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  • P pseudonym67

    Wouldn't a true theoretical anarchy aquaint to the same as a true theorectical democracy as in theory the only difference would be that in one there is a nominal leader? pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush

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    pseudonym67 wrote: Wouldn't a true theoretical anarchy aquaint to the same as a true theorectical democracy as in theory the only difference would be that in one there is a nominal leader? Nope. Democracy works on the premise that the majority of the people reach a consensus for everything (in reality, this is false, but "true" democracy is supposed to work like this, and since we're talking theoretically...), while anarchy works on the premise that you, as an individual, decide without the need for consensus. In an anarchy, you'd end up with leaders too, since such a society would be governed by "the laws of the jungle". So, there's no real difference between democracy in terms of leadership. The choice of leader(s) in a democracy is just more formalized. :) -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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      Brit wrote: "Failure to eradicate terrorism in some areas of the world has often been attributed to geographic barriers, like mountainous terrain in Afghanistan or tropical jungle in Colombia. This study provides empirical evidence of the link between terrorism and geography," Abadie said. This doesn't wash with me. Anecdotal evidence would suggest that Switzerland, Bhutan, Brasil (except Povo Sen Terra) have miserable geographic barriers but nil terrorism. I think it needs to be better defined what coutries are either exuding terrorism and which are victims. Clearly Saudi Arabia is a big exporter of terrorism. And it is a nation where political freedom is quite screwed up. New Zealand on the other hand only has had terrorism when the French went silly once. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: It's finally arrived, The worlds first DSP.

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      ColinDavies wrote: New Zealand on the other hand only has had terrorism when the French went silly once Do you consider the sinking of the Rainbow warrior as a terrorist act? :confused: no, I'm not claiming France did never terrorist actions. Having periods of our history called "The Terror" and "the White Terror" would be sufficient to demonstrate the opposite, without even mentionning some dark episodes of the colonial times, as the crushing of the revolt of Madagascar in 1947 for example.


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        ColinDavies wrote: New Zealand on the other hand only has had terrorism when the French went silly once Do you consider the sinking of the Rainbow warrior as a terrorist act? :confused: no, I'm not claiming France did never terrorist actions. Having periods of our history called "The Terror" and "the White Terror" would be sufficient to demonstrate the opposite, without even mentionning some dark episodes of the colonial times, as the crushing of the revolt of Madagascar in 1947 for example.


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        K(arl) wrote: Do you consider the sinking of the Rainbow warrior as a terrorist act? IMHO: If the NZ population were to be polled on this I believe a significant majority would call it a terrorist attack. It was pretty much a big event in NZ news for years both the bombing and what happened with the handling of the two agents. The bombing is considered as our only terrorist incident, which isn't surprising really for a small nation distantly located from neighbours. Although I'm sure that there are people in France who believe the incident was justified. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: It's finally arrived, The worlds first DSP.

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          K(arl) wrote: Do you consider the sinking of the Rainbow warrior as a terrorist act? IMHO: If the NZ population were to be polled on this I believe a significant majority would call it a terrorist attack. It was pretty much a big event in NZ news for years both the bombing and what happened with the handling of the two agents. The bombing is considered as our only terrorist incident, which isn't surprising really for a small nation distantly located from neighbours. Although I'm sure that there are people in France who believe the incident was justified. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: It's finally arrived, The worlds first DSP.

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          Many here condemned the action and a minister lost his position, but I don't know if the condemnation was because of the action or because of the failure to sink this boat properly and without being caught (what a shame!). At that time, I remember being shocked by making such an action in the harbor of a friendly country, moreover failing to do it cleanly. The sinking by itself didn't move me more than that, but regarding to NZ, it was unbearable. IMO, the goal was to stop Greenpeace to mess with our nuclear tests in the Pacific, not to use terror as a political mean. And AFAIK, the killing of the photographer was an unfortunate accident. Anyway he's dead now, may his soul rest in Peace.


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            Many here condemned the action and a minister lost his position, but I don't know if the condemnation was because of the action or because of the failure to sink this boat properly and without being caught (what a shame!). At that time, I remember being shocked by making such an action in the harbor of a friendly country, moreover failing to do it cleanly. The sinking by itself didn't move me more than that, but regarding to NZ, it was unbearable. IMO, the goal was to stop Greenpeace to mess with our nuclear tests in the Pacific, not to use terror as a political mean. And AFAIK, the killing of the photographer was an unfortunate accident. Anyway he's dead now, may his soul rest in Peace.


            Fold With Us! "Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms - Groucho Marx, 1890 - 1977"

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            K(arl) wrote: IMO, the goal was to stop Greenpeace to mess with our nuclear tests in the Pacific, not to use terror as a political mean. I don't doubt that for a momemnt in regards to the intention. However the effect did cause minor terror. I for one at the time believed that NZ should have taken a stronger stance against France. Regardz Colin J Davies Attention: It's finally arrived, The worlds first DSP.

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