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  • M Mirza Ghalib

    If they had planted evidence then they would have found what they planted. I don't believe they are that dumb.

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    Adnan Siddiqi
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    do you remember the REASON of US ,getting into MiddleEast,when iraq attacked on Kuwait,they are not using some INVISIBLE armed force..how coudn`t US find that iraqis are approaching towards Kuwait?

    Mirza Ghalib wrote:

    I don't believe they are that dumb

    the 2003 iraq war was based on false intelligence,a man went on false info and faced embarassment why are you willing to deny that it wasn`t matter of Saddam only?you talk about kurds,a LOT more muslims have been killed in current invasion than kurds.Gasing kurds is nothing but a lame excuse,alot of muslims are suffering in other part of worlds too,why dont US invade Israel on killing of palestinians..why not Kashmiri ppl are saved from Indian army violence US Administration don`t show sympathy for muslims..even bush himself admitted that Muslim world(specially arabs have haterd against USA),there would be rason for that?why not same feelings are found for Italians or others? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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    • I Imtiaz Murtaza

      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

      would rather consider it for sake of israel protection..t

      As well as **Oil** protection :laugh: Imtiaz

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      Adnan Siddiqi
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      i dont thnk it was matter of oil..somewhat iraqi oik was being transferred to israel by other means(AFAIK) MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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        A good point - Saddam is respinsible for the deaths of somewhere between 1 and 2 million mulsims! This includes the Iran-Iraq war which he instigated. The tigress is here :-D

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        Trollslayer wrote:

        This includes the Iran-Iraq war which he instigated.

        sweety,saddam was US ally during iran-iraq war do u think iraq was capble to expand war for sveeral years against without any AID? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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        • A Adnan Siddiqi

          do you remember the REASON of US ,getting into MiddleEast,when iraq attacked on Kuwait,they are not using some INVISIBLE armed force..how coudn`t US find that iraqis are approaching towards Kuwait?

          Mirza Ghalib wrote:

          I don't believe they are that dumb

          the 2003 iraq war was based on false intelligence,a man went on false info and faced embarassment why are you willing to deny that it wasn`t matter of Saddam only?you talk about kurds,a LOT more muslims have been killed in current invasion than kurds.Gasing kurds is nothing but a lame excuse,alot of muslims are suffering in other part of worlds too,why dont US invade Israel on killing of palestinians..why not Kashmiri ppl are saved from Indian army violence US Administration don`t show sympathy for muslims..even bush himself admitted that Muslim world(specially arabs have haterd against USA),there would be rason for that?why not same feelings are found for Italians or others? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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          Mirza Ghalib
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          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

          US Administration don`t show sympathy for muslims

          That may be true. But it isn't because they hate Muslims, it's because they are too busy pursuing their own interests. It isn't right to wage jihad on someone because he is too busy to help you.

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          • M Mirza Ghalib

            If they had planted evidence then they would have found what they planted. I don't believe they are that dumb.

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            Adnan Siddiqi
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            remember Bush discussd about Crusades[^],after 9/11 attack? if you read the date on article,its 16Sept,2001,5 days after attack..wondering how CIA found so fast about Osama and Co and coudn`t find WMD :> ? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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            • M Mirza Ghalib

              Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

              i would rather consider it for sake of israel protection..these days,iran is in Focus, and Iranian president is only threatening to israel(he`s an idiot,i must say).If Iran is attacked,the US won`t be responsible for it

              Israel has the capability to deliver a devastating pre-emptive strike if ever it felt that an attack was imminent. So, the 'protecting Israel' argument does not hold much water. It was more protecting Saudi and Kuwait. I don't see anything anti-Islamic here. Maybe all of this was prompted by a hunger for oil. So what ? I don't see anything anti-Islamic in a hunger for oil. Do you ?

