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  • A Adnan Siddiqi

    care to refuse? anyone? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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    Pardon? Refuse What? If a group of morons like thise threatened the life of my wife, daughter, sister, or mother you'd be damn sure that I would be demanding that my goverment take immediate action. If they didn't then you can be damn sure that I'd find some like minded friends to make sure we could protect our family and friends. BTW... Are you advocating violence against women who refuse the demands of these weak-minded men? Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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      ADNANANA SIDDDIKY REPORT CARD Engrish 100: F Anatomy 101: F USA bashing 101: B- Advanced Whining 300: A Internet Retard 101: A+++ - F

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      Adnan Siddiqi
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      :laugh: i don`t need to bash US or Americans,they bash themselves,i just laugh at them :laugh: MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        and to be honest, it was a scary sight!

        Frankly this is a problem you have to deal with. It kind of reminds me of a local talk show host who goes around saying how scared he is when he passes a mosque after Friday prayer and sees all those Muslim looking people hanging around. Its a problem he has to deal with.

        Quran IslamWeb (IE only) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam

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        Adnan Siddiqi
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        :laugh: `gree wid yew bro!! its like seeing lots of hindus(men/women) doing ashnan in ganga/jamna ..very weird for me..but its good for them *shrug* MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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          Pardon? Refuse What? If a group of morons like thise threatened the life of my wife, daughter, sister, or mother you'd be damn sure that I would be demanding that my goverment take immediate action. If they didn't then you can be damn sure that I'd find some like minded friends to make sure we could protect our family and friends. BTW... Are you advocating violence against women who refuse the demands of these weak-minded men? Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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          Chris Austin wrote:

          If a group of morons like thise threatened the life of my wife, daughter, sister, or mother you'd be damn sure that I would be demanding that my goverment take immediate action. If they didn't then you can be damn sure that I'd find some like minded friends to make sure we could protect our family and friends

          where do you live?

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          BTW... Are you advocating violence against women who refuse the demands of these weak-minded men?

          NO, i am advocating that Hijab(Veil) is not a bad thing anyway,second its not forced on govt level ,i am citizen of Pakistan and my sister and mom dont wear scarf but my fiance does cos she likes it,none of her other sister wear,so see,its a free will like eiter wear Jeans or something else, and last but nto least, Veil is not Islamic innovation,before islamic it was mentioned in Hindu religion which is one of oldest one and in chiristianity too and when chirsitians who i thnk respect mARY and NUN then why cant we give respect to all Muslim women who have same status as NUM(NO Discriminition) taking a fanatic group as example and bashing a RELIGION is pretty pathetic and lame for me and i consider it childish ti participate with such so called *MATURE* in this way i have legitimate reason to curse Christian Missionaries which is even official who force ppl to convert Chiristianity by giving them Money andother stuff.. MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

            A banned Islamist militant group blamed for a series of bombings in Bangladesh has threatened to kill women, including non-Muslims, if they do not wear the veil, a statement said

            Wearing a headscarf is a personal thing that has no impact on society. A person who acts against a supposed command of God should anger God alone and not other human beings. Fellow human beings (i.e. society) can only interfere where the individual's actions harm others. So what right does another human being have to act as God's proxy and mete out punishment ? That, in the context of the same religious beliefs, is the highest form of blasphemy.

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            You speak wisely. :) -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              All Iranians aren't required to carry hijabs, depending on where they live. There are more and less secular areas in Iran. -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip. -- modified at 9:06 Sunday 11th December, 2005

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              On the other hand being gay there is punishable by death. :(( Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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              • A Adnan Siddiqi

                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                That is nice I am glad they could do as they wanted to. If they were in Bangladesh, they'd have been worried now I guess.

