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  • J Jerry Hammond

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    David Wulff
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    I'm not the only Code Project member who's used those names, I copied it off someone else (UKian I think, I really don't remember it was so long ago).


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      What Rob said. Also, the 10 along the smaller yellow is either called 10-bypass or business-10. A bypass is an offshoot of a highway that runs through a busy area, and typically handles traffic trying to bypass the city. Business, on the other hand, will typically bring you closer to the heart of the busy area. In this case, I would guess it's called business, since it looks like it heads into town. BW


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      Why in this map[^] does the yellow road have two numbers on the same shape/sign?


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      • D David Wulff

        I'm not the only Code Project member who's used those names, I copied it off someone else (UKian I think, I really don't remember it was so long ago).


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        i've used "USians" in the past. (not to imply you copied it from me ... and, i didn't invent it, either) Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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        • D David Wulff

          Why in this map[^] does the yellow road have two numbers on the same shape/sign?


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          Some roads merge and split, such that you can have stretches of road that are part of several different highways. Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong

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          • D David Wulff

            http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Las+Cruces,+New+Mexico&ll=32.276123,-106.905407&spn=0.092407,0.153928&hl=en[^] What is the name of that highway. Is it 10? 70? 180? How would you refer to it if you wanted to tell someone to drive on it heading out of the city. "Drive west along ... ?" Thanks guys. :rose:


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            David Wulff wrote: What is the name of that highway. Is it 10? 70? 180? How would you refer to it if you wanted to tell someone to drive on it heading out of the city. "Drive west along ... ?" Sometimes two highways travel the same road. "Drive West on I-10" or "Drive West on Highway 70" Both will work. Letting the person know that both highways combine is optional. It might confuse the person or help them. Don't know if you need it but this covers some USA driving tips: http://www.usatourist.com/english/tips/driving.html[^] Later, JoeSox "Why do writers write? Because it isn't there." -Thomas Berger CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Audioscrobbler

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            • D David Wulff

              http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Las+Cruces,+New+Mexico&ll=32.276123,-106.905407&spn=0.092407,0.153928&hl=en[^] What is the name of that highway. Is it 10? 70? 180? How would you refer to it if you wanted to tell someone to drive on it heading out of the city. "Drive west along ... ?" Thanks guys. :rose:


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              I-10 or Hwy 70, both works. Actually, As a German I find the street numbering/naming is the one thing the USians got right.


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              • C Chris Losinger

                i've used "USians" in the past. (not to imply you copied it from me ... and, i didn't invent it, either) Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                bob says it was you Clickety[^]


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                  bob says it was you Clickety[^]


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                    I-10 or Hwy 70, both works. Actually, As a German I find the street numbering/naming is the one thing the USians got right.


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                    peterchen wrote: As a German I find the street numbering/naming is the one thing the USians got right in older sections of cities and towns (anything over 30 years old :) ), things are usually pretty close to a grid (ex. my home town[^] of < 7,000 people). but our recent love affair with cul-de-sacs has made suburbia much more difficult (or at least much more unintuitive) to navigate (ex. my new town[^]). Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                      peterchen wrote: As a German I find the street numbering/naming is the one thing the USians got right in older sections of cities and towns (anything over 30 years old :) ), things are usually pretty close to a grid (ex. my home town[^] of < 7,000 people). but our recent love affair with cul-de-sacs has made suburbia much more difficult (or at least much more unintuitive) to navigate (ex. my new town[^]). Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                      Chris Losinger wrote: my new town My goodness, that looks like a bowl of meal worms! :omg:


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                        http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Las+Cruces,+New+Mexico&ll=32.276123,-106.905407&spn=0.092407,0.153928&hl=en[^] What is the name of that highway. Is it 10? 70? 180? How would you refer to it if you wanted to tell someone to drive on it heading out of the city. "Drive west along ... ?" Thanks guys. :rose:


