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    I had to post this - I'm more than a little ticked about it. For reasons I won't go into, I haven't provided details, but... For six months we've had some database stuff which should have worked with both SQL Server and Oracle 9i. For reasons I'm not pretending to understand, no one in the company has ever tested that both versions work. I only have SQL Server on my machine, but others have Oracle. Maybe I should have sat for three hours and installed Oracle... Now, on the eve of a product release, I (solely) am about to get dumped on by my recently appointed manager for this. Now I accept that I should have tested it - but I shouldn't have been the only one doing so. I'd be more stressed except that I have already resigned (a couple of weeks previously, so this is my last month there), because I'd rather starve than work for someone I have less than zero respect for - IMO, his alleged development skills are overrated, and his man-management skills have yet to hit my radar. What really gets to me is this; I've worked my tail off for almost three years for this company, pulling all-nighters, working on stuff at home, digging other people out of their own mess, and basically, "going the extra mile". Yes, they paid me to do it, but I'm about to watch it all go down the pan as I get shafted and carry the can for the failure to ship on time. You might say I deserve it, but the truth is, the product set isn't even finished yet, there are guys working on it still, and making non-minor changes; my lack of testing doesn't even scratch the surface. It's lucky I'm leaving, or I'd probably flip and turn him into a stretcher-case, assuming of course, I could get to the head of the queue. Steve S On a lighter note, anyone looking for a decent VC++ developer with ATL/COM experience? I don't really bite while at work, well, not since 1983, anyway!!

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      I had to post this - I'm more than a little ticked about it. For reasons I won't go into, I haven't provided details, but... For six months we've had some database stuff which should have worked with both SQL Server and Oracle 9i. For reasons I'm not pretending to understand, no one in the company has ever tested that both versions work. I only have SQL Server on my machine, but others have Oracle. Maybe I should have sat for three hours and installed Oracle... Now, on the eve of a product release, I (solely) am about to get dumped on by my recently appointed manager for this. Now I accept that I should have tested it - but I shouldn't have been the only one doing so. I'd be more stressed except that I have already resigned (a couple of weeks previously, so this is my last month there), because I'd rather starve than work for someone I have less than zero respect for - IMO, his alleged development skills are overrated, and his man-management skills have yet to hit my radar. What really gets to me is this; I've worked my tail off for almost three years for this company, pulling all-nighters, working on stuff at home, digging other people out of their own mess, and basically, "going the extra mile". Yes, they paid me to do it, but I'm about to watch it all go down the pan as I get shafted and carry the can for the failure to ship on time. You might say I deserve it, but the truth is, the product set isn't even finished yet, there are guys working on it still, and making non-minor changes; my lack of testing doesn't even scratch the surface. It's lucky I'm leaving, or I'd probably flip and turn him into a stretcher-case, assuming of course, I could get to the head of the queue. Steve S On a lighter note, anyone looking for a decent VC++ developer with ATL/COM experience? I don't really bite while at work, well, not since 1983, anyway!!

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      Steve S wrote: Now I accept that I should have tested it When will most IT companies understand that without a dedicated team to test and check quality with an appropriate method, they will always be confronted to such problems? Steve S wrote: I (solely) am about to get dumped on by my recently appointed manager for this Steve S wrote: I'd be more stressed except that I have already resigned Aren't you used as a scapegoat there, and your new manager using this situation to save somebody's ass?


      Mais donnez-moi aussi Le courage et la force et la foi Car vous êtes le seul à donner Ce que l'on ne peut obtenir que de soi.

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        I had to post this - I'm more than a little ticked about it. For reasons I won't go into, I haven't provided details, but... For six months we've had some database stuff which should have worked with both SQL Server and Oracle 9i. For reasons I'm not pretending to understand, no one in the company has ever tested that both versions work. I only have SQL Server on my machine, but others have Oracle. Maybe I should have sat for three hours and installed Oracle... Now, on the eve of a product release, I (solely) am about to get dumped on by my recently appointed manager for this. Now I accept that I should have tested it - but I shouldn't have been the only one doing so. I'd be more stressed except that I have already resigned (a couple of weeks previously, so this is my last month there), because I'd rather starve than work for someone I have less than zero respect for - IMO, his alleged development skills are overrated, and his man-management skills have yet to hit my radar. What really gets to me is this; I've worked my tail off for almost three years for this company, pulling all-nighters, working on stuff at home, digging other people out of their own mess, and basically, "going the extra mile". Yes, they paid me to do it, but I'm about to watch it all go down the pan as I get shafted and carry the can for the failure to ship on time. You might say I deserve it, but the truth is, the product set isn't even finished yet, there are guys working on it still, and making non-minor changes; my lack of testing doesn't even scratch the surface. It's lucky I'm leaving, or I'd probably flip and turn him into a stretcher-case, assuming of course, I could get to the head of the queue. Steve S On a lighter note, anyone looking for a decent VC++ developer with ATL/COM experience? I don't really bite while at work, well, not since 1983, anyway!!