                you`re wrong here again Nishant! wearing scarf,jeans is personal things,Islam just asks women to cover herself properly and don`t expose the body..i think its not unusual and against Human nature at all. school girls age covers from 4-15 years,if a girl of 8th or 10th grade wears scarf,its not alien anyways..living in a society like US where crime rate of crime is high,rate of raping is high, read this[^] FBI report , this sexualy assault stats Report [^] and this[^] research report for high abuse against women.. its not bad if parents of those girls asks them to wear scarf..but again ..its not forced to them...yes i dont deny NOT all force them,few parents really force them ..but to be honest Nishant,you have met a single muslim family,i have met many,in virual world and real life,my own relatives live in US ,Canda and Uk..and most of girls and women wear scarf with their own will cos they feel more secure..for sake of your info,one of the Hindu friend of my friend`s wife wears scarf like our muslims women and she feels much better in it. Vieling is not bad Nish, and its not a Post islamic practise,its has been promoted in all major religions,from bible to hinduism and all these religions are older than Islam itself,Chiristians sketch picture of Mary who has covered herself like a Islamic dress,nuns follow Marry..but not rest,a hollw and lame reason given by chiristians that they Opt it cos they wana be religious..they themselves admit that Chirtianity lies among churches and in hearts of nuns and priests..cos of this..chiristianity is not charmful for them.. guess the incest rate in US itself..why the western society taking last breath,they had gone to extreem of lust,have had sex with animals..no moral value

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                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                Chiristians sketch picture of Mary who has covered herself like a Islamic dress,nuns follow Marry..

                The western world was not defined by christians, but by Pagan greeks, who we can also thank for our rationalism and democracy. Spartan girls had an upbringing unparalleled anywhere else in Greece. For starters, they were fed the same rations as boys and allowed to drink wine. The state taught them how to sing and dance, wrestle, throw the javelin and discus. And they were encouraged to be every bit as competitive as the boys. Girls and boys would exercise naked, but there was nothing immodest about it. Nudity was the norm because it was thought to banish prudery and encourage fitness. It paid off. Physically, all young Spartans were outstanding. In the comedy Lysistrata by the Athenian playwright Aristophanes, a group of Athenian women crowd round a Spartan woman called Lampito. 'What a gorgeous creature,' they say. 'What healthy skin, what firmness of physique.' And one of them adds, 'I've never seen a pair of breasts like that.' To which Lampito proudly responds, 'I go to the gym. I make my buttocks hard.' Spartan 'thigh-flashers' The simple visibility of Spartan women made them objects of fear and fascination to non-Spartan men. When you see – in the Sparta museum today – the lead votive offerings depicting dancers, you can understand why Spartan women were subject to such lurid speculation among Athenian men. One of the most important virtues for Athenian women was soprhosyne – 'wise restraint'. However, in these uninhibited dancers, even after thousands of years, you can sense the energy and almost smell the sweat. Spartan dances were famous for their vitality. In one particularly athletic version, women had to jump up and drum their buttocks with their heels as many times as possible. It was incredibly difficult, but most importantly for the ancients, it revealed a large amount of naked thigh. This is probably where Spartan girls earned their nickname: 'thigh-flashers.' As part of their state education, the thigh-flashers would go down to the banks of the Eurotas river for what one poet described as the 'nichta di ambrosias' – the ambrosial nights. The poet goes on to evoke scenes of ritual ecstatic dances and choral contests – the girls singing to each other of limb-loosening desire, tossing their long hair, being ridden like horses and exhausted by love. It's no surprise that Sparta was one of the few

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                • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                  On the other hand being gay there is punishable by death. :(( Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                  Even the slightest suspicion is enough to get beaten to death. :( -- Pictures[^] from my Japan trip.

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                  • A Adnan Siddiqi

                    Chris Austin wrote:

                    If a group of morons like thise threatened the life of my wife, daughter, sister, or mother you'd be damn sure that I would be demanding that my goverment take immediate action. If they didn't then you can be damn sure that I'd find some like minded friends to make sure we could protect our family and friends

                    where do you live?

                    Chris Austin wrote:

                    BTW... Are you advocating violence against women who refuse the demands of these weak-minded men?

                    NO, i am advocating that Hijab(Veil) is not a bad thing anyway,second its not forced on govt level ,i am citizen of Pakistan and my sister and mom dont wear scarf but my fiance does cos she likes it,none of her other sister wear,so see,its a free will like eiter wear Jeans or something else, and last but nto least, Veil is not Islamic innovation,before islamic it was mentioned in Hindu religion which is one of oldest one and in chiristianity too and when chirsitians who i thnk respect mARY and NUN then why cant we give respect to all Muslim women who have same status as NUM(NO Discriminition) taking a fanatic group as example and bashing a RELIGION is pretty pathetic and lame for me and i consider it childish ti participate with such so called *MATURE* in this way i have legitimate reason to curse Christian Missionaries which is even official who force ppl to convert Chiristianity by giving them Money andother stuff.. MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    where do you live?

                    Does it matter where I live? Come on, we are not living in the stone ages. A lot of us have access to information and the media. We can make a lot of noise about someone threating to kill a loved one. Also, if we did noting to protect a loved ones and their choices we are cowards of the worse kind.

                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    NO, i am advocating that Hijab(Veil) is not a bad thing anyway

                    I'm sure it isn't for people whom choose to wear it. What I was specificaly addresing is a band of soft minded idiots who want to violently force it's use onto people.

                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    Veil is not Islamic innovation,before islamic it was mentioned in Hindu religion which is one of oldest one and in chiristianity too and when chirsitians who i thnk respect mARY and NUN then why cant we give respect to all Muslim women who have same status as NUM(NO Discriminition)

                    None of that is germaine to my question. No where did I even mention religion. The question is about the "rightness" of forcing someone to act as if they belive the same as a band weak minded thugs.

                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    taking a fanatic group as example and bashing a RELIGION is pretty pathetic and lame for me and i consider it childish ti participate with such so called *MATURE*

                    Then we agree. I never bashed a single religion on this topic. My point is that a goverment's primary responsibility is to protect it's citizens. If the goverment in question fails to take action against these "people" then it has utterly failed.

                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    issionaries which is even official who force ppl to convert Chiristianity by giving them Money andother stuff..

                    Again, none of this is important to the discussion. What was being discussed was a group of men who's lives are so worthless that they feel threatened by someone who simply does not belive as they do. I understand your point; but I feel it is a discussion for another day :) Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      where do you live?

                      Does it matter where I live? Come on, we are not living in the stone ages. A lot of us have access to information and the media. We can make a lot of noise about someone threating to kill a loved one. Also, if we did noting to protect a loved ones and their choices we are cowards of the worse kind.

                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      NO, i am advocating that Hijab(Veil) is not a bad thing anyway

                      I'm sure it isn't for people whom choose to wear it. What I was specificaly addresing is a band of soft minded idiots who want to violently force it's use onto people.

                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      Veil is not Islamic innovation,before islamic it was mentioned in Hindu religion which is one of oldest one and in chiristianity too and when chirsitians who i thnk respect mARY and NUN then why cant we give respect to all Muslim women who have same status as NUM(NO Discriminition)

                      None of that is germaine to my question. No where did I even mention religion. The question is about the "rightness" of forcing someone to act as if they belive the same as a band weak minded thugs.

                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      taking a fanatic group as example and bashing a RELIGION is pretty pathetic and lame for me and i consider it childish ti participate with such so called *MATURE*

                      Then we agree. I never bashed a single religion on this topic. My point is that a goverment's primary responsibility is to protect it's citizens. If the goverment in question fails to take action against these "people" then it has utterly failed.

                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      issionaries which is even official who force ppl to convert Chiristianity by giving them Money andother stuff..

