Scooter Libby's very popular book
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I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone in here mention this before... http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/07/libby.novel.reut/index.html[^] From the article: "Wow, who would have thought that clean living, family values man Scooter Libby was capable of writing such filth," said one reviewer on Amazon. Another Amazon reviewer noted its "lavish dollops of voyeurism, bestiality, pedophilia and corpse robbery." A snippet from Libby's book that is not listed in the article: At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest. :omg::wtf::omg: To each his own, I guess. :~ -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone in here mention this before... http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/07/libby.novel.reut/index.html[^] From the article: "Wow, who would have thought that clean living, family values man Scooter Libby was capable of writing such filth," said one reviewer on Amazon. Another Amazon reviewer noted its "lavish dollops of voyeurism, bestiality, pedophilia and corpse robbery." A snippet from Libby's book that is not listed in the article: At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest. :omg::wtf::omg: To each his own, I guess. :~ -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
Which, ironically, makes it the only porn ever criticized by the left. So, apprently, they do have standards after all! Otherwise, it would be required reading for grade schoolers around the country. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone in here mention this before... http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/07/libby.novel.reut/index.html[^] From the article: "Wow, who would have thought that clean living, family values man Scooter Libby was capable of writing such filth," said one reviewer on Amazon. Another Amazon reviewer noted its "lavish dollops of voyeurism, bestiality, pedophilia and corpse robbery." A snippet from Libby's book that is not listed in the article: At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest. :omg::wtf::omg: To each his own, I guess. :~ -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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Which, ironically, makes it the only porn ever criticized by the left. So, apprently, they do have standards after all! Otherwise, it would be required reading for grade schoolers around the country. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Is it the porn that is criticized or the hypocrisy that is being criticized? I really don't care if someone writes porn all day, every day, but if that person also says that they are for family values while writing about 10 year old girls being intimate with trained bears.... that's a little messed up. -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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Is it the porn that is criticized or the hypocrisy that is being criticized? I really don't care if someone writes porn all day, every day, but if that person also says that they are for family values while writing about 10 year old girls being intimate with trained bears.... that's a little messed up. -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
If you'll check, I'm sure you will discover that Libby is not an elected official I doubt that he has ever made a public statement about 'family values' that he has any need to defend. In any case, the hypocrisy is entirely on the other foot. I think an adult book written for adults is perfectly ok to any family values proponent. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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If you'll check, I'm sure you will discover that Libby is not an elected official I doubt that he has ever made a public statement about 'family values' that he has any need to defend. In any case, the hypocrisy is entirely on the other foot. I think an adult book written for adults is perfectly ok to any family values proponent. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote:
If you'll check, I'm sure you will discover that Libby is not an elected official I doubt that he has ever made a public statement about 'family values' that he has any need to defend.
I'm sorry, I was making a blanket assumption much like the ones that you impose on the "lefties."
Stan Shannon wrote:
I think an adult book written for adults is perfectly ok to any family values proponent.
My main issue is with adult books that talk about children having sex with animals. If it was adults with animals, I would still think that's weird, but wouldn't care so much. -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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Stan Shannon wrote:
If you'll check, I'm sure you will discover that Libby is not an elected official I doubt that he has ever made a public statement about 'family values' that he has any need to defend.
I'm sorry, I was making a blanket assumption much like the ones that you impose on the "lefties."
Stan Shannon wrote:
I think an adult book written for adults is perfectly ok to any family values proponent.
My main issue is with adult books that talk about children having sex with animals. If it was adults with animals, I would still think that's weird, but wouldn't care so much. -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
jasontg wrote:
I'm sorry, I was making a blanket assumption much like the ones that you impose on the "lefties."
You should leave that to the experts. :laugh:
jasontg wrote:
My main issue is with adult books that talk about children having sex with animals. If it was adults with animals, I would still think that's weird, but wouldn't care so much.
