What makes an American?
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I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary
My biggest problem is that there are too many entertainers on that list. To me "great" means people who have actually done something on their own volition to better humanity. If they had never been born, the world would have been a much poorer place. Maybe a "Most Popular" would be a better term IMHO.
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My biggest problem is that there are too many entertainers on that list. To me "great" means people who have actually done something on their own volition to better humanity. If they had never been born, the world would have been a much poorer place. Maybe a "Most Popular" would be a better term IMHO.
JWood wrote: Maybe a "Most Popular" would be a better term IMHO. Well, anytime you have people voting on it, it's just a popularity contest, so that's pretty much implied. The name is just a hint as to how you should decide. Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong
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If you can get to the US coast and then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of, and are willing to stand on your own two feet and make your own way through life by your own abilities, without depending on government to do it for you - you are an American. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote: then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of Trolling again? ;P It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... Anger is the most impotent of passions. It effects nothing it goes about, and hurts the one who is possessed by it more than the one against whom it is directed. Carl Sandburg
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Stan Shannon wrote: then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of Trolling again? ;P It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... Anger is the most impotent of passions. It effects nothing it goes about, and hurts the one who is possessed by it more than the one against whom it is directed. Carl Sandburg
Rob Graham wrote: Trolling again? Not at all, I truly believe that. Rob Graham wrote: It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... I disagree. Being an American is all about rejecting the values of the old world - utterly and completely - in order to become something new. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary
Cannot believe that Shannon is not on the list while other 'luminaries' like Martha Stewart made it in. Atleast they got Dr Salk. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."
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Stan Shannon wrote: then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of Trolling again? ;P It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... Anger is the most impotent of passions. It effects nothing it goes about, and hurts the one who is possessed by it more than the one against whom it is directed. Carl Sandburg
Rob Graham wrote: Stan Shannon wrote: then turn around and say "kiss my ass" to whatever old world rat hole you managed to crawl out of Rob Graham wrote: It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... Well I don't know why but I've found it very american, too. David Never forget: "Stay kul and happy" (I.A.)
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Eh, well, there's ideals and then there's reality. Can't have'em take'n ur jerbs naw... Medication for us all You think you know me, well you're wrong
You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take?
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You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take?
"Live long and prosper." - Spock
Jason Henderson
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You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take?
"Live long and prosper." - Spock
Jason Henderson
blogJason Henderson wrote: You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take? Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Cannot believe that Shannon is not on the list while other 'luminaries' like Martha Stewart made it in. Atleast they got Dr Salk. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."
Ramanan Sivan wrote: Shannon Stan? :~ -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!
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Ramanan Sivan wrote: Shannon Stan? :~ -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!
Surely Claude would rate higher than me! :laugh: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary
Seriously. Doesn't he reflect the majority (as seen in the recent election) opinion? Answer honestly! He may not reflect YOUR opinion, but I think he DOES reflect the opinion of quite a few, umm, Americans. ;P Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
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Ramanan Sivan wrote: Shannon Stan? :~ -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!
Not really :) I meant the channel capacity Shannon. Best paper written (in my opinion) in the 1900's "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."
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Jason Henderson wrote: You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take? Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote: Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. And their unemployment compensation, and their welfare, etc. Stan Shannon wrote: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." Isn't capitalism an outgrowth of freedom? Without a free marketplace, there is no capitalism. So then, what is the source of true freedom?
"Live long and prosper." - Spock
Jason Henderson
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Seriously. Doesn't he reflect the majority (as seen in the recent election) opinion? Answer honestly! He may not reflect YOUR opinion, but I think he DOES reflect the opinion of quite a few, umm, Americans. ;P Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
I accept. But honestly, I do think Davy Crockett and Robert E. Lee should also be considered - my two favorite Americans. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Stan Shannon wrote: Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. And their unemployment compensation, and their welfare, etc. Stan Shannon wrote: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." Isn't capitalism an outgrowth of freedom? Without a free marketplace, there is no capitalism. So then, what is the source of true freedom?
"Live long and prosper." - Spock
Jason Henderson
blogJason Henderson wrote: Isn't capitalism an outgrowth of freedom? Without a free marketplace, there is no capitalism. I don't distinquish between the free market and capitalism. They are one and the same. Jason Henderson wrote: So then, what is the source of true freedom? Obviously, the creator. However, capitalism is the real world engine that gives meaning to the notion of an individual pursueing happiness as he best sees fit. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary
The CBC did the same thing for the greatest Canadian[^]. IMO they picked the wrong guy. Terry Fox and Frederick Banting should have been the top two.
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Rob Graham wrote: Trolling again? Not at all, I truly believe that. Rob Graham wrote: It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... I disagree. Being an American is all about rejecting the values of the old world - utterly and completely - in order to become something new. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote: I disagree. Being an American is all about rejecting the values of the old world - utterly and completely - in order to become something new. Be careful. There is plenty about my "Old World Heritage" that I am proud of and hold dear. That heritage is Polish and the values: hard work, brook no bullshit from anyone, strong sense of family, bias towards a religous POV - are all things I attribute to that heritage. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
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Stan Shannon wrote: I disagree. Being an American is all about rejecting the values of the old world - utterly and completely - in order to become something new. Be careful. There is plenty about my "Old World Heritage" that I am proud of and hold dear. That heritage is Polish and the values: hard work, brook no bullshit from anyone, strong sense of family, bias towards a religous POV - are all things I attribute to that heritage. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
Being almost 100% Scots-Irish, I suppose my people left it all right at the water line in about 1718 or so. But then, the Scots-Irish were Americans before they ever even got here, so maybe I'm wrong about that. The frontier just gave them the freedom to finally be what they had always wanted to be - violent, illiterate, opinionated, xenophobic, racist, alcoholic trailer trash. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
