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    Jim A Johnson
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    How high will the indictments reach? Cheney? Even higher? New York Daily News source believes senior White House official has flipped in leak case[^] Of course it's far too early to start crowing, but I'm gonna go buy some party hats anyway. -- modified at 1:05 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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      How high will the indictments reach? Cheney? Even higher? New York Daily News source believes senior White House official has flipped in leak case[^] Of course it's far too early to start crowing, but I'm gonna go buy some party hats anyway. -- modified at 1:05 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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      Well, guess i'll be watching the news closely tomorrow... :) (BTW - you've a linebreak in your link, makes it hard to follow)

      I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...

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        How high will the indictments reach? Cheney? Even higher? New York Daily News source believes senior White House official has flipped in leak case[^] Of course it's far too early to start crowing, but I'm gonna go buy some party hats anyway. -- modified at 1:05 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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        I hope this doesn't turn into another Watergate/Clinton type scandal.

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          I hope this doesn't turn into another Watergate/Clinton type scandal.

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          rwestgraham
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          I agree. Bush/Cheney have cost the taxpayers enough. I see no point in spending more taxpayers money to try people any one with any sense can already recognize as crooks. The people fucked themselves by re-electing them. I would rather just see Cheney keep his ill-gotten Halliburton fortunes. No point in throwing still more good money after bad.

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            I agree. Bush/Cheney have cost the taxpayers enough. I see no point in spending more taxpayers money to try people any one with any sense can already recognize as crooks. The people fucked themselves by re-electing them. I would rather just see Cheney keep his ill-gotten Halliburton fortunes. No point in throwing still more good money after bad.

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            You are right. The Bush regime would rather go deeper in debt "Spreading Democracy" to oil-rich nations than try to pay off the trillions of national debt we already have.

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              Well, guess i'll be watching the news closely tomorrow... :) (BTW - you've a linebreak in your link, makes it hard to follow)

              I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...

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              Jim A Johnson
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              I fixed the links, thanks.

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                How high will the indictments reach? Cheney? Even higher? New York Daily News source believes senior White House official has flipped in leak case[^] Of course it's far too early to start crowing, but I'm gonna go buy some party hats anyway. -- modified at 1:05 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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                This[^] news that Dubya's grandfather was dealing with the Nazis long after the US joined the Second World War makes interesting reading. Pity that snippet of information wasn't more widely publicised before the last two presidential elections... Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.

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                  How high will the indictments reach? Cheney? Even higher? New York Daily News source believes senior White House official has flipped in leak case[^] Of course it's far too early to start crowing, but I'm gonna go buy some party hats anyway. -- modified at 1:05 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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                  Stan Shannon
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                  Your laundry bill must be enormous what with all the wet dreams you've been having over Karl Rove, Jimmy! Maybe when this tempest and in a teapot has past over, we can have an investigation into the real scandel of how an out of control political operative and his wife used her CIA office to try to influence the nation's democratic processes. Of course, I'm sure Raw Story will use its enormous research resources to keep us all well informed on the progress of real threats to our democracy. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." -- modified at 7:30 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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                    How high will the indictments reach? Cheney? Even higher? New York Daily News source believes senior White House official has flipped in leak case[^] Of course it's far too early to start crowing, but I'm gonna go buy some party hats anyway. -- modified at 1:05 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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                    it won't. here's my prediction: A couple of low-level nobodys will get their hands slapped for not making the "Secret, No Foreign" stamp dark enough on the memo that was circulated aboard AF1. At some House or Senate debriefing, Fitzgerald will caution the higher-ups against playing fast and loose with the law when it comes to national security. He'll hand out a couple of indictments, but only on tagential matters related to the investigation, not to the target of the investigation (ie. they'll be for purjury or obstruction), and they'll go to Libby, and maybe Bolton's assistant. Bush will pardon them all - this will be seen as proof of his strong moral character. Nobody will ask if Harriet Miers was in any way involved in the matter, or if she knows anything about it. When they're made public, the details of the investigation will raise more questions about the way BushCo played the WMD issue before their war, but there will be no way to pursue the matter because Congress will close ranks behind the widely unpopular President. Wingnuts will wet themselves in glee and launch multiple SwiftBoat attacks against Fitzgerald for daring to question All The President's Men. The other reporters who were contacted by the 'senior white house officials' (Russert, Matthews, Mitchell, etc) will never come clean about what they know and will continue to pretend they are mere observers. Twenty years from now, this will still be a subject of debate. Expect similar results from the DeLay matter. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 10:24 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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                      I agree. Bush/Cheney have cost the taxpayers enough. I see no point in spending more taxpayers money to try people any one with any sense can already recognize as crooks. The people fucked themselves by re-electing them. I would rather just see Cheney keep his ill-gotten Halliburton fortunes. No point in throwing still more good money after bad.