                      Again, none of this is important to the discussion. What was being discussed was a group of men who's lives are so worthless that they feel threatened by someone who simply does not belive as they do. I understand your point; but I feel it is a discussion for another day :) Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                      Chris Austin wrote:

                      Does it matter where I live? Come on, we are not living in the stone ages. A lot of us have access to information and the media. We can make a lot of noise about someone threating to kill a loved one. Also, if we did noting to protect a loved ones and their choices we are cowards of the worse kind.

                      sigh..you made a statment,i didnt want to make a generalise statment in response or considerin you an ameircan is also not good!neither i know ur religion,but uknow everything bout me atleast my religion ..you being anonymous when arguing is not ok for me.if u wana hide then fine! *shrug* loveones dont need protection in Islamist country only or among muslims..several non-muslims face violence by their own people..i wonder how many emerge voices for them...pretending to be *supporter* of muslims..this don`t work anymore..as you said ,we dont live in stone ages. -you splitted my replies in3-4 chunks..all are same basically,that if a Group or a sect or a country doin false in name of a religion or law or anything..it dont mean that that law /religion is vulnerable..thats all my point..picking up a stone and arguing that this is black then others re black too..its like time wasting for me B`desh govt must be taking steps to stop them..as i said violence are everywhere.. i wonder how many times would u orother non muslims have condemn american violence on iraqi prisoners at guantanamo bay..if non-muslim world is really symapatic towards muslims,they shud made voice against it..since its being dne by a Govt i referred missionaries cos thats also a Force convertion in my sight..and unlike the mentioned islamic group,Missionaries are official in Churches. as I said i dont wana be pathetic and ignorant to pick up a single incident and bash whole community,ppl liek kgaddy ,stan do tht though they don`t know whats their own country and religion has left shit behind for followers. extreemists are evrwyehre,in every religion and country,for instance read about this[^] guy who asks Hindu women in India to give birth atleast 3 kids b`coz muslim poulation is getitn increased 10% more than Hindu population,if i become an idiot,i would made a post and would start bashing hindu readers of CP,why should I while i know there is no su

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                        And I'm waiting for you to extrapolate this to say that Muslim women throughout the world don't wear the headscarf out of conviction rather because they were forced and threatened.

                        Quran IslamWeb (IE only) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam

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                        It's pretty bloody obvious that in any country where women are forced to wear it, no-one can actually say why they do. That's the point of a free society, in a country like the UK, USA or Australia, if we see a woman wearing it, we're more likely to assume they choose to, than to assume someone is forcing them ( although I guess that is still very possible ). Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                        • A Adnan Siddiqi

                          A.A why do you waste time to respond a person who dont even know a bit about his own religion?..replying to him is wastage of time,..like convincing a mentally retard person that earth is NOT flat:laugh: MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                          Adnan - so long as you continue to ignore the words of anyone you don't agree with, and instead try to get people who agree with you to snicker at the ignorance of those who dare have an alternative point of view, you will always be ignorant, uneducated, and have an emotional age of 8. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                            Adnan - so long as you continue to ignore the words of anyone you don't agree with, and instead try to get people who agree with you to snicker at the ignorance of those who dare have an alternative point of view, you will always be ignorant, uneducated, and have an emotional age of 8. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                            i am not ignoring?where did I and to who?why are you so hyper at me?cos you coudn`t respond me and got pissed? i dont say one dont disagree all i say that don`t generalise on basis of a group or a person..what`s wrong in it? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                              It's pretty bloody obvious that in any country where women are forced to wear it, no-one can actually say why they do. That's the point of a free society, in a country like the UK, USA or Australia, if we see a woman wearing it, we're more likely to assume they choose to, than to assume someone is forcing them ( although I guess that is still very possible ). Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              That's the point of a free society, in a country like the UK, USA or Australia,

                              means rest of the world are not FREE SOCIETY(including major part of Europe)?

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                              ( although I guess that is still very possible ).

                              this is your old wickedness,let me be wicked tooo..wheneva i see a christian in my country..i believe some missionary converted them by force or their ancestors converted before partitioon as they were bribed lotsa stuff for living MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan -- modified at 17:57 Sunday 11th December, 2005

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                              • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                i am not ignoring?where did I and to who?why are you so hyper at me?cos you coudn`t respond me and got pissed? i dont say one dont disagree all i say that don`t generalise on basis of a group or a person..what`s wrong in it? MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                where did I and to who?

