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    Jon Sagara
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    For the past couple of years, I have been using my "boot disk" that loads CD ROM drivers, allows me to run fdisk, and allows me to format my FAT drives. However, the max partition size I can create is 2GB, and it can only be a FAT partition. I want to be able to boot up with a disk, wipe out existing partitions, create 2 (or more) NTFS partitions of arbitrary size (say, 10 GB each), format those partitions, and then install the OS. Can I do this with Partition Magic? Are there alternative/better tools out there that will allow me to do the same thing? Thanks, Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera

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      For the past couple of years, I have been using my "boot disk" that loads CD ROM drivers, allows me to run fdisk, and allows me to format my FAT drives. However, the max partition size I can create is 2GB, and it can only be a FAT partition. I want to be able to boot up with a disk, wipe out existing partitions, create 2 (or more) NTFS partitions of arbitrary size (say, 10 GB each), format those partitions, and then install the OS. Can I do this with Partition Magic? Are there alternative/better tools out there that will allow me to do the same thing? Thanks, Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera

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      Hi, Not sure about using Partition Magic, but your first problem is that the FDisk on your boot disk is not the latest version. You need to use a Windows 98 or later startup disk, and when you start FDisk from the command prompt, it will ask you whether or not to enable large disk support. You can set up your partitions from there. Then, format them as FAT(32). Now, you can install your operating system(s). If you are installing Windows 2000 or Windows XP if you tell it you want to select the installation partition in the Advanced options then can convert the partiiton to NTFS, or alternatively install on the FAT disk then use Partition Magic to convert to NTFS after the fact. I've installed XP from an upgrade disc as follows to achieve what you seem to be getting at; 1. Using Win98 startup disk from ages ago to FDisk and delete all partitions (I deleted the only NTFS partition on the disk which had Win2k on). 2. Create a new primary partition 3. Restart with startup disk again then format the partition and install say Win98. Leave the partition as FAT. 4. Install Win95/98/Me into a folder named "WinR" 5. Put the XP disc in and start the a NEW installation. In the advanced options tell it you want to select the partition during setup. 6. When it says it will restart, tell it you'll do it manually, insert your win98 startup disk then restart. 7. type the following;

      copy WinR\command\deltree.* c:\
      deltree winr
      [enter yes and wait for the folder to be deleted]
      deltree progra~1
      [enter yes and wait for the folder to be deleted]
      deltree mydocu~1
      [enter yes and wait for the folder to be deleted]

      8. Now restart without the disk and the boot menu select the Windows XP Setup option and continue with the installation. Select the partition you want to install to and tell it to convert to NTFS. -- Ok, hope that all made sense cause I typed it quick :-). -- Andrew.

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        Hi, Not sure about using Partition Magic, but your first problem is that the FDisk on your boot disk is not the latest version. You need to use a Windows 98 or later startup disk, and when you start FDisk from the command prompt, it will ask you whether or not to enable large disk support. You can set up your partitions from there. Then, format them as FAT(32). Now, you can install your operating system(s). If you are installing Windows 2000 or Windows XP if you tell it you want to select the installation partition in the Advanced options then can convert the partiiton to NTFS, or alternatively install on the FAT disk then use Partition Magic to convert to NTFS after the fact. I've installed XP from an upgrade disc as follows to achieve what you seem to be getting at; 1. Using Win98 startup disk from ages ago to FDisk and delete all partitions (I deleted the only NTFS partition on the disk which had Win2k on). 2. Create a new primary partition 3. Restart with startup disk again then format the partition and install say Win98. Leave the partition as FAT. 4. Install Win95/98/Me into a folder named "WinR" 5. Put the XP disc in and start the a NEW installation. In the advanced options tell it you want to select the partition during setup. 6. When it says it will restart, tell it you'll do it manually, insert your win98 startup disk then restart. 7. type the following;

        copy WinR\command\deltree.* c:\
        deltree winr
        [enter yes and wait for the folder to be deleted]
        deltree progra~1
        [enter yes and wait for the folder to be deleted]
        deltree mydocu~1
        [enter yes and wait for the folder to be deleted]

        8. Now restart without the disk and the boot menu select the Windows XP Setup option and continue with the installation. Select the partition you want to install to and tell it to convert to NTFS. -- Ok, hope that all made sense cause I typed it quick :-). -- Andrew.

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        Jon Sagara
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        Ok, so it sounds like I just need an updated startup disk. What is the command to create one? I forget, but it seems to me it is something like sys a:. Thanks, Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera

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          For the past couple of years, I have been using my "boot disk" that loads CD ROM drivers, allows me to run fdisk, and allows me to format my FAT drives. However, the max partition size I can create is 2GB, and it can only be a FAT partition. I want to be able to boot up with a disk, wipe out existing partitions, create 2 (or more) NTFS partitions of arbitrary size (say, 10 GB each), format those partitions, and then install the OS. Can I do this with Partition Magic? Are there alternative/better tools out there that will allow me to do the same thing? Thanks, Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera

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          Why don't you just boon on a NT/Win2k/WinXP CD Rom, and do it from the installer? There's an okay partition manager in the setup... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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            Why don't you just boon on a NT/Win2k/WinXP CD Rom, and do it from the installer? There's an okay partition manager in the setup... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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            Jon Sagara
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            Do I have to have a bootable CD ROM? My older computers do not... Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera

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              Do I have to have a bootable CD ROM? My older computers do not... Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera

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              From the NT and Win2k CD's, you can make boot disks (floppy disks). Then you boot on those disks, which has drivers for the CD, and the installation continues from the CD... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                From the NT and Win2k CD's, you can make boot disks (floppy disks). Then you boot on those disks, which has drivers for the CD, and the installation continues from the CD... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                Jon Sagara
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                Ok, thanks. I was trying to avoid the NT boot disks because you need 4 of them (I think). Just me being simple, I guess. :) Thanks again Anders, Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera

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                  For the past couple of years, I have been using my "boot disk" that loads CD ROM drivers, allows me to run fdisk, and allows me to format my FAT drives. However, the max partition size I can create is 2GB, and it can only be a FAT partition. I want to be able to boot up with a disk, wipe out existing partitions, create 2 (or more) NTFS partitions of arbitrary size (say, 10 GB each), format those partitions, and then install the OS. Can I do this with Partition Magic? Are there alternative/better tools out there that will allow me to do the same thing? Thanks, Jon Sagara "Ninety percent of baseball is mental, the other half is physical." -- Yogi Bera

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                  Here I will tell you the most simple method to your question, use an win98 boot disk boot your computer,and use fdisk,it could create an partition larger than 2G,:) then create extend partition,and logic partition,but win2000 cd-disk,could boot from cd-room,you even didn't have to create a win98 boot disk,use your win2000 disk,but if you win2000 is pirate,you must need win98/winme boot disk ,then got into the /i386 directory,and type winnt or winnt32 to run your win2000 setup, :confused: I love php but asp is also good,so if you need it I could help you with both of them! Enjoy your programming!

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