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                      rwestgraham wrote:

                      I would rather just see Cheney keep his ill-gotten Halliburton fortunes.

                      Really? what fortunes? Do you have a source?

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                        it won't. here's my prediction: A couple of low-level nobodys will get their hands slapped for not making the "Secret, No Foreign" stamp dark enough on the memo that was circulated aboard AF1. At some House or Senate debriefing, Fitzgerald will caution the higher-ups against playing fast and loose with the law when it comes to national security. He'll hand out a couple of indictments, but only on tagential matters related to the investigation, not to the target of the investigation (ie. they'll be for purjury or obstruction), and they'll go to Libby, and maybe Bolton's assistant. Bush will pardon them all - this will be seen as proof of his strong moral character. Nobody will ask if Harriet Miers was in any way involved in the matter, or if she knows anything about it. When they're made public, the details of the investigation will raise more questions about the way BushCo played the WMD issue before their war, but there will be no way to pursue the matter because Congress will close ranks behind the widely unpopular President. Wingnuts will wet themselves in glee and launch multiple SwiftBoat attacks against Fitzgerald for daring to question All The President's Men. The other reporters who were contacted by the 'senior white house officials' (Russert, Matthews, Mitchell, etc) will never come clean about what they know and will continue to pretend they are mere observers. Twenty years from now, this will still be a subject of debate. Expect similar results from the DeLay matter. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 10:24 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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                        And my prediction is that if Fitzgerald hangs Rove the mainstream media well praise him as a stalwart defendere of justice, a true independent and fair minded prosecutor. If he doesn't they will give him the Ken Starr treatment. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom." -- modified at 9:55 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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                          it won't. here's my prediction: A couple of low-level nobodys will get their hands slapped for not making the "Secret, No Foreign" stamp dark enough on the memo that was circulated aboard AF1. At some House or Senate debriefing, Fitzgerald will caution the higher-ups against playing fast and loose with the law when it comes to national security. He'll hand out a couple of indictments, but only on tagential matters related to the investigation, not to the target of the investigation (ie. they'll be for purjury or obstruction), and they'll go to Libby, and maybe Bolton's assistant. Bush will pardon them all - this will be seen as proof of his strong moral character. Nobody will ask if Harriet Miers was in any way involved in the matter, or if she knows anything about it. When they're made public, the details of the investigation will raise more questions about the way BushCo played the WMD issue before their war, but there will be no way to pursue the matter because Congress will close ranks behind the widely unpopular President. Wingnuts will wet themselves in glee and launch multiple SwiftBoat attacks against Fitzgerald for daring to question All The President's Men. The other reporters who were contacted by the 'senior white house officials' (Russert, Matthews, Mitchell, etc) will never come clean about what they know and will continue to pretend they are mere observers. Twenty years from now, this will still be a subject of debate. Expect similar results from the DeLay matter. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 10:24 Tuesday 18th October, 2005

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                          Sorry, Chris, but I can't help hoping that this time, someone will have the guts to take on the whole nest of crooks. Fitzgerald sounds like he might be the one.

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                            Sorry, Chris, but I can't help hoping that this time, someone will have the guts to take on the whole nest of crooks. Fitzgerald sounds like he might be the one.

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                            oh, i hope for the same thing. but i really doubt it will happen. there will be some procedural or institutional obstacle that will stop Fitzgerald from getting too deep into this; they can just cry "National Security!" and put an end to it all (having former Presidential attorneys as Attorney General and on the USSC could be pretty useful here). it's just the way these things always end up. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                              rwestgraham wrote:

                              I would rather just see Cheney keep his ill-gotten Halliburton fortunes.

                              Really? what fortunes? Do you have a source?

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                              Mr. Cheney received more than $30 million in 2000 when he left Halliburton Co., where he had been chief executive officer.[^]

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                                Mr. Cheney received more than $30 million in 2000 when he left Halliburton Co., where he had been chief executive officer.[^]

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                                Exactly my point. He got that when he left Halliburton BEFORE he became vice-president. Before any contracts were awarded. In other words, Mr. Cheney did not profit at all from Halliburton after he left the company in 2000. He sold all his stock and had NO ties.

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