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I have noticed a stack of yanks don't "get" either English or Australian humor, hence these posts come from Yanks who have no cultural acceptance of other humor forms. So let's say you post what you want, using your own idioms and cultural values. Let's suppose that post was insulting to someone from another culture. Then either: a) that person who complains has no cultural acceptance of other humor forms. b) you have no cultural understanding of how others would take your post. Australians and New Zealanders are not insulted by much, but other cultures can find some of the innocent remarks we make as highly offensive (or simply don't understand the humour). This is not an Australian site, or a Canadian site, or an American or Indian site. It's a global site, and many or the readers here have English as a second (or third) language so many have to take what's written as literal. You can either say 'everyone is stupid if they don't understand my humour' or you can realise that not everyone thinks like you. Cultural insensitivity goes both ways. Yes, it may mean either finding the lowest common denominator of communication, or being more clear about who your post is targeting (or what you are trying to say). cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
Gee Chris I think you have taken the Mike Dunn course on Internet Debating to heart. (its somewhere else in rant and rave) You have missed the point entirely ! What I'm saying is post it publically, don't go to all the trouble of posting it privatly, its almost as bad as posting annonomously. I do realise this is a global site and would never slag somebody off for trying to use English when it isn't there mother tongue.Doing that would be akin to racist or patriotic biggotry. Sure I'm not perfect and there are a stack of Yank jokes I just don't 'get' at all. So I ask if I want to find out what they are saying, and somtimes I still don't get the humor. Comedians such as Robin Williams, Seinfeld, Ronald Atkinson, Benny Hill and others have made the transatlantic leap, but most comedians haven't. It's funny the private posts I have recieved have all come from low posters at CP not regulars. Sure Australians and New Zealanders have a far thicker skin when it comes to humour than other cultures. However I'm sure I'm just like you when I/we try to understand and tolerate other cultures. It was sad to see Nish get abused the other day (I believe he took it as abuse) for posting what he sincerly believed was a funny comment. I admit I don't get his humor 100% of the time but I certainly respect his right to enjoy that said humour. Yes, it may mean either finding the lowest common denominator of communication, or being more clear about who your post is targeting (or what you are trying to say). That line has confused me, I better check Mike Dunn's rules of Internet debating again to work out the significance of making obscure remarks like that. Hey, is it raining, and how are you going to differentiate cultures in the spell checker? Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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Gee Chris I think you have taken the Mike Dunn course on Internet Debating to heart. (its somewhere else in rant and rave) You have missed the point entirely ! What I'm saying is post it publically, don't go to all the trouble of posting it privatly, its almost as bad as posting annonomously. I do realise this is a global site and would never slag somebody off for trying to use English when it isn't there mother tongue.Doing that would be akin to racist or patriotic biggotry. Sure I'm not perfect and there are a stack of Yank jokes I just don't 'get' at all. So I ask if I want to find out what they are saying, and somtimes I still don't get the humor. Comedians such as Robin Williams, Seinfeld, Ronald Atkinson, Benny Hill and others have made the transatlantic leap, but most comedians haven't. It's funny the private posts I have recieved have all come from low posters at CP not regulars. Sure Australians and New Zealanders have a far thicker skin when it comes to humour than other cultures. However I'm sure I'm just like you when I/we try to understand and tolerate other cultures. It was sad to see Nish get abused the other day (I believe he took it as abuse) for posting what he sincerly believed was a funny comment. I admit I don't get his humor 100% of the time but I certainly respect his right to enjoy that said humour. Yes, it may mean either finding the lowest common denominator of communication, or being more clear about who your post is targeting (or what you are trying to say). That line has confused me, I better check Mike Dunn's rules of Internet debating again to work out the significance of making obscure remarks like that. Hey, is it raining, and how are you going to differentiate cultures in the spell checker? Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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No matter what you ask people to do (don't send anonymous private emails, don't post programming questions in the forum, don't run with scissors) they will never do as you want - so instead of trying to suggest a solution to a problem that can't be helped I was trying to offer a solution to stopping the problem at it's root. If you want a direct answer to your rant then: Yes, it's annoying. Yes, people should show their face if they want to complain. Is that better? :P cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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No matter what you ask people to do (don't send anonymous private emails, don't post programming questions in the forum, don't run with scissors) they will never do as you want - so instead of trying to suggest a solution to a problem that can't be helped I was trying to offer a solution to stopping the problem at it's root. If you want a direct answer to your rant then: Yes, it's annoying. Yes, people should show their face if they want to complain. Is that better? :P cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
