What is the purpose of religion?
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Regardless of what the words origins are, it STILL means the muslims' god, not any other god.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Rob Graham wrote:
The state has no need to be a moral authority. It should derive its legal authority from those it governs by some agreed representative mechanism that allows for change. It should reflect the moral sensibilities of those governed rather than specify what is or is not moral. In the end, the moral authority in any civilization is a consensus of its members, although they may sometimes blame their consensus on a supposed higher power. It is still their consesus and their responsibility. If the state or the church tell you to do something immoral, it is still your responsibility to accept or reject the correctness of their opinion.
Agreed. But that is an ideal which has yet to be achieved.
Rob Graham wrote:
Actually, I don't think separation of church and state has anything at all to do with moral authority. It has to do with prevent any church from becoming the legal authority, rather than forcing the state to be the moral authority.
But it is a two way street. If the state uses the concept of Separation of Church and State to so effectively inhibit the expression of religions moral sesntiment that it is 'compelled' to step in to assume the role of moral authority - what have you achieved? I think it has everything to do with moral authority. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
Reverend Satan wrote:
Agreed. But that is an ideal
Agreed, and I might had an ideal worth fighting for.
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quote on Regardless of what the words origins are, it STILL means the muslims' god, not any other god. quote off You are such a dumb fuck. Jew and Muslim all have the same god just different names.
Josh Gray wrote:
You are such a dumb f***.
Thank you. :) Look, It really dont mean shit when you call people names over the internet. I dont give a shit if some liberal from Europe thinks im a dumbfuck.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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quote on Regardless of what the words origins are, it STILL means the muslims' god, not any other god. quote off You are such a dumb fuck. Jew and Muslim all have the same god just different names.
Josh Gray wrote:
Jew and Muslim all have the same god just different names.
For one thing, the Jews' God is name Yahweh. The muslims' God is name Allah. And, you don't see Jews strapping on bombs and blowing up palestenians in the name of their God do you?
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Josh Gray wrote:
Jew and Muslim all have the same god just different names.
For one thing, the Jews' God is name Yahweh. The muslims' God is name Allah. And, you don't see Jews strapping on bombs and blowing up palestenians in the name of their God do you?
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Josh Gray wrote:
You are such a dumb f***.
Thank you. :) Look, It really dont mean shit when you call people names over the internet. I dont give a shit if some liberal from Europe thinks im a dumbfuck.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Josh Gray wrote:
You dumb f***
Are you trying to offend me? :doh:
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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You continue to stagger me with your ignorance. Exactly, differnt name same god. Thats what i said. No the Jew's have American helicopters to transport their bombs
Josh Gray wrote:
No the Jew's have American helicopters to transport their bombs
And they have every right to. Israel belongs to the Jews, and they should kick the palestenians out.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Regardless of what the words origins are, it STILL means the muslims' god, not any other god.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Why you are so argumentative? BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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Josh Gray wrote:
No the Jew's have American helicopters to transport their bombs
And they have every right to. Israel belongs to the Jews, and they should kick the palestenians out.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Why you are so argumentative? BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven WrightI didnt think I was. It is Josh Gray that being argumentative.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Did i say that?
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Did i say that?
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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I think that they have the right to use force to make the palestenians leave. And, I know, im a dumb fuck.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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I didnt think I was. It is Josh Gray that being argumentative.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
I'm refering to your reply to me. I merely pointed to a link about the possible origins of the word "Allah" for Nish, and you come in ranting how the origin is irrelevent and restate your previous post. I know Muslims refer to God as "Allah". Whether you want to believe Christians and Muslims worship the same power or not is your deal. I wasn't talking about that. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright-- modified at 23:45 Tuesday 6th December, 2005
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I think that they have the right to use force to make the palestenians leave. And, I know, im a dumb fuck.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Chris Austin wrote:
"American Gods"[^] by Neil Gaimon
Excellent story! Have read Neverwhere[^]? Another great story from Gaiman. Just noticed he has a new one out, too. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wrightbrianwelsch wrote:
Have read Neverwhere[^]?
Oh Yeah, it was a fun read. I'd also recommend "Good Omens" by Pratchette. Sorry about no clickety but the automatic clickety dosen't seem to work with Safari and I am feeling damn lazy :) Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton
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I'm refering to your reply to me. I merely pointed to a link about the possible origins of the word "Allah" for Nish, and you come in ranting how the origin is irrelevent and restate your previous post. I know Muslims refer to God as "Allah". Whether you want to believe Christians and Muslims worship the same power or not is your deal. I wasn't talking about that. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright-- modified at 23:45 Tuesday 6th December, 2005
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Josh Gray wrote:
nah you're just f***ing dumb.
Can we not have an agruement without all the name calling? Though i disagree with you, i have not resorted to name calling.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Poor kid, it cant be easy being Stans love child. If you were discussing the British Royal family in the 1500's he would pipe up with something idiotic about Muslims and bombs
Josh Gray wrote:
Poor kid, it cant be easy being Stans love child. If you were discussing the British Royal family in the 1500's he would pipe up with something idiotic about Muslims and bombs
What makes you say that im "Stan's love child"?
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray