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    I was wondering if anyone knew, is there something preventing a person from getting MCAD, and then taking the additional test(s)necessary to get MCSD? In other words, can I take the tests required to get MCAD and then apply those tests towards getting MCSD? Still coaxing software out of the can after all these years...

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      I was wondering if anyone knew, is there something preventing a person from getting MCAD, and then taking the additional test(s)necessary to get MCSD? In other words, can I take the tests required to get MCAD and then apply those tests towards getting MCSD? Still coaxing software out of the can after all these years...

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      Actually that is what you do. I have my MCAD now and I am one exam from getting my MCSD (.Net). Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD

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        Actually that is what you do. I have my MCAD now and I am one exam from getting my MCSD (.Net). Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD

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        Hey Steve, I passed exam 70-316 a couple of weeks ago, and im preparing to take exam 70-315. There seems to be alot of shared knowledge between the two exams. Are there alot of html based exam questions for 70-315? Just curious, Thanks, Ryan

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          Hey Steve, I passed exam 70-316 a couple of weeks ago, and im preparing to take exam 70-315. There seems to be alot of shared knowledge between the two exams. Are there alot of html based exam questions for 70-315? Just curious, Thanks, Ryan

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          There is alot of shared knowledge, you are right. But you have to think about things from the web forms point of view not the windows forms. So there are some differences too. There should be quite abit of database info there, but that is on 316 too. Maybe abit more on 315. Of course there are questions on configuring the web application (web.config). Also know your debugging. Of course all of this is info that you can find in the MS page on the exam, but I am just re-affirming what is there. Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD

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            There is alot of shared knowledge, you are right. But you have to think about things from the web forms point of view not the windows forms. So there are some differences too. There should be quite abit of database info there, but that is on 316 too. Maybe abit more on 315. Of course there are questions on configuring the web application (web.config). Also know your debugging. Of course all of this is info that you can find in the MS page on the exam, but I am just re-affirming what is there. Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD

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            Thanks Steve, The reason I am curious is because of the ability to do many different functions in code-behind files vs. just editing the html of an asmx. I'm not a huge html guy, but I do often use code behind files with asp.net apps, so I was hoping there would be very little html. Thanks again! Ryan

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              Thanks Steve, The reason I am curious is because of the ability to do many different functions in code-behind files vs. just editing the html of an asmx. I'm not a huge html guy, but I do often use code behind files with asp.net apps, so I was hoping there would be very little html. Thanks again! Ryan

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              As I remember there should not be too much direct html on it. Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD

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                As I remember there should not be too much direct html on it. Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD

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                Thats a relief because i'm taking the same exam in 2 weeks. However i don't get to do any web development at work, it's all windows based stuff, the only things i know about web dev is through reading the books for the exams and doing transcenders. But the one that will really cause me trouble is the XML web services one, not looking forward to that at all! :-( Anyone got any advice on specific areas that pop up in the XML web services exam? Kev Pearman MCP

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                  Thats a relief because i'm taking the same exam in 2 weeks. However i don't get to do any web development at work, it's all windows based stuff, the only things i know about web dev is through reading the books for the exams and doing transcenders. But the one that will really cause me trouble is the XML web services one, not looking forward to that at all! :-( Anyone got any advice on specific areas that pop up in the XML web services exam? Kev Pearman MCP

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                  Definately for any of the exams, have the environment installed and play with it. Do things that are not in the books. For web services, make a little calculator service and then write an app to use it or a word statistic service that takes a string and returns you teh word count, letter count, count for a given letter, the number of caps, the number of puncuation, etc. But you really should have some hands on experience with the things for the test. Learning for the books is good, but you have to use it to get the understanding of someone the things. Of course for any of the exams, you have to know how to install and configure things. If you think about it, someone that has that certification should know how to deploy their app (win or web). Debugging is also a big thing. On a windows app you can use message boxes and writing out to console windows and to debug files, but think about what you need to do from a web server perspective if the server is in a different state/country. Database access (like for SQL Server) is also important, not only for the exams but for using it in real life too. Places that look at your cert will want to know that you can use their multi-cluster SQL Server with little effort. Also http://transcender.com/ has free sample exams that are pretty good. I would download them and test your skills. Of course the free version is only 1 practice exam and the full cost one is something like 5, but practice is practice. Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD

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                    Definately for any of the exams, have the environment installed and play with it. Do things that are not in the books. For web services, make a little calculator service and then write an app to use it or a word statistic service that takes a string and returns you teh word count, letter count, count for a given letter, the number of caps, the number of puncuation, etc. But you really should have some hands on experience with the things for the test. Learning for the books is good, but you have to use it to get the understanding of someone the things. Of course for any of the exams, you have to know how to install and configure things. If you think about it, someone that has that certification should know how to deploy their app (win or web). Debugging is also a big thing. On a windows app you can use message boxes and writing out to console windows and to debug files, but think about what you need to do from a web server perspective if the server is in a different state/country. Database access (like for SQL Server) is also important, not only for the exams but for using it in real life too. Places that look at your cert will want to know that you can use their multi-cluster SQL Server with little effort. Also http://transcender.com/ has free sample exams that are pretty good. I would download them and test your skills. Of course the free version is only 1 practice exam and the full cost one is something like 5, but practice is practice. Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD

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                    Thanks for your advice Steve, I've already done 70-316 and i would agree with you that there is going to be a lot of questions on Deployment and Debugging, as well as some ADO related questions. Hopefully, some of this will cross over with windows. I have all of the transcender exams for both web and xml services and if they are anything like the windows transcenders then they will be harder than the real exams. (Hopefully) Still i've got a 2 day course before each exam to allow me some practice and hopefuly drill some points home but it's gonna be hectic. 70-315 on the wednesday morning, xml web services on the friday afternoon :((. Hopefully in a couple of weeks my sig will change to Kev Pearman MCAD (fingers crossed). Kev Pearman MCP

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