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        J-C L-F by any chance? So at long last, I found out "who was next"....shame it was you though Steve - but you know what they're like.... "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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          I had to post this - I'm more than a little ticked about it. For reasons I won't go into, I haven't provided details, but... For six months we've had some database stuff which should have worked with both SQL Server and Oracle 9i. For reasons I'm not pretending to understand, no one in the company has ever tested that both versions work. I only have SQL Server on my machine, but others have Oracle. Maybe I should have sat for three hours and installed Oracle... Now, on the eve of a product release, I (solely) am about to get dumped on by my recently appointed manager for this. Now I accept that I should have tested it - but I shouldn't have been the only one doing so. I'd be more stressed except that I have already resigned (a couple of weeks previously, so this is my last month there), because I'd rather starve than work for someone I have less than zero respect for - IMO, his alleged development skills are overrated, and his man-management skills have yet to hit my radar. What really gets to me is this; I've worked my tail off for almost three years for this company, pulling all-nighters, working on stuff at home, digging other people out of their own mess, and basically, "going the extra mile". Yes, they paid me to do it, but I'm about to watch it all go down the pan as I get shafted and carry the can for the failure to ship on time. You might say I deserve it, but the truth is, the product set isn't even finished yet, there are guys working on it still, and making non-minor changes; my lack of testing doesn't even scratch the surface. It's lucky I'm leaving, or I'd probably flip and turn him into a stretcher-case, assuming of course, I could get to the head of the queue. Steve S On a lighter note, anyone looking for a decent VC++ developer with ATL/COM experience? I don't really bite while at work, well, not since 1983, anyway!!

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          Can I suggest that you're scoring the blame BECAUSE you're leaving ? Although I thought usually they wait for the guy to leave before doing that... Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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            Can I suggest that you're scoring the blame BECAUSE you're leaving ? Although I thought usually they wait for the guy to leave before doing that... Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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            All of these are, of course, valid comments. I think my leaving is at the root of it. Apparently, I should have had my t&c's changed some time ago to convert me to a 3 month notice period, but no one got around to it, and they're a little sore - I did offer to contract for that period, but strangely, I wasn't taken up on it. I'm still looking - I know now how Jean-Luc Picard felt in "First Contact", when he became obsessive about the Borg, but my own version of Lily didn't even try to talk me down from my "The line must be drawn here" speech :) And by the way, Rich, you may think that, but I could not possibly comment ;) Steve S

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              I had to post this - I'm more than a little ticked about it. For reasons I won't go into, I haven't provided details, but... For six months we've had some database stuff which should have worked with both SQL Server and Oracle 9i. For reasons I'm not pretending to understand, no one in the company has ever tested that both versions work. I only have SQL Server on my machine, but others have Oracle. Maybe I should have sat for three hours and installed Oracle... Now, on the eve of a product release, I (solely) am about to get dumped on by my recently appointed manager for this. Now I accept that I should have tested it - but I shouldn't have been the only one doing so. I'd be more stressed except that I have already resigned (a couple of weeks previously, so this is my last month there), because I'd rather starve than work for someone I have less than zero respect for - IMO, his alleged development skills are overrated, and his man-management skills have yet to hit my radar. What really gets to me is this; I've worked my tail off for almost three years for this company, pulling all-nighters, working on stuff at home, digging other people out of their own mess, and basically, "going the extra mile". Yes, they paid me to do it, but I'm about to watch it all go down the pan as I get shafted and carry the can for the failure to ship on time. You might say I deserve it, but the truth is, the product set isn't even finished yet, there are guys working on it still, and making non-minor changes; my lack of testing doesn't even scratch the surface. It's lucky I'm leaving, or I'd probably flip and turn him into a stretcher-case, assuming of course, I could get to the head of the queue. Steve S On a lighter note, anyone looking for a decent VC++ developer with ATL/COM experience? I don't really bite while at work, well, not since 1983, anyway!!

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              In your next job - make 100% CERTAIN that your proposed development plan to include all technoloigies used and test plans to be run are approved by the project manager. Don't allow yourself to be set "free" to do whatever you want "as long as you finish oin time". That is a recipe for failure. I understand liking the freedom, etc. but you need to cover your ass. Take the extra time to prepare development plans that you submit to the PM and get his/her sign-off. THen, if this happens, you can show them your dev plan where it says "DB will be developed on SQL server using standard SQL" with the PMs signature. CYA!!!!!!


              Glano perictu com sahni delorin!

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