Isn't it amazing...
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jasontg wrote:
there is suddenly a terrorist scare?
where'd you pull that from? Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Someone, I think it was Thom Hartmann, was pointing out coincidences between the timing of terroist threats announced by the White House and bad publicity. Like the New York subway threat happened right after Karl Rove was asked to testify. (IIRC) I thought it was pushing it, and he even admitted that there was absolutely no evidence to prove it, but that the timing smelled funny. :) Here's an ariticle that talks more about it:http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2005/10/07/publiceye/entry924555.shtml[^] This was from a while back (May '04) but talks about the same thing http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60088-2004May27.html[^] -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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Reverend Satan wrote:
How could it possibly be interpreted as not being successful?
...for the administration. Well to get a large portion of the population to vote, there was a national consensus that armed resistence is a legitimate right. Those that did participate, did so by saying they support the insurgents and will also work on the politcal front to remove the occupation forces.
Quran IslamWeb (IE only) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
Yeah, all those happy people pointing their purple fingers skyward in victory were voting for a continuation of the violence. But, hey, they are just your fellow Muslims finaly given a little freedom, so why should you care? You've got yours, after all. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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Reverend Satan wrote:
every time the Bush administration has some success. The big news today should be the successful elections in Iraq.
In what way do you think it was successful for the administration? Not holding my breath in the hope that this thread won't degenerate the way threads here usually do...
Quran IslamWeb (IE only) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
A.A. wrote:
In what way do you think it was successful for the administration?
The election in Iraq is one more step towards Iraqi self governance. Frankly we're watching something historic, if it continues. 1) the toppling of a dictator, 2) creation of a democratic form of government, 3) hand over of the country, giving it back to the citizens. I doubt there is any historic parallel. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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The same place the left pulls all of its "news" - out of their liberal asses. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
As opposed to where the right pulls all of its "news" - out of Fox's fair and balanced asses.
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Someone, I think it was Thom Hartmann, was pointing out coincidences between the timing of terroist threats announced by the White House and bad publicity. Like the New York subway threat happened right after Karl Rove was asked to testify. (IIRC) I thought it was pushing it, and he even admitted that there was absolutely no evidence to prove it, but that the timing smelled funny. :) Here's an ariticle that talks more about it:http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2005/10/07/publiceye/entry924555.shtml[^] This was from a while back (May '04) but talks about the same thing http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60088-2004May27.html[^] -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
jasontg wrote:
Like the New York subway threat
not to tromp all over the fiction here but the New York alert was a New York decision, period. The mayor decided to act on intelligience in a big way but you can't lay that decison at the feet of the Bush administration. Yes the mayor is republican, but in name only. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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...how the "non-biased" press starts loading the headlines with all the negative news they can find every time the Bush administration has some success. The big news today should be the successful elections in Iraq. But no, we get some e-mail from that socialist whore bitch Fienstien, and a report on military spending. Fucking treasonous assholes. :sigh: "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
I keep telling you, the major press, like the networks, is a reflection of society's desires. They have to be in order to keep the ratings/page views/subscriptions up. There was plenty of republican bias showing over the last few years when public sentiment leaned that way. Now, not so much. So, a victory for democracy abroad being not nearly the Springer show drama of political bitch-slapping at home, guess which one gets more ink.
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jasontg wrote:
Like the New York subway threat
not to tromp all over the fiction here but the New York alert was a New York decision, period. The mayor decided to act on intelligience in a big way but you can't lay that decison at the feet of the Bush administration. Yes the mayor is republican, but in name only. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
So are you saying that the mayor made up the terrorist threat or that he took a warning from the White House that told him when, where, and how too far? -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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So are you saying that the mayor made up the terrorist threat or that he took a warning from the White House that told him when, where, and how too far? -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
jasontg wrote:
too far
my understanding is that there are many intelligience reports that are passed along to governors, mayors, etc. it is up to them to decide just how strenuously to react. Mayor Bloomberg reacted strongly. Maybe appropriately, who really knows? His reaction may in fact have stopped something, which would not / could not be reported by CBS or Washington Post. All they can do is speculate and they always speculate in the most negative way possible. The point is, such reactions are not scripted by the administration. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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jasontg wrote:
too far
my understanding is that there are many intelligience reports that are passed along to governors, mayors, etc. it is up to them to decide just how strenuously to react. Mayor Bloomberg reacted strongly. Maybe appropriately, who really knows? His reaction may in fact have stopped something, which would not / could not be reported by CBS or Washington Post. All they can do is speculate and they always speculate in the most negative way possible. The point is, such reactions are not scripted by the administration. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Mike Gaskey wrote:
The point is, such reactions are not scripted by the administration.