I'm certainly no expert on the time and place he was writing about, but if it was well researched and reflected a reality that actually occured and was not merely gratuitous I frankly have no problem with it. How do you know that stuff like that didn't actually happen? Maybe it was some kind of ancient custom of that culture. :~ "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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In looking for quotes from one book, I ran across a few others... http://www.newyorker.com/printables/talk/051107ta_talk_collins[^] From the article: Libby has a lot to live up to as a conservative author of erotic fiction. As an article in SPY magazine pointed out in 1988, from Safire (“[She] finally came to him in the bed and shouted ‘Arragghrrorwr!’ in his ear, bit his neck, plunged her head between his legs and devoured him”) to Buckley (“I’d rather do this with you than play cards”) to Liddy (“T’sa Li froze, her lips still enclosing Rand’s glans . . .”) to Ehrlichman (“ ‘It felt like a little tongue’ ”) to O’Reilly (“Okay, Shannon Michaels, off with those pants”), extracurricular creative writing has long been an outlet for ideas that might not fly at, say, the National Prayer Breakfast. In one of Lynne Cheney’s books, a Republican vice-president dies of a heart attack while having sex with his mistress. ...‘Arragghrrorwr!’...:laugh: -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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In looking for quotes from one book, I ran across a few others... http://www.newyorker.com/printables/talk/051107ta_talk_collins[^] From the article: Libby has a lot to live up to as a conservative author of erotic fiction. As an article in SPY magazine pointed out in 1988, from Safire (“[She] finally came to him in the bed and shouted ‘Arragghrrorwr!’ in his ear, bit his neck, plunged her head between his legs and devoured him”) to Buckley (“I’d rather do this with you than play cards”) to Liddy (“T’sa Li froze, her lips still enclosing Rand’s glans . . .”) to Ehrlichman (“ ‘It felt like a little tongue’ ”) to O’Reilly (“Okay, Shannon Michaels, off with those pants”), extracurricular creative writing has long been an outlet for ideas that might not fly at, say, the National Prayer Breakfast. In one of Lynne Cheney’s books, a Republican vice-president dies of a heart attack while having sex with his mistress. ...‘Arragghrrorwr!’...:laugh: -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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jasontg wrote:
I'm sorry, I was making a blanket assumption much like the ones that you impose on the "lefties."
You should leave that to the experts. :laugh:
jasontg wrote:
My main issue is with adult books that talk about children having sex with animals. If it was adults with animals, I would still think that's weird, but wouldn't care so much.
I'm certainly no expert on the time and place he was writing about, but if it was well researched and reflected a reality that actually occured and was not merely gratuitous I frankly have no problem with it. How do you know that stuff like that didn't actually happen? Maybe it was some kind of ancient custom of that culture. :~ "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote:
I'm certainly no expert on the time and place he was writing about, but if it was well researched and reflected a reality that actually occured and was not merely gratuitous I frankly have no problem with it.
I'm not about to spend $700+ dollars to read it and find out, but it does say something about being set in 1903 rural Japan. Some things do require a certain bit of imagination, I believe. From a review of the book: Homoeroticism and incest also figure as themes. The main female character, Yukiko, draws hair on the “mound” of a little girl. The brothers of a dead samurai have sex with his daughter. Many things glisten (mouths, hair, evergreens), quiver (a “pink underlip,” arm muscles, legs), and are sniffed (floorboards, sheets, fingers). The cast includes a dwarf, and an “assistant headman” who comes to restore order after a crime at the inn.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Maybe it was some kind of ancient custom of that culture.
I have heard of worse. X| -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I'm certainly no expert on the time and place he was writing about, but if it was well researched and reflected a reality that actually occured and was not merely gratuitous I frankly have no problem with it.
I'm not about to spend $700+ dollars to read it and find out, but it does say something about being set in 1903 rural Japan. Some things do require a certain bit of imagination, I believe. From a review of the book: Homoeroticism and incest also figure as themes. The main female character, Yukiko, draws hair on the “mound” of a little girl. The brothers of a dead samurai have sex with his daughter. Many things glisten (mouths, hair, evergreens), quiver (a “pink underlip,” arm muscles, legs), and are sniffed (floorboards, sheets, fingers). The cast includes a dwarf, and an “assistant headman” who comes to restore order after a crime at the inn.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Maybe it was some kind of ancient custom of that culture.
I have heard of worse. X| -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
I have no intention of reading it either, but for all I know the guy is the world's leading expert on the sexual habits of early 20th century, rural japanese. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone in here mention this before... http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/07/libby.novel.reut/index.html[^] From the article: "Wow, who would have thought that clean living, family values man Scooter Libby was capable of writing such filth," said one reviewer on Amazon. Another Amazon reviewer noted its "lavish dollops of voyeurism, bestiality, pedophilia and corpse robbery." A snippet from Libby's book that is not listed in the article: At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest. :omg::wtf::omg: To each his own, I guess. :~ -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
Not much of a writer, either.