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              Mirza Ghalib wrote:

              Israel has the capability to deliver a devastating pre-emptive strike if ever it felt that an attack was immine

              do u think jews/zions are so dumb thaty they play on front?Imagine israel attack on a muslim country,52 islamic states ppl would produce enough anger to force a Muslim state to go agains Israel and ultimately USA.. USA don`t want it..why do israel come in front when Big Daddy is around? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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              • A Adnan Siddiqi

                Trollslayer wrote:

                This includes the Iran-Iraq war which he instigated.

                sweety,saddam was US ally during iran-iraq war do u think iraq was capble to expand war for sveeral years against without any AID? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                Maximilien
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                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                sweety,

                :laugh: are you going to get it !!!

                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                do u think iraq was capble to expand war for sveeral years against without any AID?

                As were the iranians who were financed by the USSR. AFAI(Understand), the Iran-Iraq was a war between the USA and USSR with proxy.


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                • A Adnan Siddiqi

                  remember Bush discussd about Crusades[^],after 9/11 attack? if you read the date on article,its 16Sept,2001,5 days after attack..wondering how CIA found so fast about Osama and Co and coudn`t find WMD :> ? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                  Mirza Ghalib
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                  Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                  remember Bush discussd about Crusades[^],after 9/11 attack?

                  The word Crusade has two meanings

                  MW Dictionary

                  Main Entry: 1cru·sade Pronunciation: krü-'sAd Function: noun Etymology: blend of Middle French croisade & Spanish cruzada; both ultimately from Latin cruc-, crux cross 1 capitalized : any of the military expeditions undertaken by Christian powers in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries to win the Holy Land from the Muslims 2 : a remedial enterprise undertaken with zeal and enthusiasm

                  He meant the second one. Re the real crusade : Almost all of the lands the crusades were fought over are in Israel now.

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                  • M Maximilien

                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    sweety,

                    :laugh: are you going to get it !!!

                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    do u think iraq was capble to expand war for sveeral years against without any AID?

                    As were the iranians who were financed by the USSR. AFAI(Understand), the Iran-Iraq was a war between the USA and USSR with proxy.


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                    Stan Shannon
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                    Maximilien wrote:

                    AFAI(Understand), the Iran-Iraq was a war between the USA and USSR with proxy

                    The choices that the US faced - (a) standing by and letting the USSR control the middle east, along with the rest of the planet, or (b) resorting to a full scale nuclear exchange with the soviets or (c) supporting anti-sovient madmen as proxies against pro-soviet proxies - all seem to be lost on people. The Islamic world owes its very existence to the west, especially the US. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."

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                    • A Adnan Siddiqi

                      Mirza Ghalib wrote:

                      Israel has the capability to deliver a devastating pre-emptive strike if ever it felt that an attack was immine

                      do u think jews/zions are so dumb thaty they play on front?Imagine israel attack on a muslim country,52 islamic states ppl would produce enough anger to force a Muslim state to go agains Israel and ultimately USA.. USA don`t want it..why do israel come in front when Big Daddy is around? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                      Mirza Ghalib
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                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      Imagine israel attack on a muslim country,52 islamic states ppl would produce enough anger to force a Muslim state to go agains Israel and ultimately USA..

                      They have fought two wars before.

                      From Wikipedia :

                      On May 14, 1948, before the expiring of the British Mandate of Palestine on midnight of the May 15, 1948, the State of Israel was proclaimed. The surrounding Arab states supported the Palestinian Arabs in rejecting both the Partition Plan and the establishment of Israel, and the armies of six Arab nations attacked the State of Israel. Over the next 15 months Israel captured an additional 26% of the Mandate territory west of the Jordan river and annexed it to the new state. Most of the Arab population fled or were expelled during the war. The continuing conflict between Israel and the Arab world resulted in a lasting displacement that persists to this day.

                      The first one was fought when their country was one day old. This country has been around now for more than 50 years. They must have grown some since then.

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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        Maximilien wrote:

                        AFAI(Understand), the Iran-Iraq was a war between the USA and USSR with proxy

                        The choices that the US faced - (a) standing by and letting the USSR control the middle east, along with the rest of the planet, or (b) resorting to a full scale nuclear exchange with the soviets or (c) supporting anti-sovient madmen as proxies against pro-soviet proxies - all seem to be lost on people. The Islamic world owes its very existence to the west, especially the US. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."

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                        legalAlien
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                        Well said. He seems to be so poisoned by his own anti-US/Israel hatred that he fails to see it has nothing to do with Islam. It is sad that so many people have had to die for reasons that many of us can't or don't understand. But you really can't expect a government to divulge everything ti knows prior to a war: perhaps the WMD etc was deliberate misdirection. In the meantime while there are hateful little muslims around like Adnan Siddiqi nothing will change.

                        turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice

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                        • M Mirza Ghalib

                          From a newspaper article :

                          Some Britain-based young Muslims have described themselves as feeling "betrayed" by Britain's decision to take part in the American-led invasion of Iraq.

                          Saddam's (Baath Party) was a secular Arab Nationalist regime. America's first attack on Iraq was to free Kuwait, a conservative Islamic country. If the first attack wasn't seen as anti-Islam, why is the second one seen as anti-Islam ?

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          Mirza Ghalib wrote:

                          Why is the Iraq invasion seen as anti-Islamic?

                          Cause Saddam Hussain is an Islamic name. Now if he was called Johnny Brown or something, it'd have been a regular war :-)

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                            Mirza Ghalib wrote:

                            Why is the Iraq invasion seen as anti-Islamic?

                            Cause Saddam Hussain is an Islamic name. Now if he was called Johnny Brown or something, it'd have been a regular war :-)

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                            So the next US president should call himself abdulla al america bin USA ??? :P

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                            • R Rutger Ellen

                              So the next US president should call himself abdulla al america bin USA ??? :P

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                              Rutger Ellen wrote:

                              So the next US president should call himself abdulla al america bin USA ???

                              What the US needs to do, to confirm with its own elated standards of political correctness, is to have as its next President, a Muslim woman of African and Asian lineage, who is also gay. Then the rest of the world will have to shut up for 4 years :-D

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                                So the next US president should call himself abdulla al america bin USA ??? :P

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                                Mirza Ghalib
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                                Rutger Ellen wrote:

                                So the next US president should call himself abdulla al america bin USA ???

                                And look like this ? :-D

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                                • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                  Mirza Ghalib wrote:

                                  When a Kurd is gassed by Saddams regime isn't a Muslim.

                                  do i need to remind you that Saddam and Osama ,both were darling of US like Musharraf in 21st century? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                  What on earth does your reply have to do with his question? :confused: Really, you want to continue the discussion, stay on topic. This is not the place to flex your non sequitur muscles. Cheers, Vikram.


                                  "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.

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                                  • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                    Mirza Ghalib wrote:

                                    When a Kurd is gassed by Saddams regime isn't a Muslim.

                                    do i need to remind you that Saddam and Osama ,both were darling of US like Musharraf in 21st century? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                    What on earth does your reply have to do with his question? :confused: Really, you want to continue the discussion, stay on topic. This is not the place to flex your non sequitur muscles. Cheers, Vikram.


                                    "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.

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                                    • M Maximilien

                                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                      sweety,

                                      :laugh: are you going to get it !!!

                                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                      do u think iraq was capble to expand war for sveeral years against without any AID?

                                      As were the iranians who were financed by the USSR. AFAI(Understand), the Iran-Iraq was a war between the USA and USSR with proxy.


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                                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                      Maximilien wrote:

                                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                      sweety,

                                      are you going to get it !!!

                                      I've seen Adnans spelling. It could've been worse! ;) -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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                                      • M Mirza Ghalib

                                        Rutger Ellen wrote:

                                        So the next US president should call himself abdulla al america bin USA ???

                                        And look like this ? :-D

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                                        Would he have to deliver a "State of the Union Fatwah"? Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

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                                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                          What on earth does your reply have to do with his question? :confused: Really, you want to continue the discussion, stay on topic. This is not the place to flex your non sequitur muscles. Cheers, Vikram.


                                          "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.

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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          Psssssssst, duplicate post :-D

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