                                You said : why do you waste time to respond a person who dont even know a bit about his own religion?..replying to him is wastage of time,..like convincing a mentally retard person that earth is NOT flat Now, from what I can tell, you quoted the Old Testament to the original poster and did not like his response. He is Jewish ? Either way, I know from experience that it's unlikely that he was indeed 'not knowing about his religion', and either way, you're being rude. If you wanted to say something to A.A. you should have emailed him, instead of publically insulting someone for having a different opinion to you.

                                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                cos you coudn`t respond me and got pissed?

                                Yes, I am sure that in the same way that I 'couldn't respond to you', this guy probably couldn't either. In other words, I'm sure he responded intelligently, and you ignored what he said to pursue your own agenda.

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                                i dont say one dont disagree all i say that don`t generalise on basis of a group or a person..what`s wrong in it?

                                You didn't say that at all, if you had, I would have agreed. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  That's the point of a free society, in a country like the UK, USA or Australia,

                                  means rest of the world are not FREE SOCIETY(including major part of Europe)?

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  ( although I guess that is still very possible ).

                                  this is your old wickedness,let me be wicked tooo..wheneva i see a christian in my country..i believe some missionary converted them by force or their ancestors converted before partitioon as they were bribed lotsa stuff for living MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan -- modified at 17:57 Sunday 11th December, 2005

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                                  Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                  means rest of the world are not FREE SOCIETY(including major part of Europe)?

                                  You are a moron. Look up the word 'like' in any dictionary. You'll find it means I gave some examples off the top of my head, but not an exaustive list.

                                  Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                  this is your old wickedness

                                  How ? Given that a lot of immigrants form very insular groups within our society, it's very possible that they are being put under pressure within that group that they would not have the wherewithall to confront. I didn't say that was likely, or that I believed it, only that it's possible. My core point was and is, when society does not force people to follow a religion, they are free to follow it from the heart, instead of by obligation, under law instead of grace. That's really what you guys miss most of all in your rejection of Jesus Christ and all He stood for.

                                  Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                  wheneva i see a christian in my country..i believe some missionary converted them by force or their ancestors converted before partitioon as they were bribed lotsa stuff for living

                                  As usual, you're incapable of comprehending what anyone says to you, and go off on your own little tangent. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                                    Chris Austin wrote:

                                    Does it matter where I live? Come on, we are not living in the stone ages. A lot of us have access to information and the media. We can make a lot of noise about someone threating to kill a loved one. Also, if we did noting to protect a loved ones and their choices we are cowards of the worse kind.

                                    sigh..you made a statment,i didnt want to make a generalise statment in response or considerin you an ameircan is also not good!neither i know ur religion,but uknow everything bout me atleast my religion ..you being anonymous when arguing is not ok for me.if u wana hide then fine! *shrug* loveones dont need protection in Islamist country only or among muslims..several non-muslims face violence by their own people..i wonder how many emerge voices for them...pretending to be *supporter* of muslims..this don`t work anymore..as you said ,we dont live in stone ages. -you splitted my replies in3-4 chunks..all are same basically,that if a Group or a sect or a country doin false in name of a religion or law or anything..it dont mean that that law /religion is vulnerable..thats all my point..picking up a stone and arguing that this is black then others re black too..its like time wasting for me B`desh govt must be taking steps to stop them..as i said violence are everywhere.. i wonder how many times would u orother non muslims have condemn american violence on iraqi prisoners at guantanamo bay..if non-muslim world is really symapatic towards muslims,they shud made voice against it..since its being dne by a Govt i referred missionaries cos thats also a Force convertion in my sight..and unlike the mentioned islamic group,Missionaries are official in Churches. as I said i dont wana be pathetic and ignorant to pick up a single incident and bash whole community,ppl liek kgaddy ,stan do tht though they don`t know whats their own country and religion has left shit behind for followers. extreemists are evrwyehre,in every religion and country,for instance read about this[^] guy who asks Hindu women in India to give birth atleast 3 kids b`coz muslim poulation is getitn increased 10% more than Hindu population,if i become an idiot,i would made a post and would start bashing hindu readers of CP,why should I while i know there is no su

