Islamists demand Bangladeshi women wear veil
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:wtf: Did you read the article? They want to FORCE ALL WOMEN. Musilum and Non-Muslium. I'm sure in free countries, like the US, Britian, Turkey, that women do wear it out of conviction only. But that has nothing to do with the article.
Ya I read the article, and what I said still stands.
Quran IslamWeb (IE only) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
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Ya I read the article, and what I said still stands.
Quran IslamWeb (IE only) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
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I dunno. A.A: "And I'm waiting for you to extrapolate this to say that Muslim women throughout the world don't wear the headscarf out of conviction rather because they were forced and threatened. " You: "Did you read the article? They want to FORCE ALL WOMEN. Musilum and Non-Muslium. I'm sure in free countries, like the US, Britian, Turkey, that women do wear it out of conviction only. But that has nothing to do with the article." -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.
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I dunno. A.A: "And I'm waiting for you to extrapolate this to say that Muslim women throughout the world don't wear the headscarf out of conviction rather because they were forced and threatened. " You: "Did you read the article? They want to FORCE ALL WOMEN. Musilum and Non-Muslium. I'm sure in free countries, like the US, Britian, Turkey, that women do wear it out of conviction only. But that has nothing to do with the article." -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.
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If you are going to argue successfully, don't fall into the strawman trap. It may work against your opponent, as they are likely to be emotional. For the observers however, the strawman will not look too impressive. Since A.A.'s remark was clearly an ad hominem attack (unfounded or not), you should've defended yourself by saying "why are you attacking me, instead of my arguments?". Then you would definately have "won points" in the eyes of the observers, and you would also have made the opponent aware of his mistake, which gives you a psychological advantage. :) -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.
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If you are going to argue successfully, don't fall into the strawman trap. It may work against your opponent, as they are likely to be emotional. For the observers however, the strawman will not look too impressive. Since A.A.'s remark was clearly an ad hominem attack (unfounded or not), you should've defended yourself by saying "why are you attacking me, instead of my arguments?". Then you would definately have "won points" in the eyes of the observers, and you would also have made the opponent aware of his mistake, which gives you a psychological advantage. :) -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.
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The real test will be how the Bangladesh government responds to these ultimatums. Posting additional security guards only, seems a bit defeatist. If theses pieces of human flotsam are threatening the lives of private citizens then immediate action should be taken. Round up every one of the jackasses that you know about; go on the offensive and not wait for them murder somebody. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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And I'm waiting for you to extrapolate this to say that Muslim women throughout the world don't wear the headscarf out of conviction rather because they were forced and threatened.
Quran IslamWeb (IE only) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
A.A. wrote:
Muslim women throughout the world don't wear the headscarf out of conviction rather because they were forced and threatened.
Actually, I believe that a good number of them are socially forced to wear it.
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:wtf: Did you read the article? They want to FORCE ALL WOMEN. Musilum and Non-Muslium. I'm sure in free countries, like the US, Britian, Turkey, that women do wear it out of conviction only. But that has nothing to do with the article.
kgaddy wrote:
I'm sure in free countries, like the US, Britian, Turkey, that women do wear it out of conviction only.
Not necessary. I believe that even in the US, UK etc. there are Muslim women who have to wear it even if they don't really want to.
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The real test will be how the Bangladesh government responds to these ultimatums. Posting additional security guards only, seems a bit defeatist. If theses pieces of human flotsam are threatening the lives of private citizens then immediate action should be taken. Round up every one of the jackasses that you know about; go on the offensive and not wait for them murder somebody. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
Chris Austin wrote:
The real test will be how the Bangladesh government responds to these ultimatums.
Perhaps they should ask Military help from India.
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Chris Austin wrote:
The real test will be how the Bangladesh government responds to these ultimatums.
Perhaps they should ask Military help from India.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Perhaps they should ask Military help from India.
Please forgive my ignorance. But, do you think that will stand well with the people of Bangladesh? Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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A.A. wrote:
Muslim women throughout the world don't wear the headscarf out of conviction rather because they were forced and threatened.
Actually, I believe that a good number of them are socially forced to wear it.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Actually, I believe that a good number of them are socially forced to wear it.
You are wrong. Most, I repeat, most women wear Islamic headscarfs because they choose to. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Actually, I believe that a good number of them are socially forced to wear it.
You are wrong. Most, I repeat, most women wear Islamic headscarfs because they choose to. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
I guess we'll just have to wait for a few headscarf-wearing women to reply and clear things up... :rolleyes:
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Chris Austin wrote:
The real test will be how the Bangladesh government responds to these ultimatums.
Perhaps they should ask Military help from India.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Perhaps they should ask Military help from India.
Or Martians? Nishant, do you think that the subcontinent can handle another military-based "solution"? Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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I guess we'll just have to wait for a few headscarf-wearing women to reply and clear things up... :rolleyes:
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I wonder how many of them visit soapbox on CP :-D Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Actually, I believe that a good number of them are socially forced to wear it.
You are wrong. Most, I repeat, most women wear Islamic headscarfs because they choose to. Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
You are wrong. Most, I repeat, most women wear Islamic headscarfs because they choose to.
Admittedly, I don't know as many Muslim women as you might, but I have known quite a few Muslim women (online) who have told me that they had married US-working men and moved abroad to avoid having to live in a strict society. Farhan, I am not attacking your religion, I am an atheist and I don't particularly think much of any of the existing world religions, but I strongly feel about women having to cover their faces with veils. Last month, we saw a young girl (maybe 16 or 17) who got into a bus with her mother and both of them were fully covered in a black material (I think that you call it the Purdah-Burkha, not sure) - and to be honest, it was a scary sight!
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Perhaps they should ask Military help from India.
Please forgive my ignorance. But, do you think that will stand well with the people of Bangladesh? Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
Chris Austin wrote:
Please forgive my ignorance. But, do you think that will stand well with the people of Bangladesh?
They may not like it, but if it will help several helpless women, it is something that should be considered.
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I wonder how many of them visit soapbox on CP :-D Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;
Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:
I wonder how many of them visit soapbox on CP
It's hard to type on a keyboard if 3/4th of your face is masked ;P