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                        Even numbers run east to west; increasing to the south Principal routes are one or two digits (abbreviated as 2dus) and end in 0: US 10 to US 90 Existing range is US 2 to US 98 Odd numbers run north to south; increasing to the west Principal routes are one or two digits (with a single three digit exception) and end in 1: US 1 to US 101 Existing range is US 1 to US 101 Increments of low-order digits fill in the grid e.g. US 20, US 22, US 24, ... US 30 - Even Numbered e.g. US 21, US 23, US 25, ... US 31 - Odd Numbered In addition, an increment of 3rd high order digits (3dus) denote branch highways or spur routes. e.g. US 166, US 266, (US 366), (US 466), (US 566), (US 666) US Divided-number Routes are of the form nd where d is {N|S|E|W} e.g. US 70N, US 70S and (US 99E), (US 99W). :-D Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                        • D David Wulff

                          http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Las+Cruces,+New+Mexico&ll=32.276123,-106.905407&spn=0.092407,0.153928&hl=en[^] What is the name of that highway. Is it 10? 70? 180? How would you refer to it if you wanted to tell someone to drive on it heading out of the city. "Drive west along ... ?" Thanks guys. :rose:


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                          Well, when I drive on the exact same road every day.... We call it Interstate 10, I-10 for short, and Highway 70. Tell them to avoid Highway 70 between 6:30 and 7am. Honestly. :) We're crazy drivers here. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Las+Cruces,+New+Mexico&ll=32.276123,-106.905407&spn=0.092407,0.153928&hl=en[^] What is the name of that highway. Is it 10? 70? 180? How would you refer to it if you wanted to tell someone to drive on it heading out of the city. "Drive west along ... ?" Thanks guys. :rose:


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                            Additional note.... Leaving Las Cruces, every sign will say "Interstate 10 east/west" depending on which direction you hop on, or attempt to exit. So saying Interstate 10 west will be in large green signs over the exits, and I-10 will be on the interstate sign (exactly as you see it on the road map). So that will always be found. About one in four exits will say Highway 70 and 180. So if you give directions via that, they may not find the exit. Going down the highway, they will see constant reminders of the Interstate badge sign (I10), but reminders that they are on highway 70 or 180 will be very few and far between. Usually you will only find the state highway overlap signs near cities, Interstate signs will be regular and everywhere. ohhh... and tell them not to stop in Lordsburg (other side of deming), keep going, ASAP (unless you are letterboxing... in which case find it, and get out) :) I've never found a good reason for staying in Lordsburg for any period of time... and I will try almost anything once. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              Even numbers run east to west; increasing to the south Principal routes are one or two digits (abbreviated as 2dus) and end in 0: US 10 to US 90 Existing range is US 2 to US 98 Odd numbers run north to south; increasing to the west Principal routes are one or two digits (with a single three digit exception) and end in 1: US 1 to US 101 Existing range is US 1 to US 101 Increments of low-order digits fill in the grid e.g. US 20, US 22, US 24, ... US 30 - Even Numbered e.g. US 21, US 23, US 25, ... US 31 - Odd Numbered In addition, an increment of 3rd high order digits (3dus) denote branch highways or spur routes. e.g. US 166, US 266, (US 366), (US 466), (US 566), (US 666) US Divided-number Routes are of the form nd where d is {N|S|E|W} e.g. US 70N, US 70S and (US 99E), (US 99W). :-D Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                              However, here in the southwest, driving around mountain ranges and military sites, 10 east/west can go due north for 30 miles. :) it is very odd getting off and on I10 west at Vado for a sandwich when you turn north or south. hehehe The sign is the general direction of the highway between states and sometimes follows odd routes in the Rockies. And of course, worse, as you see on the map... interstate short-cuts are noted on a map... you will NOT find them in las cruces in town, they will just be street names. I think Las Cruces wants you to enter, but never leave. We do have good chili though, so it's worth the extra time in town. ;) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              • C Chris Losinger

                                peterchen wrote: As a German I find the street numbering/naming is the one thing the USians got right in older sections of cities and towns (anything over 30 years old :) ), things are usually pretty close to a grid (ex. my home town[^] of < 7,000 people). but our recent love affair with cul-de-sacs has made suburbia much more difficult (or at least much more unintuitive) to navigate (ex. my new town[^]). Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                                The cul-de-sacs don't seem so bad while you are driving, but as soon as you try to navigate them on a bike or walk, it forces you onto congested main roads and riding way out of your way to get around neighborhoods with no through access. :mad: The only explanation I've heard is that the random roads and single entrance and exit points of neighborhoods deters crime.


