Circumcision at three.
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My nephew was born with a serious heart defect and the doctors were not able to circumcise him at birth. Now, three years later, my sister and her husband have decided to have him circumcised. I strongly oppose this idea and would like to construct and arguement to save the child. What is your opinion on this matter? Signature under construction.
I was against doing it to my son at birth, But at age 6 he had a problem with tightening of the skin etc, where it had to be done. It's a contenscious issue, I see it still as cosmetic surgery in most cases. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: Watch this signature for an upcoming announcement that will affect you.
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My nephew was born with a serious heart defect and the doctors were not able to circumcise him at birth. Now, three years later, my sister and her husband have decided to have him circumcised. I strongly oppose this idea and would like to construct and arguement to save the child. What is your opinion on this matter? Signature under construction.
Only the most ignorant of fools support the idea of circumcision. Or, you could try and word it differently. Maybe suggest that the man consider how he'd like to have that done without any sort of painkiller ( I assume that he's been done, or he wouldn't be so ignorant ). Or perhaps tell them that kids can't remember anything before they are 2, and as he is 3, he's bound to remember the trauma they are about to subject him to for no good reason whatsoever. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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BrianOlej wrote: What is your opinion on this matter? For what it is worth, I don't think you should interfere with their parenting. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me Paraphrasing Kerry: I've spoken to many world leaders - they all look at me and say, you've got to win. I just can't tell you who they are, I have a secret plan for Iraq Me
Do you believe that in all cases of child abuse ? Seriously, circumcision is child abuse. In Australia, most doctors will refuse to do it, unless you're a Jew. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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I was against doing it to my son at birth, But at age 6 he had a problem with tightening of the skin etc, where it had to be done. It's a contenscious issue, I see it still as cosmetic surgery in most cases. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: Watch this signature for an upcoming announcement that will affect you.
ColinDavies wrote: I see it still as cosmetic surgery in most cases. LOL - you think it looks BETTER afterwards ? I don't see any benefit either way :-) I get your point though, and you're right. without medical reasons, it is just cosmetic, i.e. it has no real purpose. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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ColinDavies wrote: I see it still as cosmetic surgery in most cases. LOL - you think it looks BETTER afterwards ? I don't see any benefit either way :-) I get your point though, and you're right. without medical reasons, it is just cosmetic, i.e. it has no real purpose. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Christian Graus wrote: LOL - you think it looks BETTER afterwards ? A doctor told me that women want their sons to have it because that is the way they prefer penises to look. :-) I guess its cultural acceptability. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: Watch this signature for an upcoming announcement that will affect you.
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Do you believe that in all cases of child abuse ? Seriously, circumcision is child abuse. In Australia, most doctors will refuse to do it, unless you're a Jew. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Christian Graus wrote: Do you believe that in all cases of child abuse ? No. I think there is a moral obligation to protect children from both physical as well as mental abuse, I just didn't (or don't) consider this as child abuse. Based on your comments that doesn't appear to be a universally held opinion. I have not heard this before and am really surprised. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go agin." RR
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Christian Graus wrote: LOL - you think it looks BETTER afterwards ? A doctor told me that women want their sons to have it because that is the way they prefer penises to look. :-) I guess its cultural acceptability. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: Watch this signature for an upcoming announcement that will affect you.
Actually, now that you mention it, I saw a Cosmo cover the other day, and the feature article was advising women on how to deal with the first time with a guy who has a weird penis, and the cover said something like 'crooked ? bent ? hooded ?'. Man, if a mans magazine came out with a similar story, they'd be burning their bras in the streets. There's surely a lot of women reading Cosmo who would be upset if their partner read something equivelant. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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Christian Graus wrote: Do you believe that in all cases of child abuse ? No. I think there is a moral obligation to protect children from both physical as well as mental abuse, I just didn't (or don't) consider this as child abuse. Based on your comments that doesn't appear to be a universally held opinion. I have not heard this before and am really surprised. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go agin." RR
Mike Gaskey wrote: I have not heard this before and am really surprised. Perhaps the USA, having a stronger Jewish community, has a different perception, but the cold truth is that they hold down your baby, and they cut the end off his dick. There is no medical reason for this, the argument for cleanliness is a crock, and I'm not even sure that the theory that it stops boys masturbating is correct ( and anyone who sets out to stop their kid whacking off has serious hangups anyhow in my opinion ). Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
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Mike Gaskey wrote: I have not heard this before and am really surprised. Perhaps the USA, having a stronger Jewish community, has a different perception, but the cold truth is that they hold down your baby, and they cut the end off his dick. There is no medical reason for this, the argument for cleanliness is a crock, and I'm not even sure that the theory that it stops boys masturbating is correct ( and anyone who sets out to stop their kid whacking off has serious hangups anyhow in my opinion ). Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder
Christian Graus wrote: Perhaps the USA, having a stronger Jewish community, has a different perception I guess although I understood the practice to be tied to Jewish beliefs I always believed it to be based on a conept of hygiene. Christian Graus wrote: and anyone who sets out to stop their kid whacking off has serious hangups anyhow in my opinion We agree. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go agin." RR
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Christian Graus wrote: Perhaps the USA, having a stronger Jewish community, has a different perception I guess although I understood the practice to be tied to Jewish beliefs I always believed it to be based on a conept of hygiene. Christian Graus wrote: and anyone who sets out to stop their kid whacking off has serious hangups anyhow in my opinion We agree. Mike "liberals are being driven crazy by the fact that Bush is so popular with Americans, and thus by the realization that anyone to the left of center is utterly marginal." JAMES TRAUB NY Times "I don't want a president who is friends with France or Germany" Me "I plan to vote for Kerry before I vote against him." Me "There you go agin." RR
Mike Gaskey wrote: I always believed it to be based on a conept of hygiene. Yes, I believe you're right there, but it's a concept as outdated as the idea of shaving a woman before she gives birth, and keeping the husband in a different room. :-) Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder