What makes an American?
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Ramanan Sivan wrote: Shannon Stan? :~ -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!
Surely Claude would rate higher than me! :laugh: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Ramanan Sivan wrote: Shannon Stan? :~ -- Schni Schna Schnappi! Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp!
Not really :) I meant the channel capacity Shannon. Best paper written (in my opinion) in the 1900's "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."
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Jason Henderson wrote: You mean those jobs even unemployed Americans won't take? Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote: Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. And their unemployment compensation, and their welfare, etc. Stan Shannon wrote: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." Isn't capitalism an outgrowth of freedom? Without a free marketplace, there is no capitalism. So then, what is the source of true freedom?
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Seriously. Doesn't he reflect the majority (as seen in the recent election) opinion? Answer honestly! He may not reflect YOUR opinion, but I think he DOES reflect the opinion of quite a few, umm, Americans. ;P Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
I accept. But honestly, I do think Davy Crockett and Robert E. Lee should also be considered - my two favorite Americans. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Stan Shannon wrote: Stop their food stamps and they will damn sure take them. And their unemployment compensation, and their welfare, etc. Stan Shannon wrote: "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." Isn't capitalism an outgrowth of freedom? Without a free marketplace, there is no capitalism. So then, what is the source of true freedom?
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blogJason Henderson wrote: Isn't capitalism an outgrowth of freedom? Without a free marketplace, there is no capitalism. I don't distinquish between the free market and capitalism. They are one and the same. Jason Henderson wrote: So then, what is the source of true freedom? Obviously, the creator. However, capitalism is the real world engine that gives meaning to the notion of an individual pursueing happiness as he best sees fit. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary
The CBC did the same thing for the greatest Canadian[^]. IMO they picked the wrong guy. Terry Fox and Frederick Banting should have been the top two.
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Rob Graham wrote: Trolling again? Not at all, I truly believe that. Rob Graham wrote: It really isn't necessay to reject one's heritage to become an American, IMO... I disagree. Being an American is all about rejecting the values of the old world - utterly and completely - in order to become something new. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote: I disagree. Being an American is all about rejecting the values of the old world - utterly and completely - in order to become something new. Be careful. There is plenty about my "Old World Heritage" that I am proud of and hold dear. That heritage is Polish and the values: hard work, brook no bullshit from anyone, strong sense of family, bias towards a religous POV - are all things I attribute to that heritage. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
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Stan Shannon wrote: I disagree. Being an American is all about rejecting the values of the old world - utterly and completely - in order to become something new. Be careful. There is plenty about my "Old World Heritage" that I am proud of and hold dear. That heritage is Polish and the values: hard work, brook no bullshit from anyone, strong sense of family, bias towards a religous POV - are all things I attribute to that heritage. Mike "liberals were driven crazy by Bush." Me To: Dixie Sluts, M. Moore, the Boss, Bon Jovi, Clooney, Penn, Babs, Soros, Redford, Gore, Daschle - "bye bye" Me "I voted for W." Me "There you go again." RR "Flushed the Johns" Me K(arl) wrote: Date:8:50 23 Feb '05 I love you.
Being almost 100% Scots-Irish, I suppose my people left it all right at the water line in about 1718 or so. But then, the Scots-Irish were Americans before they ever even got here, so maybe I'm wrong about that. The frontier just gave them the freedom to finally be what they had always wanted to be - violent, illiterate, opinionated, xenophobic, racist, alcoholic trailer trash. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Being almost 100% Scots-Irish, I suppose my people left it all right at the water line in about 1718 or so. But then, the Scots-Irish were Americans before they ever even got here, so maybe I'm wrong about that. The frontier just gave them the freedom to finally be what they had always wanted to be - violent, illiterate, opinionated, xenophobic, racist, alcoholic trailer trash. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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But I left out independent - very, very independent and self sufficient ... and brave... and tough ... never yielding or surrenduring or wallowing in self pity like those they left behind in Europe - American to the core. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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The CBC did the same thing for the greatest Canadian[^]. IMO they picked the wrong guy. Terry Fox and Frederick Banting should have been the top two.
