US and GWB
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You are absolutely right, but he did not. The next best thing would have been for us to try to open communications to help with aid. If we can do it for weapons inspections, why not. See the biggest problem here is that there are two "API's" of thinking. We all have different forms of comunication, something i say may be ok to you but not to someone else. Had comunication been built, and we eat a little crow, a means to an end. We cannot have everything our way, just like we feel Osama is a terrorist, they feeln we are. A clean slate, a unified chance to improve, sounds better than a war we seem to be losing, though we have already won. No one wins in war, we can all win with diplomacy Discovery consist of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought -- Albert Szent-Györgyi Name the greatest of all the inventors: accident --Mark Twain
JimRivera wrote: We cannot have everything our way, just like we feel Osama is a terrorist, they feeln we are. I think this best illuminates precisely why diplomacy does not work as a sole means of interaction between cultures. If we took emotions out of the picture, we could possibly sit across from one another and discuss rational solutions to global problems. That however requires us to lose our humanity. BW The Biggest Loser
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JimRivera wrote: We cannot have everything our way, just like we feel Osama is a terrorist, they feeln we are. I think this best illuminates precisely why diplomacy does not work as a sole means of interaction between cultures. If we took emotions out of the picture, we could possibly sit across from one another and discuss rational solutions to global problems. That however requires us to lose our humanity. BW The Biggest Loser
"Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
-The StovesSee this is where our paths seperate, as I feel that we do not need to lose our humanity or emotions. We need leaders that are willing to do whatever it takes to find the greater peace, to extend the power of humanity. Both sides have common interest, we all want basically the same things. Islamic religion has been perverted to the interest of these terrorist. Not all these people feel like this, however they are angry. We require leaders who can think bigger than the rest of us, who can see a future through the ashes of the past, not someone trying to please the people, but commands it. As a New Yorker i think Rudy Guliani (hope thats spelled right) was a man who knew what he was doing. I remember his first election, he said he'd stop crime and make new york a nice place to live. Like usual I laugh, but a few yeaers later he had the last laugh. There is not a single area in the city that has not reduce in crime, his methods were terrible, people hated him, but he won when elections came up. Point being you don't worry about feelings, you worry about your people and their progress. We don't have to understand the presidents actions, but we should alwasy respect them. Discovery consist of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought -- Albert Szent-Györgyi Name the greatest of all the inventors: accident --Mark Twain
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See this is where our paths seperate, as I feel that we do not need to lose our humanity or emotions. We need leaders that are willing to do whatever it takes to find the greater peace, to extend the power of humanity. Both sides have common interest, we all want basically the same things. Islamic religion has been perverted to the interest of these terrorist. Not all these people feel like this, however they are angry. We require leaders who can think bigger than the rest of us, who can see a future through the ashes of the past, not someone trying to please the people, but commands it. As a New Yorker i think Rudy Guliani (hope thats spelled right) was a man who knew what he was doing. I remember his first election, he said he'd stop crime and make new york a nice place to live. Like usual I laugh, but a few yeaers later he had the last laugh. There is not a single area in the city that has not reduce in crime, his methods were terrible, people hated him, but he won when elections came up. Point being you don't worry about feelings, you worry about your people and their progress. We don't have to understand the presidents actions, but we should alwasy respect them. Discovery consist of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought -- Albert Szent-Györgyi Name the greatest of all the inventors: accident --Mark Twain
I think we basically agree. I do believe most people want similar things, and peacefully. I guess I'm more skeptical that we can pull it off for any meaningful, extended period of time is all. JimRivera wrote: he said he'd stop crime and make new york a nice place to live I grew up on the Island and in CT, but moved down to SC early 90's. I'm always impressed at the changes made in NYC when go up to visit. Great town! BW The Biggest Loser
"Farm Donkey makes us laugh.
Farm Donkey hauls some ass."
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