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    Marc Clifton
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    To all you heathens and Christians! :-D Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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      To all you heathens and Christians! :-D Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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        To all you heathens and Christians! :-D Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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        and Peace on Earth [^]!


        Tiefe Wasser sind nicht still Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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          To all you heathens and Christians! :-D Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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          Ian Darling
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          Merry $HOLIDAY to you all too! :-D BTW, if "$HOLIDAY" appears instead of "Christmas" or "Kwanzaa", you haven't setup holidays.ini properly, so you can't be taking it seriously at all ;P


          Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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            Merry $HOLIDAY to you all too! :-D BTW, if "$HOLIDAY" appears instead of "Christmas" or "Kwanzaa", you haven't setup holidays.ini properly, so you can't be taking it seriously at all ;P


            Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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            Ian Darling wrote:

            Kwanzaa

            Funny you should mention that. I was going to ask about Kwanzaa here on CP. My girlfriend, who works at a daycare, got some information on it. I found it unsettling: it is important to note Kwanzaa is a cultural holiday, not a religious one, thus available to and practiced by Africans of all religious faiths who come together based on the rich, ancient and varied common ground of their Africanness. -- from here.[^] It struck me as a socio-economic value system. Clearly it doesn't have any spiritual basis. I found myself wondering, is this a portent of the future? Kwanzaa is 40 years old this coming year, but seems that the trend is to strip off the spiritual essence from traditional Christian values, leaving a shell of ethical codes. Speaking for myself (and realizing others disagree), I have never been able to separate out spirituality from morality/ethics. The two seem to go hand in hand. Thus, Kwanzaa leaves me feeling very unsettled. Thoughts? How well-adopted is Kwanzaa in Africa? I always viewed Africans as rather spiritual human beings, I wonder how they feel about Kwanzaa? Does it help unite people that would otherwise be at each others throats? Is it a real force in Africa? Or has it been reduced to lipservice, used by local politicians to gain emotional favor among the disenfranchised? Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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              Kwanzaa

              Funny you should mention that. I was going to ask about Kwanzaa here on CP. My girlfriend, who works at a daycare, got some information on it. I found it unsettling: it is important to note Kwanzaa is a cultural holiday, not a religious one, thus available to and practiced by Africans of all religious faiths who come together based on the rich, ancient and varied common ground of their Africanness. -- from here.[^] It struck me as a socio-economic value system. Clearly it doesn't have any spiritual basis. I found myself wondering, is this a portent of the future? Kwanzaa is 40 years old this coming year, but seems that the trend is to strip off the spiritual essence from traditional Christian values, leaving a shell of ethical codes. Speaking for myself (and realizing others disagree), I have never been able to separate out spirituality from morality/ethics. The two seem to go hand in hand. Thus, Kwanzaa leaves me feeling very unsettled. Thoughts? How well-adopted is Kwanzaa in Africa? I always viewed Africans as rather spiritual human beings, I wonder how they feel about Kwanzaa? Does it help unite people that would otherwise be at each others throats? Is it a real force in Africa? Or has it been reduced to lipservice, used by local politicians to gain emotional favor among the disenfranchised? Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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              Marc Clifton wrote:

              Funny you should mention that. I was going to ask about Kwanzaa here on CP. My girlfriend, who works at a daycare, got some information on it. I found it unsettling:

              Well, the only time I've ever heard of it was on Futurama. I thought it was some wacky American thing :-)


              Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                Ian Darling wrote:

                Kwanzaa

                Funny you should mention that. I was going to ask about Kwanzaa here on CP. My girlfriend, who works at a daycare, got some information on it. I found it unsettling: it is important to note Kwanzaa is a cultural holiday, not a religious one, thus available to and practiced by Africans of all religious faiths who come together based on the rich, ancient and varied common ground of their Africanness. -- from here.[^] It struck me as a socio-economic value system. Clearly it doesn't have any spiritual basis. I found myself wondering, is this a portent of the future? Kwanzaa is 40 years old this coming year, but seems that the trend is to strip off the spiritual essence from traditional Christian values, leaving a shell of ethical codes. Speaking for myself (and realizing others disagree), I have never been able to separate out spirituality from morality/ethics. The two seem to go hand in hand. Thus, Kwanzaa leaves me feeling very unsettled. Thoughts? How well-adopted is Kwanzaa in Africa? I always viewed Africans as rather spiritual human beings, I wonder how they feel about Kwanzaa? Does it help unite people that would otherwise be at each others throats? Is it a real force in Africa? Or has it been reduced to lipservice, used by local politicians to gain emotional favor among the disenfranchised? Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                If US-style Kwanzaa celebration existed traditionally in Africa, this will be the first time i've heard it. I was under the impression that it originated in the US, celebrated primarily by people dissatisfied with the holidays - as such, secularity is pretty much core. See also: Festivus...

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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  Funny you should mention that. I was going to ask about Kwanzaa here on CP. My girlfriend, who works at a daycare, got some information on it. I found it unsettling:

                  Well, the only time I've ever heard of it was on Futurama. I thought it was some wacky American thing :-)


                  Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                  Origins of Kwanzaa "we must lose precision to make significant statements about complex systems." -deKorvin on uncertainty

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    Funny you should mention that. I was going to ask about Kwanzaa here on CP. My girlfriend, who works at a daycare, got some information on it. I found it unsettling:

                    Well, the only time I've ever heard of it was on Futurama. I thought it was some wacky American thing :-)


                    Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                    Ian Darling wrote:

                    I thought it was some wacky American thing

                    And right you were! "Kwanzaa was created in 1966 by Dr. Maulana Karenga, professor, Department of Black Studies at California State University". Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

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                      Ian Darling wrote:

                      Kwanzaa

                      Funny you should mention that. I was going to ask about Kwanzaa here on CP. My girlfriend, who works at a daycare, got some information on it. I found it unsettling: it is important to note Kwanzaa is a cultural holiday, not a religious one, thus available to and practiced by Africans of all religious faiths who come together based on the rich, ancient and varied common ground of their Africanness. -- from here.[^] It struck me as a socio-economic value system. Clearly it doesn't have any spiritual basis. I found myself wondering, is this a portent of the future? Kwanzaa is 40 years old this coming year, but seems that the trend is to strip off the spiritual essence from traditional Christian values, leaving a shell of ethical codes. Speaking for myself (and realizing others disagree), I have never been able to separate out spirituality from morality/ethics. The two seem to go hand in hand. Thus, Kwanzaa leaves me feeling very unsettled. Thoughts? How well-adopted is Kwanzaa in Africa? I always viewed Africans as rather spiritual human beings, I wonder how they feel about Kwanzaa? Does it help unite people that would otherwise be at each others throats? Is it a real force in Africa? Or has it been reduced to lipservice, used by local politicians to gain emotional favor among the disenfranchised? Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                      I thought it was created by US blacks to help create a greater sense of community and instill the desire to inprove the "black economy" by reinvesting into black communities and buying from black merchants. BW


                      If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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                        and Peace on Earth [^]!


                        Tiefe Wasser sind nicht still Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Peace is war! ;)
                        -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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                          Peace is war! ;)
                          -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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                          KaRl
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                          Yeah, and Ignorance is Strength ;)


                          Tiefe Wasser sind nicht still Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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