Ok then following Mike Dunn's rules I'll have the last word, Is that better Yes it is, Hey you sure are one hard guy to draw into an arguement Chris, Your Mum obviously talk you table manners and diplomatic skills. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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Ok then following Mike Dunn's rules I'll have the last word, Is that better Yes it is, Hey you sure are one hard guy to draw into an arguement Chris, Your Mum obviously talk you table manners and diplomatic skills. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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Just up to my proverbials in work :( cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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Just a bitch, Hi, Why do I keep recieving people whining about my Posts in the Lounge. I respect that people disagree with my opinions or think I'm talking twaddle. Fine. But why not say so on the public message board area, why send me private messages saying my posts are shit. Huh, to me these private messages are from real wimps. Do you get them or don't you talk twaddle much, most of us do. I have noticed a stack of yanks don't "get" either English or Australian humor, hence these posts come from Yanks who have no cultural acceptance of other humor forms. One thing I like about John Simmons is if I or someone else talks shit he says so. And he has an arrogant demeanour, he doesn't go posting private messages. I could publish these limp wristed private message posters but I won't, if I ever meet one I'll king hit the bastards to smithereens, for being such a limp wristed wankers. [end of rant] Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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Why do I keep recieving people whining about my Posts in the Lounge. Hm... Just an idea, but since you put your email address in your signature it kinda looks like you are "inviting" them to write you... Try removing it and see if any change, just for the sake of experiment... ;)
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Why do I keep recieving people whining about my Posts in the Lounge. Hm... Just an idea, but since you put your email address in your signature it kinda looks like you are "inviting" them to write you... Try removing it and see if any change, just for the sake of experiment... ;)
Hm... Just an idea, You could be right George, however the messages come through the codeproject send private function. I've removed it now anyhow. I'm not against folk sending to me privatly questions or chat etc, but if you want to bitch and complain about another CPer do it publiclly. So you yourself can be brought up for ridicule. I guess George I just don't appreciate annonimity and wallys who hide behind there cyber identity. Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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Just up to my proverbials in work :( cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
Just up to my proverbials in work Ok I'll let you get on with it then. Hope the weather holds out for you then Bye, :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Hm... Just an idea, You could be right George, however the messages come through the codeproject send private function. I've removed it now anyhow. I'm not against folk sending to me privatly questions or chat etc, but if you want to bitch and complain about another CPer do it publiclly. So you yourself can be brought up for ridicule. I guess George I just don't appreciate annonimity and wallys who hide behind there cyber identity. Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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Hm... Just an idea, You could be right George, however the messages come through the codeproject send private function. I've removed it now anyhow. I'm not against folk sending to me privatly questions or chat etc, but if you want to bitch and complain about another CPer do it publiclly. So you yourself can be brought up for ridicule. I guess George I just don't appreciate annonimity and wallys who hide behind there cyber identity. Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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Colin I've had my email address and phone number in my signature since day dot on Code Project (even though my details says I joined in July 2000 it was really November/December 1999). I have responded personally and abusively to idiots at times and have never received a email from them. The few I have received were in response to non abusive posts and the author always had something constructive to say. Also seemed to be to a thread I most likely would not see the reply if it wasn't emailed to me. So don't bother taking the email out of the signature it won't help, they'll get it from your Code Project details. Anyway the real reason you get abuse is cause your a Sheep Humpin' Kiwi, so live with it. ;P Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Colin I've had my email address and phone number in my signature since day dot on Code Project (even though my details says I joined in July 2000 it was really November/December 1999). I have responded personally and abusively to idiots at times and have never received a email from them. The few I have received were in response to non abusive posts and the author always had something constructive to say. Also seemed to be to a thread I most likely would not see the reply if it wasn't emailed to me. So don't bother taking the email out of the signature it won't help, they'll get it from your Code Project details. Anyway the real reason you get abuse is cause your a Sheep Humpin' Kiwi, so live with it. ;P Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Michael, It is your perogative to reply personally, If I were to write to you personally it would be to invite you to share a sheep , I mean shear a sheep, as it's such fun. And I wouldn't want any others to get in the way. so it would be just us. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Michael, It is your perogative to reply personally, If I were to write to you personally it would be to invite you to share a sheep , I mean shear a sheep, as it's such fun. And I wouldn't want any others to get in the way. so it would be just us. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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...share a sheep , I mean shear a sheep... Nice play on words, haven't seen that one before though I am sure it was old when Moses was a boy. :-D Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Just a bitch, Hi, Why do I keep recieving people whining about my Posts in the Lounge. I respect that people disagree with my opinions or think I'm talking twaddle. Fine. But why not say so on the public message board area, why send me private messages saying my posts are shit. Huh, to me these private messages are from real wimps. Do you get them or don't you talk twaddle much, most of us do. I have noticed a stack of yanks don't "get" either English or Australian humor, hence these posts come from Yanks who have no cultural acceptance of other humor forms. One thing I like about John Simmons is if I or someone else talks shit he says so. And he has an arrogant demeanour, he doesn't go posting private messages. I could publish these limp wristed private message posters but I won't, if I ever meet one I'll king hit the bastards to smithereens, for being such a limp wristed wankers. [end of rant] Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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Sometimes annoimity comes in handy when some nasty opinionated stupid-asses throw their shit at you.
