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  • M Mike Gaskey

    K(arl) wrote:

    the problem with Israel is

    they're not willing to bend over and assume the position. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

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    If you look to this[^] map of Israel in 1948 and this[^] one in 2005, tell me who was the fucker and who was the fucked one. You cannot defeat undo an injustice by committing another one.


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      If you look to this[^] map of Israel in 1948 and this[^] one in 2005, tell me who was the fucker and who was the fucked one. You cannot defeat undo an injustice by committing another one.


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      Mike Gaskey
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      K(arl) wrote:

      If you look to this[^] map of Israel in 1948 and this[^] one in 2005, tell me who was the f***er and who was the f***ed one.

      show me the map from BC and we can talk.

      K(arl) wrote:

      You cannot defeat undo an injustice by committing another one.

      being a perpetual victim doesn't get you squat either. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

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        Interesting indeed by putting in perspective what Israel is, however I wonder if the author isn't a little bit partial when he says that "The Israeli faith in democracy also explains their refusal to respond to Islamist terrorism in violent ways", he might forget that during the second intifada the ratio of palestinian casualties vs israeli ones is over 2 to 1. Also, in his conclusions, when he says that "only an Israel can keep this earth from dying", I wonder how he can justify it? Is there any data of the financiel help received by Israel especially from US private funds? Anyway, IMHO the problem with Israel is with its behaviour outside its borders: the settlements, the annexation of Palestinian lands, the expulsions.


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        Adnan Siddiqi
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        K(arl) wrote:

        when he says that "only an Israel can keep this earth from dying", I wonder how he can justify it? Is there any data of the financiel help received by Israel especially from US private funds?

        I also dont know why would he make such statment,regadless of ignorings things due to excitment and emotions after visint a religious land for all abrahamic religions,the guy is not wrong and i agree 100% with him,rememebr these wordw by Sharon “Every time we do something, you [Shimon Peres] tell me America will do this and will do that.. I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” (to Israel radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael) it wont take time if you just search one line on google and it would give you lotsa referrence about it,i wonder do americnas know about it?..anyways beide the statment,tell me ,in which industry jews are NOT in US or out of US,theya re everywhere + US alwaye vetoed[^] every resolution which was against israel.jews are in power in govt,engineering..infact where not... and i dont hesitate to admit that they deserve such power due to their hardwork,considering importance of education and R&D and sticking on their religious goal since beginning and working on it,regardless of its disliked by muslims or others. i bet if muslims or chiristians would have followed the strategy of of jews,they would have in better condition than current.Typical financial aid is nt necessary at all,Influence is enough. MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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        • M Mike Gaskey

          K(arl) wrote:

          If you look to this[^] map of Israel in 1948 and this[^] one in 2005, tell me who was the f***er and who was the f***ed one.

          show me the map from BC and we can talk.

          K(arl) wrote:

          You cannot defeat undo an injustice by committing another one.

          being a perpetual victim doesn't get you squat either. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

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          Ed Gadziemski
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          Mike Gaskey wrote:

          show me the map from BC and we can talk

          Read some history before ya spout off. Except for brief periods amounting to about 300 of the last 5,000 years, there was no Jewish-controlled nation. History of Palestine[^]


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          • M Mike Gaskey

            K(arl) wrote:

            If you look to this[^] map of Israel in 1948 and this[^] one in 2005, tell me who was the f***er and who was the f***ed one.

            show me the map from BC and we can talk.

            K(arl) wrote:

            You cannot defeat undo an injustice by committing another one.

            being a perpetual victim doesn't get you squat either. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

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            KaRl
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            show me the map from BC and we can talk

            this one[^], this one[^], this one[^]? BTW, show me a map of your country before BC.

            being a perpetual victim doesn't get you squat either.

            The Palestinians have nothing to do with that. Why should they pay for the suffering of the jewish people?


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            • A Adnan Siddiqi

              K(arl) wrote:

              when he says that "only an Israel can keep this earth from dying", I wonder how he can justify it? Is there any data of the financiel help received by Israel especially from US private funds?

              I also dont know why would he make such statment,regadless of ignorings things due to excitment and emotions after visint a religious land for all abrahamic religions,the guy is not wrong and i agree 100% with him,rememebr these wordw by Sharon “Every time we do something, you [Shimon Peres] tell me America will do this and will do that.. I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” (to Israel radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael) it wont take time if you just search one line on google and it would give you lotsa referrence about it,i wonder do americnas know about it?..anyways beide the statment,tell me ,in which industry jews are NOT in US or out of US,theya re everywhere + US alwaye vetoed[^] every resolution which was against israel.jews are in power in govt,engineering..infact where not... and i dont hesitate to admit that they deserve such power due to their hardwork,considering importance of education and R&D and sticking on their religious goal since beginning and working on it,regardless of its disliked by muslims or others. i bet if muslims or chiristians would have followed the strategy of of jews,they would have in better condition than current.Typical financial aid is nt necessary at all,Influence is enough. MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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              KaRl
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              For once, don't forget jews are people of the book too. You fall into antisemitism, making the same mistake than the anti-muslim crowd. The Us has not vetoed every resolution: UN 242 is an example.


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              • E Ed Gadziemski

                Mike Gaskey wrote:

                show me the map from BC and we can talk

                Read some history before ya spout off. Except for brief periods amounting to about 300 of the last 5,000 years, there was no Jewish-controlled nation. History of Palestine[^]


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                Mike Gaskey
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                Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                Read some history before ya spout off

                kiss off sport, read the history you posted. there's been a constant struggle in those lands and no one other than those able to hold it have a right to it. if you'd pay attention to what's posted here you'd find that Karl constantly harps on the poor fucking Palestinians with no regard for the hardships the Jews have had to suffer through. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

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                • K KaRl

                  For once, don't forget jews are people of the book too. You fall into antisemitism, making the same mistake than the anti-muslim crowd. The Us has not vetoed every resolution: UN 242 is an example.


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                  Adnan Siddiqi
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                  K(arl) wrote:

                  For once, don't forget jews are people of the book too.

                  like any other muslim,i know it since beginning,whats your point?

                  K(arl) wrote:

                  You fall into antisemitism, making the same mistake than the anti-muslim crowd.

                  which mistake,i didn`t get you?could u elaborate thanks?

                  K(arl) wrote:

                  The Us has not vetoed every resolution: UN 242 is an example.

                  Funny enough,did you want me to make a detailed statment that USA vetoed all resolutuin which was against Israel and in favor of Palestine people? A/C to this[^]' U.N. Security Council Resolution 242 Calls for: Recognition of Israel's right to exist An end to the state of war maintained by the Arab world against Israel Secure and recognized boundaries for Israel 242 DOES NOT REQUIRE ISRAEL TO RETURN TO THE NON-SECURE BORDERS OF PRE-1967. so how does it go against Sharon`s statment that Jews Rule over USA?offcourse USA would favor it for sake of Existance of israel MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                  • L legalAlien

                    A Muslim In A Jewish Land[^]

                    turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice

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                    peterchen
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                    Seemed interestng - but reading the article, I had the impression of a Jew-Groupie confirming his prejudices.


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                    • A Adnan Siddiqi

                      K(arl) wrote:

                      For once, don't forget jews are people of the book too.

                      like any other muslim,i know it since beginning,whats your point?

                      K(arl) wrote:

                      You fall into antisemitism, making the same mistake than the anti-muslim crowd.

                      which mistake,i didn`t get you?could u elaborate thanks?

                      K(arl) wrote:

                      The Us has not vetoed every resolution: UN 242 is an example.

                      Funny enough,did you want me to make a detailed statment that USA vetoed all resolutuin which was against Israel and in favor of Palestine people? A/C to this[^]' U.N. Security Council Resolution 242 Calls for: Recognition of Israel's right to exist An end to the state of war maintained by the Arab world against Israel Secure and recognized boundaries for Israel 242 DOES NOT REQUIRE ISRAEL TO RETURN TO THE NON-SECURE BORDERS OF PRE-1967. so how does it go against Sharon`s statment that Jews Rule over USA?offcourse USA would favor it for sake of Existance of israel MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                      KaRl
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                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      i know it since beginning,whats your point?

                      Antisemitism is intolerable on a religious point of view.

                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      which mistake,i didn`t get you?could u elaborate thanks?

                      By generalizing: You consider people over their religious belief, not as individuals. IMO, by saying jews instead of "some jews", you make the same mistake than people saying "muslims" instead of "some muslims" when talking about islamists. Are all Jews fanatic settlers? Far from that.

                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      A/C to this[^]'

                      This website takes side in the semantic dispute[^] on UN 242. For UN resolutions against Israel, see also UN303 and UN425.

                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      Sharon`s statment

                      The reality of this statement is disputed[^]. I am not sure that the Pro-Hamas Islamic Association for Palestine is reliable when it makes such claims.


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