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  • R Ryan Roberts

    Anonymous wrote:

    it is much more perverted because he lived six hundred years after the Crucifixion and perverted everything about Jesus, someone who he had no knowledge of except what he knew from the Bible.

    And you have a direct line to the big 'C' yes? Ryan

    O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)

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    Anonymous
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    You do not have to have a direct line to Jesus to know this, you just have to know how to read.

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      till the juches show-up and started to fake everything and stuck it to the Muslims.

      Not sure what a juches is but I'm guessing that you are thinking that muslims have done nothing and the westerners faked everying and blamed musilums???:wtf: :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::omg::wtf::wtf::wtf: I would love to see you attempt to prove this.

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      MoustafaS
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      Anonymous wrote:

      but I'm guessing that you are thinking that muslims have done nothing

      No, they have done many things, but all they weren't for just killing, as the USA does.

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      faked everying

      The Israelians did, not the americans them selves, and specially not the Chritians. In QORAN :

      You will find the most religion good with you, the Christians that is because they have the men that worship and monks, And you will find the most offending you, The Juches, that they have killed the prophits and they didn't obey the god and were attacking.

      "Praying." Is this only what I can do for him ?

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        Sura 2:191: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

        And? Maybe you have a hard time understanding whats written there so let me get the surrounding Ayahs. 002.190 And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. 002.191 And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers. 002.192 But if they desist, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

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        Sura 2:39: But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein.

        What was your point again? This is something that all messages brought from God believe. On the other hand you change your religion to follow your desires. As for the Bible quotes, someone needs to get the message to the Christians in power. Quran Translation Intro Discover -- modified at 19:31 Saturday 22nd October, 2005

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        A.A first of all, Salam to you No Wonder,chiristians and jews are used to qoute quranic verses out of context to prove themselves right and islam/quran wrong,i have seen this practise lots of time,they talk and give reference about bible,they dont even remember how many versions of bible came out as yet(no wonder,everyone comes up with his own version),who knows world starts buying King.G.W Bush version of bible soon in which he would justify that jesus was with him at time of war in iraq and afghanistan. Those who give reference of bible,my advise for them to read it carefuly what bible talks about MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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          In Matthew 10:34-36, the "sword" which Our Lord brings is His Word (Ephesians 6:17). It is not His intention to bring strife, but Our Lord knows that His Word stands against the sinful world. This "sword" he brings is not necessarily bringing violence and war to the earth, but His Word declares war against sin and Satan to do battle for the souls of men. Nice try. Ask yourself, by picking one quote out of context, what are you trying to accomplish? How does this justify Islam? Read the whole book of Matthew first.

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          Adnan Siddiqi
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          Idiot anonymous kid,same applies on you, Read Whole Quran first MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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            This verse does not advise violence. What it means is, in a group, for example a family, if someone accepts Jesus, then the rest of the roup might fight against him/her and possibly kill him/her, and also other members of the group, those who are against and those who are not all that against the conversion, might fight against each other -- which is excatly what has been happening throughout the history. In fact, Multitudes of familes have been spilt because of Jesus. Here is a good link: Jihad: Quran 9:123 v. Matthew 10:34[^] Why is Christianity a religion of peace? Because, Mathew 6:38-43 teaches us to forgive our enemies and pray for our persecuters. Compare this with "Hey morons, I've got these verses from God. Better belive it because I say so. Kill anyone who talk against these verses". The best example of the peaceful nature Christianity is what the best Christians ever, the Apostles, did. They knew Jesus better than anyone else or Mohammed (Jesus as portrayed in the Koran was a figment of Mohammed's imagination). Did they use violence against their enemies? No. Did they spread Gospel by means of violence? Again a big NO. The truth is, they did not resort to violence even in self-defense. Even the Apostle Paul, once a very violent guy, became a martyr peacefully and without a fight. All this is very much in contrast to what Mohammed and his followers did.

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            Farhan Noor Qureshi
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            Genesis 1. God likes Abel's dead animals better than Cain's fruits and vegetables. Why? Well, no reason is given, but it probably has something to do with the amount of pain, blood, and gore involved. 4:3-5 2. Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables, Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8 3. God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17 4. God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4 5. God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. 7:21-23 6. Noah kills the "clean beasts" and burns their dead bodies for God. According to 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all "clean" animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark. "And the Lord smelled a sweet savor." 8:20 7. To free Lot from captivity, Abram sends an army of slaves to pursue and smite his captors. 14:14-15 8. God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10 9. Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled." 16:6 10. Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Pet.2:7-8. 19:7-8 11. God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family. 19:24 12. God threatens to kill Abimelech and his people for believing Abe's lie. 20:3-7 13. God orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat to kill instead. 22:2-13 14. Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and t

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              Moron, we all know there is violence in the Old Testament. but it is the New Testament that is the basis of Christianity. Most of the Mohammed's knowledge came from Christain missioneries and the Bible. He thought many parts of the Bible are not acceptable, especially the Crucifixion of Christ, because they did not suit his ideas about God. So he came up with his own book. He thought the Bible was perverted because of the translations etc. If we apply his own logic to Koran, it is much more perverted because he lived six hundred years after the Crucifixion and perverted everything about Jesus, someone who he had no knowledge of except what he knew from the Bible. So start your islamic name calling.

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              Farhan Noor Qureshi
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              Anonymous wrote:

              So start your islamic name calling.

