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    recently i discovered i could design web site using css instead of tables. and i am quite fasinated with this concept. So could any one refer to any site which contain resources that helps me design web site using css And i not quite sure about it advantage over traditional method of designing web pages using tables could any one elaborate on that too. leo Kathmandu, Nepal -- modified at 2:31 Sunday 28th August, 2005

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      recently i discovered i could design web site using css instead of tables. and i am quite fasinated with this concept. So could any one refer to any site which contain resources that helps me design web site using css And i not quite sure about it advantage over traditional method of designing web pages using tables could any one elaborate on that too. leo Kathmandu, Nepal -- modified at 2:31 Sunday 28th August, 2005

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      Here you can look at really good css designs: Zen Garden[^] The major advantage of using css for layout is that css is made for layout. The table tag is ment for making tables, not layout. The only reason that tables was ever used for layout is that there was no alternative before css. Now there is. Css to the resque. Where a table will resist you in every possible way (because it really doesn't want to do layout), css will work with you instead. It takes a while to get the hang of it, but once you have, you will never ever want to go back. If you do it right, you will be rewarded with html code that is a tenth the size of the table-in-table-in-table-in-table-in-table code full of transparent gif images. Welcome to the future. :) --- b { font-weight: normal; }

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        recently i discovered i could design web site using css instead of tables. and i am quite fasinated with this concept. So could any one refer to any site which contain resources that helps me design web site using css And i not quite sure about it advantage over traditional method of designing web pages using tables could any one elaborate on that too. leo Kathmandu, Nepal -- modified at 2:31 Sunday 28th August, 2005

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        Here's another one [^]


        Work hard, Work effectively.

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          recently i discovered i could design web site using css instead of tables. and i am quite fasinated with this concept. So could any one refer to any site which contain resources that helps me design web site using css And i not quite sure about it advantage over traditional method of designing web pages using tables could any one elaborate on that too. leo Kathmandu, Nepal -- modified at 2:31 Sunday 28th August, 2005

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          Also, try this mailing list and their associated wiki http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d

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            Here you can look at really good css designs: Zen Garden[^] The major advantage of using css for layout is that css is made for layout. The table tag is ment for making tables, not layout. The only reason that tables was ever used for layout is that there was no alternative before css. Now there is. Css to the resque. Where a table will resist you in every possible way (because it really doesn't want to do layout), css will work with you instead. It takes a while to get the hang of it, but once you have, you will never ever want to go back. If you do it right, you will be rewarded with html code that is a tenth the size of the table-in-table-in-table-in-table-in-table code full of transparent gif images. Welcome to the future. :) --- b { font-weight: normal; }

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            The concept of "tableless design" is all fine and dandy, but in reality, it's almost impossible to pull off because of the varying levels of conformity exhibited by the various browsers, and designing for one browser (IE) is not only arrogant, it enforces (and endorses) Microsoft's monopoly on the market. I use tables to constrain the divs because in many cases, that's the only way I could get it to work across numerous browsers. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              The concept of "tableless design" is all fine and dandy, but in reality, it's almost impossible to pull off because of the varying levels of conformity exhibited by the various browsers, and designing for one browser (IE) is not only arrogant, it enforces (and endorses) Microsoft's monopoly on the market. I use tables to constrain the divs because in many cases, that's the only way I could get it to work across numerous browsers. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              Actually, IE is one of the biggest problems when implementing layout. As it contains so many rendering bugs, there are many things in the css standard that you just cannot use. If one could design only for non-IE browsers, it would be a lot easier. Tableless designs are not impossible, it's just hard. Then again, using tables for layout is also hard. If you find it hard to do layout without tables, make yourself a favour and learn how to do it. Otherwise you will be stuck in table hell forever. "He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail." -- Abraham Maslow --- b { font-weight: normal; }

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