bin Laden's truce
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
but world says hes saudi arabian?
And? I would be extremely shocked if he had the authority to speak on Saudi's behalf. The tape might boost Bush's poll standings briefly, though I doubt it, but so what? It's utterly meaningless. Few people in the US, except the media, pay attention to the polls unless there is an election at stake. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wrightdear brain its you and me think ,majority of ignorants associate him with a muslim country then they make fun or bash my religion,and majority of posts by others would give you proof about it Polls re not necessary for elections too,i remmeber US citizens reacted a lot when lots of deadbodies were being sent from Iraq,then all of sudden OSama came in similarly in last election,tht was on nov4 i think,bush graph was low,all of sudden OSama came on tv in last week of october and bush graph went hight. this is the US nation,claims to be educated and intelligent but driven easily but army of few people.
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dear brain its you and me think ,majority of ignorants associate him with a muslim country then they make fun or bash my religion,and majority of posts by others would give you proof about it Polls re not necessary for elections too,i remmeber US citizens reacted a lot when lots of deadbodies were being sent from Iraq,then all of sudden OSama came in similarly in last election,tht was on nov4 i think,bush graph was low,all of sudden OSama came on tv in last week of october and bush graph went hight. this is the US nation,claims to be educated and intelligent but driven easily but army of few people.
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I'm not saying polls won't change, but what they mean isn't really always clear. You'd have to look at the specific questions, how they are asked, who asked them, who was asked. If polls jump after an Osama tape, it does little or nothing to change what is happening. The polls jump after quarterly news on the economy too, but over the long haul these are just blips. Most people I know aren't even talking about the tape. They simply don't care what Osama is saying. As for people bashing your religion: The main I reason I see for this is that, in the "west", we see little from the global Muslim community denouncing terrorist activities. What we hear is how Islam is a peaceful religion, but do not see how that peace is being spread. There is a double standard when it comes to accountability for actions. The west is corrupt, misinformed and evil, while Muslim's actions are justified no matter what. For example, why only become outraged at the US bombing in Pakistan, why not stand up and be outraged at car-bombers in Iraq who also kill innocent women and children? Maybe people are outraged, but that message is not getting through. There is no concerted effort against it. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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Christian Graus wrote:
What - 'and you possess divine truth' ? That's what I replied to.
But that was my reply to a reply of my reply.
Christian Graus wrote:
Really ? I thought Islam was founded in Africa, thanks for the insight.
You're welcome.
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, that's just dumb on so many levels. 1. Have you read the Quran ? If not, how can you comment ? 2. If they are the same, why would Mohammed have bothered writing the Quran, if he had two other religions to choose from that were, according to you, the same ?
I don't have to read the Quran. There are lots of documentation about that, whether it is in favor of the idea or not. If you read my original reply, I say:
And also, many believe that the christian's God and Allah are the same "entity", but with different names, but I am not sure.
Please, don't make it look like I made a statement.
Christian Graus wrote:
Sure. My argument is that any suggestion that the god presented in the Quran is the same as the God of Christianity or even Judaism involves a lot of faith and a lot of refusing to read any of the texts involved.
That is your argument about the subject. I don't have any, I was just mentioning what some people believed (or not).
Christian Graus wrote:
The most obvious example I can think of is that in the NT, Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. In the Quran, Jesus is just a man. That's a pretty big part of the nature of the Christian God that Islam rejects, making the two entities fundamentally different. I also found heaps of stuff on how the Quran contradicts the Bible via google, but mostly with regard to the details of stories.
You refer to books that often contradicts themselves. Do you believe those books? They were written by lunatics. You know, people have different points of view that often differ, and often people don't agree with other's opinions, and go to war to crush them just because they don't think the same. I find this very dumb, whatever side does (mine or theirs). It is just plain stupid. And to justify their point of views, they write books about illuminations and revelations they had. Give me a break, here! On a totally unrelated note, I have a good movie suggestion for
Michel Prévost wrote:
You're welcome.
I guess my sarcasm was lost on you
Michel Prévost wrote:
You refer to books that often contradicts themselves. Do you believe those books? They were written by lunatics.
You're welcome to your opinion.
Michel Prévost wrote:
It is just plain stupid.
Obviously
Michel Prévost wrote:
And to justify their point of views, they write books about illuminations and revelations they had. Give me a break, here!
If this is reference to the Bible, you've obviously not got any idea what it says.
Michel Prévost wrote:
On a totally unrelated note, I have a good movie suggestion for you:
Brilliant movie. Did you know that movie started as a joke that they were going to do a film about Christ, they read the new testament and decided not to do a film about Him directly, because they decided He was actually a decent bloke you said some good things ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Michel Prévost wrote:
You're welcome.
I guess my sarcasm was lost on you
Michel Prévost wrote:
You refer to books that often contradicts themselves. Do you believe those books? They were written by lunatics.
You're welcome to your opinion.
Michel Prévost wrote:
It is just plain stupid.
Obviously
Michel Prévost wrote:
And to justify their point of views, they write books about illuminations and revelations they had. Give me a break, here!
If this is reference to the Bible, you've obviously not got any idea what it says.
Michel Prévost wrote:
On a totally unrelated note, I have a good movie suggestion for you:
Brilliant movie. Did you know that movie started as a joke that they were going to do a film about Christ, they read the new testament and decided not to do a film about Him directly, because they decided He was actually a decent bloke you said some good things ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
I guess my sarcasm was lost on you
I guess mine was lost on you too. At first, I intended to surround that "You're welcome" with <sarcasm> tags, but changed my mind, to see if you would catch it.
Christian Graus wrote:
Brilliant movie. Did you know that movie started as a joke that they were going to do a film about Christ, they read the new testament and decided not to do a film about Him directly, because they decided He was actually a decent bloke you said some good things ?
That is possible, I am no Monty Python expert, although a fan. Do you have any link to website where Terry Jones tells this? -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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Christian Graus wrote:
I guess my sarcasm was lost on you
I guess mine was lost on you too. At first, I intended to surround that "You're welcome" with <sarcasm> tags, but changed my mind, to see if you would catch it.
Christian Graus wrote:
Brilliant movie. Did you know that movie started as a joke that they were going to do a film about Christ, they read the new testament and decided not to do a film about Him directly, because they decided He was actually a decent bloke you said some good things ?
That is possible, I am no Monty Python expert, although a fan. Do you have any link to website where Terry Jones tells this? -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
From memory, it's in the extras of the special edition, or it was in the book that was released around the time of the movie. The commentary by John Cleese is very tiresome, he just complains about people who assumed Brian was Jesus and boycotted the film. There are two commentaries, the other one is very funny indeed. John Cleese has had too much therapy, IMO. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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From memory, it's in the extras of the special edition, or it was in the book that was released around the time of the movie. The commentary by John Cleese is very tiresome, he just complains about people who assumed Brian was Jesus and boycotted the film. There are two commentaries, the other one is very funny indeed. John Cleese has had too much therapy, IMO. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
I have the DVD, I will have a look. Thanks. -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson