Nick Berg
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hspc wrote: anyway buying some land in englan does not give me the right to consider it an hspcian land and make a new nation on it!!! They didn't buy the land in England. They purchased land from Ottoman Turks, Arabs and yes, even Jews. It's also important to note that the Palestinians never had a nation; the territory had been part of the Ottoman empire for 400 years. This isn't to say Britain's governance of the territory was somewhere between bad and awful; it was. However, given the history of the region, the actions of the League of Nations in other parts of the Arab world and Britain's history has a colonizing power, what happened becomes somewhat understandable, though not justifiable. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Joe Woodbury wrote: They purchased land from Ottoman Turks when ? palestine was under the british conquest!! Joe Woodbury wrote: understandable, though not justifiable. and what matters here is justice
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What rules? There are no rules. There are deals. And war. That's it. Live with it. It's pleasing to hear that the Egyptians have made something of the Sinai - I hadn't known that. However, at the time it was given back it wasn't theirs. And we have our own oil (UK), thank you very much - don't need your overpriced goods. Maybe you should spend some of those hefty oil revenues on your own people in the form of food and medicine instead of stockpiling housed all over the world and sendiong weapons to terrorist organisations. That'll promote peace, won't it? Bottom line: put down your weapons, accept that you can't get back everything you think you lost, accept that Israel is not going to go away and maybe, just maybe we can all get what we really want - peace. I'm not holding my breath. Can I stop apologising for not logging in now?
Mark [London] wrote: you should spend some of those hefty oil revenues on your own people in the form of food and medicine instead of stockpiling housed all over the world and sendiong weapons to terrorist organisations. mmmmmm talking to blair ?;P ok..Yes he should stop his terrorists and also care about his next elections
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Joe Woodbury wrote: They purchased land from Ottoman Turks when ? palestine was under the british conquest!! Joe Woodbury wrote: understandable, though not justifiable. and what matters here is justice
You need to read up on your history. After WWI, the Ottoman empire was broken up and partitioned in secret by Britain, France and Italy, which accounts for the mostly arbitrary borders of many countries in the region. While Britain controlled the Palestine territory, title to the lands was still retained mostly by Ottoman Turks (most were absentee landlords.) The history of Palestine/Israel is long and complicated. hspc wrote: and what matters here is justice If you're talking justice, begin with prosecuting the Palestinian terrorists who deliberately target and kill women and children. Also prosecute the parents who kill their daughters for disgracing them by being raped or having consensual sex out of wedlock. If you're talking justice, why hasn't Arafat been arrested for embezzling and misappropriating over a billion dollars of money meant for the Palestinian people? Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Paul Lyons wrote: Do you, or does anyone else, have reliable, documented proof of this, or is it merely rhetoric? not under my hands now.. I also don't have an evidence that Bin laden commited the 11/9 crime.
hspc wrote: not under my hands now.. Thanks. If you do happen to come upon it, please let me know. hspc wrote: I also don't have an evidence that Bin laden commited the 11/9 crime. Hmmm, don't recall asking that. :confused: Since you are an enlightened seeker of knowledge, perhaps this[^] might help you.
Paul Lyons, CCPL
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I just saw this video. X| X| X| Everyone is so shocked by the way American and British troops have treated prisioners. Maybe this video should be shown on TV.. see how shocked people are by what our troops have done after they see a guy getting his head hacked off. If I had a better memory I would remember more.
The networks know that what you can't see, you'll soon forget. You'll remember what happened to Nick because you've seen it. The torture of prisoners is more hazy, they won't let you see that. And as the invader, the USA has the obligation to be more than 'less evil', if they want the support of the populace. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder