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His first sentence is about a chess player who acted like a spoilt brat and then, having created this image in the readers mind starts to go on about whoever his target is. If his only way to carry out a political analysis is to try and blind people with irrelevant emotions then he should go back to his sandbox rather than pretend to be some great pundit. That is, at best, a hypocritical approach since is has just acted like the person he uses as a bad example. The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: That is, at best, a hypocritical approach since is has just acted like the person he uses as a bad example. well done Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me Paraphrasing Kerry: I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are, I have a secret plan for Iraq Me
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Mike Gaskey wrote: that relied on the CIA and FBI organizations developped by Clinton. :~ Mike Gaskey wrote: bad choice for leader of the free world if that is what you believe. Nothing can be worse than Bush's judgment, imo. I don't agree with most republican judgments to begin with. chew on this;P http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2003/09/16063_comment.php[^] Later, JoeSox "My fellow Americans, major combat operations in Iraq have ended." --GWB May 1, 2003 CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest
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DRHuff wrote: He had seen a lot of intel on Saddam - pre-Bush (or he would have if he hadn't missed 38 of the 49 meetings held during that time). Why did he miss them? Later, JoeSox "My fellow Americans, major combat operations in Iraq have ended." --GWB May 1, 2003 CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest
JoeSox wrote: Why did he miss them? He had "better" things to do. Didn't seem to care that it was his responsibility to attend the meetings. 11 out of 49. 22% attendance. Had he done that to any university class he would likely have failed the course. (then again, perhaps he did fail that course...) Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. - Vint Cerf
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JoeSox wrote: Nothing can be worse than Bush's judgment, imo. I don't agree with most republican judgments to begin with. I don't agree with ANY judgements made by any Democrat!:) A vote for Kerry is a vote for Bin Laden:mad:
Bill S wrote: A vote for Kerry is a vote for Bin Laden That's a strong conclusion. Where did you begin to come up with that? I have a hunch that bin Laden will be caught earlier with Kerry as POTUS, instead of Bush. If Bush keeps this pace up, the Chirac will catch him, poke GWB in the eye and say "Now, you appologize!" -- ...Coca Cola, sometimes war...
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Dream-o-crats[^] Puts it into perspective. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me Paraphrasing Kerry: I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are, I have a secret plan for Iraq Me
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Houston Independent Media Center wrote: Cities like Phoenix, Miami, Los Angeles and Chicago reported increases of around 50 percent between January 2001 and July 2003. Homeless shelters are overcrowded; in 2002, the U.S. Conference of Mayors reported that 30 percent of all requests for shelter went unmet. Great examples of progressive cities. Now how do you explain that? Show me what is happening in, say Dallas or some other reasonably conservative enclave. Houston Independent Media Center wrote: Those trends particularly increased in the first six months of 2003, as Bush’s cruel budget cuts and tax increases for the poor took greater effect, Shaft wrote. Some 60 percent of new homeless cases targeted single mothers with children in 2003. Tax increase for the poor? What the fuck is that? People on the low end were dropped from the tax rolls, there taxes were not increased. Houston Independent Media Center wrote: The lack of affordable housing leads the list of causes, according to the National Coalition for the Homeless. The Ford administration requested more than 400,000 Section 8 vouchers to help poor families obtain housing in 1976. The Bush regime’s 2003 budget request was for 34,000, despite a growth in poverty and homelessness since the 1970s. If there is a lack of affordable housing today then it was worse 8 years ago, not better. Interest rates are down and housing prices have moved very little. If someone wants to live in SF or LA and can't afford to it is there problem not mine. Housing is much cheaper in middle America. Houston Independent Media Center wrote: Workers with families who make the minimum wage just cannot afford the rising costs of housing, food, medical care and other necessities. This is plain stupid. Minimum wage jobs are entry level and are not designed to support families. Houston Independent Media Center wrote: The number of Americans without health insurance continues to grow, and what is Bush and other Republican leaders doing about that? Nothing. Not a damn thing. How many of these insurance-less folks are driving cars with spinners or watching a color TV? The # of people without insurce is a meaningless statistic unless you tell me how many of them have made other spending choices. Houston Independent Media Center wrote: Following years of decline, participation in the federal food st
Mike Gaskey wrote: How many of these insurance-less folks are driving cars with spinners or watching a color TV? The # of people without insurce is a meaningless statistic unless you tell me how many of them have made other spending choices. Why? So if you were told that 50% "could" have paid for their own insurance but purchased cars and tv's instead what would that change? What about the other 50%? Or are you asserting that all poor people are "lazy and need to work harder"? Yes we are all well aware of the fact that not all people have good work ethic and that some low income people are there due to their choices. But painting all low income people with that same brush has nothing to do with truth, rather it is a perfect example of a "bunch of compost". You can try to spin the facts if you want to but at the end of the day it is just rhetoric.