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                                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                    know ur religion,but uknow everything bout me atleast my religion ..you being anonymous when arguing is not ok for me.if u wana hide then fine! *shrug*

                                    Honestly, why is this about religion? My statement was about protection of citizens. If you re-read my post you will see that I did not consider the religion but rather the threat of violence. I have nothing to hide, nor am I being anomyous as I post by my real name and my country and state can be found eaisly on my profile. I just don't think the discussion of an abstract principle requires my country or yours.

                                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                    so,for sake of me..don`t refer me some particular group to bash a community..whether its jews too..i aint intrested to participate such lame discussions

                                    I don't think I did. I was speaking specificly about these people and their threats. I understand that you have your view and perhaps your own axe to grind. We all do. Honestly, from your previous reply it seems as if we feel the same about unjustified violence against others. It is just apparent that you are being defensive about a precived slight against your religion or culture; by no means was that my intention. Peace my friend. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                                      where did I and to who?

                                      You said : why do you waste time to respond a person who dont even know a bit about his own religion?..replying to him is wastage of time,..like convincing a mentally retard person that earth is NOT flat Now, from what I can tell, you quoted the Old Testament to the original poster and did not like his response. He is Jewish ? Either way, I know from experience that it's unlikely that he was indeed 'not knowing about his religion', and either way, you're being rude. If you wanted to say something to A.A. you should have emailed him, instead of publically insulting someone for having a different opinion to you.

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                                      cos you coudn`t respond me and got pissed?

                                      Yes, I am sure that in the same way that I 'couldn't respond to you', this guy probably couldn't either. In other words, I'm sure he responded intelligently, and you ignored what he said to pursue your own agenda.

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                                      i dont say one dont disagree all i say that don`t generalise on basis of a group or a person..what`s wrong in it?

                                      You didn't say that at all, if you had, I would have agreed. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                                      and I stil repeat,why do I or someone waste time over someone who has no idea of his own religion,who has no idea that how his religion has been used in promotion of violence,applying religion with force..i consider it stupidity.. pointing out fingures on other on BASIS of act of one group/invidual and claiming that whole religion preaches that ,would be church ideology,,not mine.

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                                      Now, from what I can tell, you quoted the Old Testament to the original poster and did not like his response. He is Jewish ? Either way, I know from experience that it's unlikely that he was indeed 'not knowing about his religion', and either way, you're being rude.

                                      i am not being rude..the guys like kgaddy was never encouraged by others readers(including non-muslims) as well..i have gone thru his previous threads..everytime he was being potty mouth towards Islam..being ignorant towards his own country US..had no idea bout his country nad pretend to be champion of other countries culture and politics and other religions... did I dislike something by him?Yes..and thats his ignorance and stupidity..bashing a religion due to individual is utter stupidity for me and i woudnt like to respond such person at alk..like bashin head against wall. as far as referring OT/NT verse..he coudn`t comeup..what all he replied as "OMG ..wWTF" ..neither i disliked nor liked his lame response..i simply ignored cos he had nothing to say in return..if he was jewish..he didnt know bout his book..if he was even a chirstian ..then my child..you shoudn`t forget you and me have already discussed about NT in our pvt emails..and yet you are singing praises about it..so lame.. for me..picking a black stone and claiming all stones of that categories are black is nonsense...its not bout Islam..someone here..infact stan himself posted a link about chiristianity extreemism..i dndt response at all cos i know that some group is violating the teachings of bible..doesn`t mean bible preaching it..i`m sorry i am not like kgaddy whos yur hero.

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                                      you're being rude. If you wanted to say something to A.A. you should have emailed him, instead of publically insulting someone for having a different opinion to you.

