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What makes an American?

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  • G Gary Thom

    I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary

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    If you can get to the US coast and then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of, and are willing to stand on your own two feet and make your own way through life by your own abilities, without depending on government to do it for you - you are an American. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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    • G Gary Thom

      I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary

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      Gary Thom wrote: Greatest American Poll[^] Where is Homer Simpson?? There was someting similar in Czech Republic... "At its extreme, reality becomes usurped by make-believe. In a recent poll, Czechs were asked to vote for "the greatest Czech of all time." The winner was the Jara Cimmerman, a fictional character whose hallmark is turning the most trivial events into great conquests, which are then repeated and amplified in epic form. In short, something from nothing, but in reality, nothing at all." (http://www.praguepost.com/P03/2005/Art/0303/news7.php[^]) :) David Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)
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      • G Gary Thom

        I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary

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        My biggest problem is that there are too many entertainers on that list. To me "great" means people who have actually done something on their own volition to better humanity. If they had never been born, the world would have been a much poorer place. Maybe a "Most Popular" would be a better term IMHO.

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          My biggest problem is that there are too many entertainers on that list. To me "great" means people who have actually done something on their own volition to better humanity. If they had never been born, the world would have been a much poorer place. Maybe a "Most Popular" would be a better term IMHO.

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          JWood wrote: Maybe a "Most Popular" would be a better term IMHO. Well, anytime you have people voting on it, it's just a popularity contest, so that's pretty much implied. The name is just a hint as to how you should decide. Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong

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            If you can get to the US coast and then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of, and are willing to stand on your own two feet and make your own way through life by your own abilities, without depending on government to do it for you - you are an American. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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            Stan Shannon wrote: then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of Trolling again? ;P It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... Anger is the most impotent of passions. It effects nothing it goes about, and hurts the one who is possessed by it more than the one against whom it is directed. Carl Sandburg

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              Stan Shannon wrote: then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of Trolling again? ;P It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... Anger is the most impotent of passions. It effects nothing it goes about, and hurts the one who is possessed by it more than the one against whom it is directed. Carl Sandburg

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              Rob Graham wrote: Trolling again? Not at all, I truly believe that. Rob Graham wrote: It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... I disagree. Being an American is all about rejecting the values of the old world - utterly and completely - in order to become something new. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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              • G Gary Thom

                I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary

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                Cannot believe that Shannon is not on the list while other 'luminaries' like Martha Stewart made it in. Atleast they got Dr Salk. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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                  Stan Shannon wrote: then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of Trolling again? ;P It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... Anger is the most impotent of passions. It effects nothing it goes about, and hurts the one who is possessed by it more than the one against whom it is directed. Carl Sandburg

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                  Rob Graham wrote: Stan Shannon wrote: then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of Rob Graham wrote: It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... Well I don't know why but I've found it very american, too. David Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)
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                  • J Jason Henderson

                    Mike Mullikin wrote: Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! How many people would disagree with this statement? If they want to come here, let them come, but only if they succumb to a background check.

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                    Eh, well, there's ideals and then there's reality. Can't have'em take'n ur jerbs naw... Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong

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                      Eh, well, there's ideals and then there's reality. Can't have'em take'n ur jerbs naw... Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong

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                      You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take?

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                        You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take?

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                        Hey, sunburn can be dangerous. :rolleyes: Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong

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                        • J Jason Henderson

                          You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take?

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                          Jason Henderson wrote: You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take? Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                            Cannot believe that Shannon is not on the list while other 'luminaries' like Martha Stewart made it in. Atleast they got Dr Salk. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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                            Ramanan Sivan wrote: Shannon Stan? :~ -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!

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                            • G Gary Thom

                              I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary

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                              Seriously. Doesn't he reflect the majority (as seen in the recent election) opinion? Answer honestly! He may not reflect YOUR opinion, but I think he DOES reflect the opinion of quite a few, umm, Americans. ;P Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                                Ramanan Sivan wrote: Shannon Stan? :~ -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!

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                                Surely Claude would rate higher than me! :laugh: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                                  Ramanan Sivan wrote: Shannon Stan? :~ -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!

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                                  Not really :) I meant the channel capacity Shannon. Best paper written (in my opinion) in the 1900's "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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                                    Jason Henderson wrote: You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take? Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote: Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. And their unemployment compensation, and their welfare, etc. Stan Shannon wrote: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." Isn't capitalism an outgrowth of freedom? Without a free marketplace, there is no capitalism. So then, what is the source of true freedom?

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                                      Seriously. Doesn't he reflect the majority (as seen in the recent election) opinion? Answer honestly! He may not reflect YOUR opinion, but I think he DOES reflect the opinion of quite a few, umm, Americans. ;P Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                                      I accept. But honestly, I do think Davy Crockett and Robert E. Lee should also be considered - my two favorite Americans. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                                      • J Jason Henderson

                                        Stan Shannon wrote: Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. And their unemployment compensation, and their welfare, etc. Stan Shannon wrote: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." Isn't capitalism an outgrowth of freedom? Without a free marketplace, there is no capitalism. So then, what is the source of true freedom?

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                                        Jason Henderson wrote: Isn't capitalism an outgrowth of freedom? Without a free marketplace, there is no capitalism. I don't distinquish between the free market and capitalism. They are one and the same. Jason Henderson wrote: So then, what is the source of true freedom? Obviously, the creator. However, capitalism is the real world engine that gives meaning to the notion of an individual pursueing happiness as he best sees fit. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."

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                                        • G Gary Thom

                                          I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary

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                                          The CBC did the same thing for the greatest Canadian[^]. IMO they picked the wrong guy. Terry Fox and Frederick Banting should have been the top two.


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