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JoeSox wrote: This decision was based off the intel approved by the Bush administration, I would assume I am sure that as a senior Senator he had access to the same intel that the President had. And reached the same conclusion. Only he has the luxury of being able to use his 20/20 hindsight because he had to take no responsibility for any actions while the President did. He just wants us to believe that he would have gone about it differently - and well he may - but his record says differently. Best of both worlds . He may really be more like Jimmy Carter - can't make up his mind and just sits paralized while the world falls around him. Richard "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
Richard Stringer wrote: I am sure that as a senior Senator he had access to the same intel that the President had. What he nor anyone else had access to was the activities of the administration pressing for the reports to depict rationale for declaring war. Therefore no reason to doubt the reports. X|
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JoeSox wrote: This decision was based off the intel approved by the Bush administration, I would assume. that relied on the CIA and FBI organizations developped by Clinton. come'on Joe you can't have it both ways. had Lurch been president he would have been looking at the same intel. I guess what you're really saying is that Lurch was just another sheep in the flock, deciding to just go along. bad choice for leader of the free world if that is what you believe. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me Paraphrasing Kerry: I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are, I have a secret plan for Iraq Me
Mike Gaskey wrote: come'on Joe you can't have it both ways. Exactly, you can't claim people need to do the patriotic thing and support the President in his call to war, and then blame them for flip-flopping after the evidence of WMDs vanished later.
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Mike Gaskey wrote: How many of these insurance-less folks are driving cars with spinners or watching a color TV? The # of people without insurce is a meaningless statistic unless you tell me how many of them have made other spending choices. Why? So if you were told that 50% "could" have paid for their own insurance but purchased cars and tv's instead what would that change? What about the other 50%? Or are you asserting that all poor people are "lazy and need to work harder"? Yes we are all well aware of the fact that not all people have good work ethic and that some low income people are there due to their choices. But painting all low income people with that same brush has nothing to do with truth, rather it is a perfect example of a "bunch of compost". You can try to spin the facts if you want to but at the end of the day it is just rhetoric.
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palbano wrote: what would that change? it changes the statistic significantly. palbano wrote: Or are you asserting that all poor people are "lazy and need to work harder"? nope, just that most make choices that put them where they are and I simply don't see how that then becomes my problem. Even assuming they're "poor" through no fault of their own I do not in any way, shape or form believe I (read that as a tax payer making above the poverty line) have any obligation what so ever to provide them with healthcare or health insurance. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me Paraphrasing Kerry: I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are, I have a secret plan for Iraq Me
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Paul Lyons wrote: And for a real kick, check out Mr. Thoreau's "Fair and Balanced" I did, same shit. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me Paraphrasing Kerry: I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are, I have a secret plan for Iraq Me
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It would be equally simple to write the same type of rhetoric about Republicans along a theme of deception and avarice dropping names like Lay and Halliburton. :zzz::zzz::zzz:
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palbano wrote: It would be equally simple to write the same type of rhetoric about Republicans... Kinda like the last two years? ;P "You have to remember one thing about the will of the people: it wasn't that long ago that we were swept away by the Macarena." Jon Stewart