"You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 "Obviously ??? You're definitely a superstar!!!" mYkel - 21 Jun '04 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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in France too : http://programmes.france2.fr/leplusgrandfrancais/8709130-fr.php[^] (in french) 1. Charles de Gaulle 2. Louis Pasteur 3. Abbé Pierre 4. Marie Curie 5. Coluche 6. Victor Hugo 7. Bourvil 8. Molière 9. Jacques Yves Cousteau 10. Edith Piaf
Stephane
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in France too : http://programmes.france2.fr/leplusgrandfrancais/8709130-fr.php[^] (in french) 1. Charles de Gaulle 2. Louis Pasteur 3. Abbé Pierre 4. Marie Curie 5. Coluche 6. Victor Hugo 7. Bourvil 8. Molière 9. Jacques Yves Cousteau 10. Edith Piaf
Stephane
Stephane Routelous wrote: in France too : Geez, I'm surprised they didn't list those two guys that went up and down Europe in an attempt to figure out the exact length of the meter! Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
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I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary
Following on with the other posts, we had a Greatest Briton Poll here in the UK too last Christmas. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2002/11_november/25/greatbritons_final.shtml[^] I voted for Brunel, from the case made by Jeremy Clarkson. I'm glad he made second. Gracious in the face of defeat, [Clarkson] said: "Although it's disappointing, I'd like to thank everyone who voted for Brunel as it's still a tremendous triumph for engineering. "I reckon an enormous amount of votes from America helped win it for Churchill - Americans have once again interfered in our affairs!" In case you don't know, Jeremy Clarkson[^] is amongst other things a popular and very funny motoring journalist over here. He had a TV talkshow for a season in which he removed America from the map and threw it in the bin. He doesn't like America, Europe or the now bust MG Rover. :rolleyes:
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Seriously. Doesn't he reflect the majority (as seen in the recent election) opinion? Answer honestly! He may not reflect YOUR opinion, but I think he DOES reflect the opinion of quite a few, umm, Americans. ;P Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO
Marc Clifton wrote: Doesn't he reflect the majority (as seen in the recent election) opinion? no. Image Toolkits | Image Processing | Cleek
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I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsere_Besten[^] 1 Konrad Adenauer, Politiker (1876-1967) 2 Martin Luther, Kirchenreformator (1483-1546) 3 Karl Marx, Sozialwissenschaftler (1818-1883) 4 Sophie und Hans Scholl, Widerstandskämpfer (1921/1918-1943) 5 Willy Brandt, Politiker (1913-1992) 6 Johann Sebastian Bach, Komponist (1685-1750) 7 Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Schriftsteller (1749-1832) 8 Johannes Gutenberg, Erfinder des Buchdrucks (1400-1468) 9 Otto von Bismarck, Politiker (1815-1898) 10 Albert Einstein, Naturwissenschaftler (1879-1955)
Stephane
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in France too : http://programmes.france2.fr/leplusgrandfrancais/8709130-fr.php[^] (in french) 1. Charles de Gaulle 2. Louis Pasteur 3. Abbé Pierre 4. Marie Curie 5. Coluche 6. Victor Hugo 7. Bourvil 8. Molière 9. Jacques Yves Cousteau 10. Edith Piaf
Stephane
That's a most impressive list ... but I don't really know who Bourvil is ( even after reading the bio ) ?
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in France too : http://programmes.france2.fr/leplusgrandfrancais/8709130-fr.php[^] (in french) 1. Charles de Gaulle 2. Louis Pasteur 3. Abbé Pierre 4. Marie Curie 5. Coluche 6. Victor Hugo 7. Bourvil 8. Molière 9. Jacques Yves Cousteau 10. Edith Piaf
Stephane
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That's a most impressive list ... but I don't really know who Bourvil is ( even after reading the bio ) ?
Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad
an actor/singer/comic http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0100186/[^]. try to get "La traversee de Paris" , "la grande vadrouille" or "Le corniaud" at "La boite noire" ;-) (if I remember correctly, you're living in Montreal)
Stephane
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The CBC did the same thing for the greatest Canadian[^]. IMO they picked the wrong guy. Terry Fox and Frederick Banting should have been the top two.
"You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 "Obviously ??? You're definitely a superstar!!!" mYkel - 21 Jun '04 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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Yeah, everyone in my house voted for Terry Fox. Take the poll again in a few years when the baby boomers have died off and you won't find Tommy Douglas at the top of the list anymore I gurantee it. When did health care become such an all-consuming obsession in this country? The whole thing is a bit absurd, the politicians cater to it, so does the media, fact is that for 99% of the populace the health care system works just fine, for the 1% that it doesn't we get 90% of the air time during an election.
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I was watching the Discovery channel the other night and an advert came up for the "Greatest American" poll. One of the nominees was Albert Einstein, given he was born in Germany I decided to have a look see who else was nominated. Greatest American Poll[^] Andrew Carnegie - Scottish Albert Einstein - German Mel Gibson - Australian Alexander Hamilton - was born on the West Indies island of Nevis. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Austrian Gary
I'm not 100% certain, but I strongly suspect this is the first EVER link to AOL from CodeProject! :laugh:
"In our civilization, and under our republican form of government, intelligence is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of office." - Ambrose Bierce