                                      Why should I?have you forgot that when i was in discussin with thealJ,you butt in and advised him PUBLICILY and to others sevral times NOT to respond him then how can you ask me NOT to advise A

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                                        and I stil repeat,why do I or someone waste time over someone who has no idea of his own religion,who has no idea that how his religion has been used in promotion of violence,applying religion with force..i consider it stupidity.. pointing out fingures on other on BASIS of act of one group/invidual and claiming that whole religion preaches that ,would be church ideology,,not mine.

                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        Now, from what I can tell, you quoted the Old Testament to the original poster and did not like his response. He is Jewish ? Either way, I know from experience that it's unlikely that he was indeed 'not knowing about his religion', and either way, you're being rude.

                                        i am not being rude..the guys like kgaddy was never encouraged by others readers(including non-muslims) as well..i have gone thru his previous threads..everytime he was being potty mouth towards Islam..being ignorant towards his own country US..had no idea bout his country nad pretend to be champion of other countries culture and politics and other religions... did I dislike something by him?Yes..and thats his ignorance and stupidity..bashing a religion due to individual is utter stupidity for me and i woudnt like to respond such person at alk..like bashin head against wall. as far as referring OT/NT verse..he coudn`t comeup..what all he replied as "OMG ..wWTF" ..neither i disliked nor liked his lame response..i simply ignored cos he had nothing to say in return..if he was jewish..he didnt know bout his book..if he was even a chirstian ..then my child..you shoudn`t forget you and me have already discussed about NT in our pvt emails..and yet you are singing praises about it..so lame.. for me..picking a black stone and claiming all stones of that categories are black is nonsense...its not bout Islam..someone here..infact stan himself posted a link about chiristianity extreemism..i dndt response at all cos i know that some group is violating the teachings of bible..doesn`t mean bible preaching it..i`m sorry i am not like kgaddy whos yur hero.

                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        you're being rude. If you wanted to say something to A.A. you should have emailed him, instead of publically insulting someone for having a different opinion to you.

                                        Why should I?have you forgot that when i was in discussin with thealJ,you butt in and advised him PUBLICILY and to others sevral times NOT to respond him then how can you ask me NOT to advise A

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                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        why do I or someone waste time over someone who has no idea of his own religion

                                        Well, I know from experience that you make this claim of others when it has no basis. I also wonder, why would someone not knowing about their religion ( assuming it was true, and not just your usual waffle ) make a person worthless in your eyes ?

                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        if he was jewish

                                        Well, he must be, for your claim to hold any water. Christians do not live by the Old Testament law.

                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        you shoudn`t forget you and me have already discussed about NT in our pvt emails..

                                        No, we never discussed anything. A discussion would entail you answering my questions.

                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        and yet you are singing praises about it..so lame..

                                        I have no idea what you mean by this, except that it's the usual self congratulation I expect from you. To be honest, you sound like someone who knows they are wrong, and are trying to convince themselves more than others that they are right.

                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        i`m sorry i am not like kgaddy whos yur hero.

                                        You're a moron. I don't know if kdaddy is like you, I hope for his sake that he is not.

                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        you butt in and advised him PUBLICILY and to others sevral times NOT to respond him

                                        No, he responded to you first and I followed up that I'd had the same experience as he was, that you were as impossible to talk to with me as you were with him. I did not advise him not to talk to you, I simply agreed with the decision he had made.

                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        u r being stupid since beginning..

                                        Using letters as words makes you look dumb.

                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        since i have already experience you and your *intelligence*

                                        I'm not sure that you have - you struck me as either illiterate, or able to completely forget anything you read that does not suit you.

                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        responding as "OMG WTF" in return is as sign of intelligence..?

                                        Perhaps not. But based on my own experience of you, I would certainly a

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                                          Actually Kdaddy is a male slut..he follows following verses of Duet[^] and checks virginity of her daugther by using Tokens :laugh: 13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, 14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: 15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: 16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; 17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. 18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; :laugh: MyBlogs http://weblogs.com.pk/kadnan

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                                          For what it's worth, the token of a womans virginity is the blood on the sheet she uses on her wedding night. It's kind of bizarre to keep such a thing, but there it is. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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