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                                  The cul-de-sacs don't seem so bad while you are driving, but as soon as you try to navigate them on a bike or walk, it forces you onto congested main roads and riding way out of your way to get around neighborhoods with no through access. :mad: The only explanation I've heard is that the random roads and single entrance and exit points of neighborhoods deters crime.


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                                  andy brummer wrote: The only explanation I've heard is that the random roads and single entrance and exit points of neighborhoods deters crime. Heh... i looked up cul-de-sac earlier, and found this little rant. Pretty much backs up your reason. Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong

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                                    andy brummer wrote: The only explanation I've heard is that the random roads and single entrance and exit points of neighborhoods deters crime. Heh... i looked up cul-de-sac earlier, and found this little rant. Pretty much backs up your reason. Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong

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                                    That pretty much sums it up about right. I've lived in areas with cul-de-sacs and areas without and even in the urban areas with much higher crime rates, I've felt much more connected to the neighborhood then living in one of those suburban hellholes. It is just a lot more plesant when things are built around a human scale rather then a car scale.


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                                      peterchen wrote: As a German I find the street numbering/naming is the one thing the USians got right in older sections of cities and towns (anything over 30 years old :) ), things are usually pretty close to a grid (ex. my home town[^] of < 7,000 people). but our recent love affair with cul-de-sacs has made suburbia much more difficult (or at least much more unintuitive) to navigate (ex. my new town[^]). Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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                                      sorry no fancy google maps[^] Note the particular unparallelness of many streets. This shows most of my way to work (the half-a-circle in the top right) and although I roughly knew the area, I regularly got lost the first week (, I always ended up on the wrong end), until I gave up and looked at the map. I was refering more to overland travel, i.e. getting from town A to town B. With the US system, you can have a lok at the map before, and take down a few notes (like "I90 west, US70South, US71 W until Glenmore road"), and get from A to B quickly. Further, it's fairly easy to locate yourself on the map if you're on an intersection. Try that in Germany - if you don't know the route, you are best off with someone navigating you.


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                                        sorry no fancy google maps[^] Note the particular unparallelness of many streets. This shows most of my way to work (the half-a-circle in the top right) and although I roughly knew the area, I regularly got lost the first week (, I always ended up on the wrong end), until I gave up and looked at the map. I was refering more to overland travel, i.e. getting from town A to town B. With the US system, you can have a lok at the map before, and take down a few notes (like "I90 west, US70South, US71 W until Glenmore road"), and get from A to B quickly. Further, it's fairly easy to locate yourself on the map if you're on an intersection. Try that in Germany - if you don't know the route, you are best off with someone navigating you.


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                                          sorry no fancy google maps[^] Note the particular unparallelness of many streets. This shows most of my way to work (the half-a-circle in the top right) and although I roughly knew the area, I regularly got lost the first week (, I always ended up on the wrong end), until I gave up and looked at the map. I was refering more to overland travel, i.e. getting from town A to town B. With the US system, you can have a lok at the map before, and take down a few notes (like "I90 west, US70South, US71 W until Glenmore road"), and get from A to B quickly. Further, it's fairly easy to locate yourself on the map if you're on an intersection. Try that in Germany - if you don't know the route, you are best off with someone navigating you.


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                                          peterchen wrote: Try that in Germany - if you don't know the route, you are best off with someone navigating you. yeah, i can see how that would be tough :) Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek

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