True, but I would rather be the guy who did too much and pissed off a lot of New Yorkers rather than the guy who did too little and let a lot of New Yorkers die. -J
Think of a computer program. Somewhere, there is one key instruction, and everything else is just functions calling themselves, or brackets billowing out endlessly through an infinite address space. What happens when the brackets collapse? Where's the final 'end if'? Is any of this making sense? -Ford Prefect
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I keep telling you, the major press, like the networks, is a reflection of society's desires. They have to be in order to keep the ratings/page views/subscriptions up. There was plenty of republican bias showing over the last few years when public sentiment leaned that way. Now, not so much. So, a victory for democracy abroad being not nearly the Springer show drama of political bitch-slapping at home, guess which one gets more ink.
vincent.reynolds wrote:
I keep telling you, the major press, like the networks, is a reflection of society's desires
which explains the loss of readership at the New York Times, LA Times and the rise of FoxNews and the loss of viewship to CNN, MSBNC and the news programs of the 3 major networks. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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I keep telling you, the major press, like the networks, is a reflection of society's desires. They have to be in order to keep the ratings/page views/subscriptions up. There was plenty of republican bias showing over the last few years when public sentiment leaned that way. Now, not so much. So, a victory for democracy abroad being not nearly the Springer show drama of political bitch-slapping at home, guess which one gets more ink.
vincent.reynolds wrote:
So, a victory for democracy abroad being not nearly the Springer show drama of political bitch-slapping at home, guess which one gets more ink.
i don't know where you guys live, but where i live, the national networks are all talking about the Iraq elections today. purple fingers are everywhere. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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vincent.reynolds wrote:
So, a victory for democracy abroad being not nearly the Springer show drama of political bitch-slapping at home, guess which one gets more ink.
i don't know where you guys live, but where i live, the national networks are all talking about the Iraq elections today. purple fingers are everywhere. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
You have to remember Stan's distorted view of the world. He's pissed because it isn't the ONLY news and his little god in the White House isn't getting a free pass on all his other stupidity because something good finally happened in Iraq. At any given instant there are considerably more assholes than mouths in the universe.
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vincent.reynolds wrote:
I keep telling you, the major press, like the networks, is a reflection of society's desires
which explains the loss of readership at the New York Times, LA Times and the rise of FoxNews and the loss of viewship to CNN, MSBNC and the news programs of the 3 major networks. Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
The red state population -- you know, the kind of people that do all their shopping at Wal-Mart and consider Waffle House to be fine dining -- is always going to opt for the sleazy mud-slinging and name-calling tabloid entertainment that Fox tries to pass off as news over actual information. And while the major news media panders to the bottom-feeders in the genetic aquarium, the rest of the country starts turning to other sources for their news. That's why they're losing numbers.
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The red state population -- you know, the kind of people that do all their shopping at Wal-Mart and consider Waffle House to be fine dining -- is always going to opt for the sleazy mud-slinging and name-calling tabloid entertainment that Fox tries to pass off as news over actual information. And while the major news media panders to the bottom-feeders in the genetic aquarium, the rest of the country starts turning to other sources for their news. That's why they're losing numbers.
the koolaid Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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...how the "non-biased" press starts loading the headlines with all the negative news they can find every time the Bush administration has some success. The big news today should be the successful elections in Iraq. But no, we get some e-mail from that socialist whore bitch Fienstien, and a report on military spending. Fucking treasonous assholes. :sigh: "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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You have to remember Stan's distorted view of the world. He's pissed because it isn't the ONLY news and his little god in the White House isn't getting a free pass on all his other stupidity because something good finally happened in Iraq. At any given instant there are considerably more assholes than mouths in the universe.
Bull shit. All the networks, all the major newpapers and all the major web news sites are leading with every negative report they can dredge up. I had CNN on for an hour and heard one 30 second spot on the Iraq elections but plenty of bullshit about how we have been liberated from the patriot act and how Bush 'secretly' spied on Americans. http://www.yahoo.com/[^] http://www.msn.com/[^] http://abcnews.go.com/[^] http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/home/main100.shtml[^] I don't give a shit about Bush one way or another. You won't find a single post where I have defended the man, beyond responding to the most ludicrous propaganda. But enough is enough, you fucking Marxist sons of whores. "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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As opposed to where the right pulls all of its "news" - out of Fox's fair and balanced asses.
At the risk of sounding pedantic, it's "Fox's fair, balanced and fat arse" ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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At the risk of sounding pedantic, it's "Fox's fair, balanced and fat arse" ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
fat arse
only "over there"[^] Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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the koolaid Mike "We ain't stuck on stupid." badass Lt. General Russel Honore **"Remember - live bunnies are a great source of nourishment"**silly-assed cartoon A vegan is someone who never heard a carrot cry! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
At least the left still has a tiny shred of intellectual honesty. The Republican party tries to convince people that they're the religious conservative response to an increasingly liberal and secular America, when they're less conservative in every respect -- but especially fiscally -- and more corrupt than any administration in my memory. Enjoy yours as well.
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At the risk of sounding pedantic, it's "Fox's fair, balanced and fat arse" ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Actually, I was referring to the individual asses that Fox News tries to pass off as journalists, not all of whom are fat. But my statement was ambiguous, so I accept and enjoy your pedantry :).