Marriage Amendment
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DRHuff wrote: Is it just this one subject I might have considered answering that question however you don't state which one subject you are referring to. :(( So DRHuff wrote: interpreted in totally different ways palbano wrote: offered me a beer while you tuned your new TV into the WWF and told me "That's real you know" I would think you were an idiot You believe there is a different interpretation for that? I never considered that believing the WWF was faked could be an opinion. You may be on to something there. While we are on the subject how about this one: If you are a person that drives 35 mph on a six lane thoroughfare posted as 45 mph and the turns off of it into a residential neighborhood posted at 25 mph but continue to drive 35 mph, I would think you are an idiot. So you are saying that is just an opinion and not an accurate assessment of the facts? There has been a considerable amount of attention given to my use of the word "idiot". Perhaps I am the biggest idiot of the group for using a "word" to emphasize the point I am attempting to make and believing that people would not take it in some strict literal sense. At the very least this has resulted in distracting the discussion from the primary issue that was being discussed since most of the posts indicting my use of the word "idiot" did not offer any arguments for the "points at issue" in my post.
palbano wrote: might have considered answering that question however you don't state which one subject you are referring to. I'm sorry - my actual quote is "...is it" etc. I assumed you would be able to figure out the one issue - considering what this thread is about and the ... clue to indicate I was just taking the last part of your sentence above. So to make it abundantly clear - the issue of the Marriage Amendment. palbano wrote: So you are saying that is just an opinion and not an accurate assessment of the facts? Wow - two examples - with a little effort you could probably come up with some more. I said that the same set of facts can result in a difference of opinion - I did not say that that is always true. Trivial examples do not invalidate the statement. On the gay marriage issue people have different views, I may not agree with someones opinion but I don't automatically categorize that person as an idiot. palbano wrote: There has been a considerable amount of attention given to my use of the word "idiot". Perhaps I am the biggest idiot of the group for using a "word" to emphasize the point I am attempting to make and believing that people would not take it in some strict literal sense. At the very least this has resulted in distracting the discussion from the primary issue that was being discussed since most of the posts indicting my use of the word "idiot" did not offer any arguments for the "points at issue" in my post. So if you use the word idiot people are not to take it in a literal sense? So I can also dismiss the rest of what you say because you don't mean it in the literal sense? Or do you only get to pick and choose which parts are meant literally and the rest of us just have to puzzle it out. To me - accusing people who hold a certain opinion of being idiots while trying to have a discussion with those same people reduces your discussion to the level of schoolchildren. If you want to have a discussion - have one. If you want to call people names - go back to kindergarten. I don't mean to sound preachy here - its just that I have seen many of the forums that I have participated in gradually diminish into spitting contests with no valid arguments or discussions. This board has surprised me with the level of civility and logical argument that it has maintained for so long but I have felt that it is becoming increasingly polarized and negative over the last while. I
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palbano wrote: might have considered answering that question however you don't state which one subject you are referring to. I'm sorry - my actual quote is "...is it" etc. I assumed you would be able to figure out the one issue - considering what this thread is about and the ... clue to indicate I was just taking the last part of your sentence above. So to make it abundantly clear - the issue of the Marriage Amendment. palbano wrote: So you are saying that is just an opinion and not an accurate assessment of the facts? Wow - two examples - with a little effort you could probably come up with some more. I said that the same set of facts can result in a difference of opinion - I did not say that that is always true. Trivial examples do not invalidate the statement. On the gay marriage issue people have different views, I may not agree with someones opinion but I don't automatically categorize that person as an idiot. palbano wrote: There has been a considerable amount of attention given to my use of the word "idiot". Perhaps I am the biggest idiot of the group for using a "word" to emphasize the point I am attempting to make and believing that people would not take it in some strict literal sense. At the very least this has resulted in distracting the discussion from the primary issue that was being discussed since most of the posts indicting my use of the word "idiot" did not offer any arguments for the "points at issue" in my post. So if you use the word idiot people are not to take it in a literal sense? So I can also dismiss the rest of what you say because you don't mean it in the literal sense? Or do you only get to pick and choose which parts are meant literally and the rest of us just have to puzzle it out. To me - accusing people who hold a certain opinion of being idiots while trying to have a discussion with those same people reduces your discussion to the level of schoolchildren. If you want to have a discussion - have one. If you want to call people names - go back to kindergarten. I don't mean to sound preachy here - its just that I have seen many of the forums that I have participated in gradually diminish into spitting contests with no valid arguments or discussions. This board has surprised me with the level of civility and logical argument that it has maintained for so long but I have felt that it is becoming increasingly polarized and negative over the last while. I
I don't disagree with your points about the level of discussion in fact i already pointed that out myself right? DRHuff wrote: So I can also dismiss the rest of what you say because you don't mean it in the literal sense? Sure you can, especially if you don't want to respond to any of the points that I addressed. However when you do that, which by the way you are, it appears that you are deflecting from the actual statements that I made in all other posts. My posts containing that hideous word didn't really pertain to the main issue at hand. Many of my other posts do. This seems a little like a political deflection tactic. You don't want to discuss the points i made so you attack "the way" I said something that was totally unrelated to them while at the same time making it look as though it was related. Oh bother… not very eloquent but what can you expect from a fascist judgmental paranoid hypocritical moron. By the way, those are all names that I have been called in formus on CP some of which were before I use the hideous word. I'm a real popular fellow eh? You might want to buy my book "How to make enemies and not friends". :laugh: DRHuff wrote: AND NOW..... TWO WEEKS VACATION I hope you have a great one! And I mean that. :-D