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Colin I've had my email address and phone number in my signature since day dot on Code Project (even though my details says I joined in July 2000 it was really November/December 1999). I have responded personally and abusively to idiots at times and have never received a email from them. The few I have received were in response to non abusive posts and the author always had something constructive to say. Also seemed to be to a thread I most likely would not see the reply if it wasn't emailed to me. So don't bother taking the email out of the signature it won't help, they'll get it from your Code Project details. Anyway the real reason you get abuse is cause your a Sheep Humpin' Kiwi, so live with it. ;P Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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> ...your a Sheep Humpin' Kiwi... Now *that* is funny! LOLOL "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
You haven't come across the Aussie/Kiwi trade in insults? The most inventive insult I ever got was 'upside-down roo f***er'. :) cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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f you can't stand the heat, get the fuck outa our kitchen. "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
Could anybody tell me if this is a right f*** off sequence: rave.. rave... // raving inside the CP kitchen footfall.. footfall.. // approaching footsteps Baa..Baa.. // loud bleats of great torment in the background grunt..grunt.. // f*** off command issued yelp.. yelp... yelp.. // gets booted at escape velocity ma.... yelp... ma.. // lifts off ................. // receding view of the master of the beasts // and his harem of quadrapeds daa da daa daa-daa daa-daa.// floats in cyberspace ,space odessy theme in // the background Baa ba baa baa-baa baa-baa.// heard on earth - celebration of 2 millionth // line of genetic code
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Just a bitch, Hi, Why do I keep recieving people whining about my Posts in the Lounge. I respect that people disagree with my opinions or think I'm talking twaddle. Fine. But why not say so on the public message board area, why send me private messages saying my posts are shit. Huh, to me these private messages are from real wimps. Do you get them or don't you talk twaddle much, most of us do. I have noticed a stack of yanks don't "get" either English or Australian humor, hence these posts come from Yanks who have no cultural acceptance of other humor forms. One thing I like about John Simmons is if I or someone else talks shit he says so. And he has an arrogant demeanour, he doesn't go posting private messages. I could publish these limp wristed private message posters but I won't, if I ever meet one I'll king hit the bastards to smithereens, for being such a limp wristed wankers. [end of rant] Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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I have noticed a stack of yanks don't "get" either English or Australian humor, hence these posts come from Yanks who have no cultural acceptance of other humor forms. The same yanks who complain when we don't get their humour :) (maybe we should flood America with cheap b-grade Australian, Kiwi and South African sitcoms...) Do you get them or don't you talk twaddle much, most of us do. Well as John often points out I talk tons of twaddle but I must admit I have never received a private message beratting my post. I got a private message from Microsoft once telling me to stop bashing Microsoft Content Management *cough* bollocks *cough* Server on CP... (just kidding, Colin (Bowern)! :-D ) I think the old adage of "it must have hit a nerve" rings true with your posts Colin. Keep them up though, those pillow biters are learning a valuable lesson in real life by being here :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
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Hm... Just an idea, You could be right George, however the messages come through the codeproject send private function. I've removed it now anyhow. I'm not against folk sending to me privatly questions or chat etc, but if you want to bitch and complain about another CPer do it publiclly. So you yourself can be brought up for ridicule. I guess George I just don't appreciate annonimity and wallys who hide behind there cyber identity. Regardz Colin J Davies colin@vmtu.com
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