings is His Word (Ephesians 6:17). It is not His intention to bring strife, but Our Lord knows that His Word stands against the sinful world. This "sword" he brings is not necessarily bringing violence and war to the earth, but His Word declares war against sin and Satan to do battle for the souls of men. Nice try. Ask yourself, by picking one quote out of context, what are you trying to accomplish? How does this justify Islam? Read the whole book of Matthew first.

Anonymous

Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:

should be stubborn enough to fight against Israel

Why were they trying to destroy Israel? If they were peacefuly God would have no problem.

Anonymous

This verse does not advise violence. What it means is, in a group, for example a family, if someone accepts Jesus, then the rest of the roup might fight against him/her and possibly kill him/her, and also other members of the group, those who are against and those who are not all that against the conversion, might fight against each other -- which is excatly what has been happening throughout the history. In fact, Multitudes of familes have been spilt because of Jesus. Here is a good link: Jihad: Quran 9:123 v. Matthew 10:34[^] Why is Christianity a religion of peace? Because, Mathew 6:38-43 teaches us to forgive our enemies and pray for our persecuters. Compare this with "Hey morons, I've got these verses from God. Better belive it because I say so. Kill anyone who talk against these verses". The best example of the peaceful nature Christianity is what the best Christians ever, the Apostles, did. They knew Jesus better than anyone else or Mohammed (Jesus as portrayed in the Koran was a figment of Mohammed's imagination). Did they use violence against their enemies? No. Did they spread Gospel by means of violence? Again a big NO. The truth is, they did not resort to violence even in self-defense. Even the Apostle Paul, once a very violent guy, became a martyr peacefully and without a fight. All this is very much in contrast to what Mohammed and his followers did.

Anonymous

Moron, we all know there is violence in the Old Testament. but it is the New Testament that is the basis of Christianity. Most of the Mohammed's knowledge came from Christain missioneries and the Bible. He thought many parts of the Bible are not acceptable, especially the Crucifixion of Christ, because they did not suit his ideas about God. So he came up with his own book. He thought the Bible was perverted because of the translations etc. If we apply his own logic to Koran, it is much more perverted because he lived six hundred years after the Crucifixion and perverted everything about Jesus, someone who he had no knowledge of except what he knew from the Bible. So start your islamic name calling.

legalAlien

What a nasty little creature you are who just goes to prove Mr Gaskey's point with your obtuse rants. As a muslim come out and roundly condem muslim violence without trying to blame everyone else; encourage mainstream muslims to do the same and control the vile dogs that perpetrate obscene violence in the name of islam and maybe islam and muslims will get heard. Until that time I fully support any action our governments take to protect us from the islamic scum who kill indiscrimantely in the name of a god who must be horrified at what he/she/it has created in you. Personally I have been saying for many years that muslims present a real and present danger to our culture and way of life and if we don't deal with it now our children will pay later. I would dearly love for you to prove me wrong. Sadly I don't think you can. Have a nice day whatever delusional way of life you subscribe to.

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Ryan Roberts

Anonymous wrote:

it is much more perverted because he lived six hundred years after the Crucifixion and perverted everything about Jesus, someone who he had no knowledge of except what he knew from the Bible.

And you have a direct line to the big 'C' yes? Ryan

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