              "And it came about when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him... Then the Lord said to Cain, 'Where is Abel your brother?' And he said, 'I do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?' And He said, 'What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying to Me from the ground. And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand.'" Genesis 4:8-11 "Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David's hand. Then David ran and stood over the Philistine and took his sword and drew it out of its sheath and killed him, and cut off his head with it." 1 Samuel 17:50-51 "Is this not David, of whom they sing in the dances saying, 'Saul has slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands'?" 1 Samuel 29:5 "Now it came about in the morning that David wrote a letter to Joab, and sent it by the hand of Uriah. And he had written in the letter, saying 'Place Uriah at the front line of the fiercest battle and withdraw from him, so that he may be struck down and die.' So it was as Joab kept watch on the city, that he put Uriah at the place where he knew there were valiant men. And the men of the city went out and fought against Joab and some of the people among David's servants fell; and Uriah the Hittite also died." 2 Samuel 11:14-17 "And I will set My jealousy against you, that they may deal with you in wrath. They will remove your nose and your ears; and your survivors will fall by the sword. They will take your sons and your daughters; and your survivors will be consumed by the fire." Ezekiel 23:25 "And behold, one of those where were with Jesus reached and drew out his sword, and struck the slave of the high priest, and cut off his ear." Matthew 26:51 "And when Herod saw that he had been tricked by the magi, he became very enraged, and sent and slew all the male children who were in Bethlehem and in all its environs, from two years old and under...." Matthew 2:16 "And all flesh that moved on the earth perished, birds and cattle and beasts and every swarming thing that swarmed upon the earth, and all mankind; of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath o

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              • F Farhan Noor Qureshi

                Genesis 1. God likes Abel's dead animals better than Cain's fruits and vegetables. Why? Well, no reason is given, but it probably has something to do with the amount of pain, blood, and gore involved. 4:3-5 2. Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables, Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8 3. God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17 4. God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4 5. God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. 7:21-23 6. Noah kills the "clean beasts" and burns their dead bodies for God. According to 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all "clean" animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark. "And the Lord smelled a sweet savor." 8:20 7. To free Lot from captivity, Abram sends an army of slaves to pursue and smite his captors. 14:14-15 8. God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10 9. Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled." 16:6 10. Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Pet.2:7-8. 19:7-8 11. God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family. 19:24 12. God threatens to kill Abimelech and his people for believing Abe's lie. 20:3-7 13. God orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat to kill instead. 22:2-13 14. Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and t

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                I guess you missed the earlier points made: 1) The Old Testament was NULLED by the New Testament and the coming of Christ, 2) Genesis is part of the Old Testament, 3) No one here gives a rat shit what you believe, we just care about the murder you creatures do in the name of your god and your religion. get over it. as long as you refuse to condem the shit your brothers are doing (murdering innocents, purposefully) you'll be universally despised. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon

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                  I guess you missed the earlier points made: 1) The Old Testament was NULLED by the New Testament and the coming of Christ, 2) Genesis is part of the Old Testament, 3) No one here gives a rat shit what you believe, we just care about the murder you creatures do in the name of your god and your religion. get over it. as long as you refuse to condem the shit your brothers are doing (murdering innocents, purposefully) you'll be universally despised. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon

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                  :sigh: Mike, I agree with your sentiment, but I had thought you were a better person than to start throwing around racial insults like that. 1


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                    :sigh: Mike, I agree with your sentiment, but I had thought you were a better person than to start throwing around racial insults like that. 1


                    "You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 "Obviously ???  You're definitely a superstar!!!" - mYkel - 21 Jun '04 "There's not enough blatant self-congratulatory backslapping in the world today..." - HumblePie - 21 Jun '05 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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                    Mike Gaskey
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                    PJ Arends wrote:

                    but I had thought you were a better person than to start throwing around racial insults like that.

                    you're right. my apologies to all. I guess I'm getting frustrated. Instead of "them" saying Islam is great, everyone should investigate it, but we have some bad apples at the moment - all you see or hear is a counter attack saying, "look what you thought a 1,000 years ago". It is more than frustrating when you understand that the USA and friends have been under attack with thousands killed and we have some jerk living in the USA (citizen or not) who is spouting off that crap. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon

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                    • M Mike Gaskey

                      I guess you missed the earlier points made: 1) The Old Testament was NULLED by the New Testament and the coming of Christ, 2) Genesis is part of the Old Testament, 3) No one here gives a rat shit what you believe, we just care about the murder you creatures do in the name of your god and your religion. get over it. as long as you refuse to condem the shit your brothers are doing (murdering innocents, purposefully) you'll be universally despised. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon

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                      Farhan Noor Qureshi
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                      Matthew # Those who bear bad fruit will be cut down and burned "with unquenchable fire." 3:10, 12 # Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. 5:17 # Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 5:29-30 # Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14 # "the children of the kingdom [the Jews] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 8:12 # Jesus tells a man who had just lost his father: "Let the dead bury the dead." 8:21 # Jesus sends some devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the waters below. 8:32 # Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen.19:24). 10:14-15 # Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21 # Jesus says that we should fear God who is willing and "able to destroy both soul and body in hell." 10:28 # Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." 10:34-36 # Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. 11:20-24 # Jesus will send his angels to gather up "all that offend" and they "shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 13:41-42, 50 # Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: "He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) So, does Jesus think that children who curse their parents should be killed? It sure sounds like it. 15:4-7 # Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." 18:8-9 # In the parable of the

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