Islamic terrorists fear losing control of their women.
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His books are replete with independent women in restrictive societies. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
Paul Watson wrote:
His books are replete with independent women in restrictive societies.
That setting allows for some dramatic stuff I bet. Most Indian movies about Muslim women have similar settings too. Regards, Nish
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Salman Rushdie says it's fuelled by deep anxiety about female sexual freedom You may find this strange. The first country to ban his book the "Satanic Verses" [on October-5-1988] wasn't a Muslim country. It was Rushdie's country of birth India, followed by South Africa [November-24-1988].
Of course thats the reason. I am amazed anyone would doubt it. Control of women is what Islam is all about. I mean, lets face it, unrestrained female liberation is a difficult enough thing for even open minded western males to be fully comfortable with. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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Salman Rushdie says it's fuelled by deep anxiety about female sexual freedom You may find this strange. The first country to ban his book the "Satanic Verses" [on October-5-1988] wasn't a Muslim country. It was Rushdie's country of birth India, followed by South Africa [November-24-1988].
From the comments at the bottom of the linked article:
abuafraan Says (2006-01-19 14:39:52):
nobody can comment on this.this is totally foolish.how anybody can say he is a author?
I would say that it is because he has books published. But then again, maybe my interpretation of what an author is is a bit old fashioned and traditional. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell
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Salman Rushdie says it's fuelled by deep anxiety about female sexual freedom You may find this strange. The first country to ban his book the "Satanic Verses" [on October-5-1988] wasn't a Muslim country. It was Rushdie's country of birth India, followed by South Africa [November-24-1988].
Kind of reminds me of a joke I heard a stand-up comic do, "Why are so many Muslim teenage girls starting to have sex earlier?" "Because they don't want to end up dying young and having to spend eternity having sex with suicide bombers" Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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You mean, all this terrorism stuff is basically to prevent the rest of the world from seeing and appreciating those beautiful arab women, which we currently cannot because of the veils? Damn! :rolleyes: Regards, Nish
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Nish, you are getting so Westernized it's scary!!!! You're even making jokes and cursing!!!! :)
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From the comments at the bottom of the linked article:
abuafraan Says (2006-01-19 14:39:52):
nobody can comment on this.this is totally foolish.how anybody can say he is a author?
I would say that it is because he has books published. But then again, maybe my interpretation of what an author is is a bit old fashioned and traditional. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell
As soon as you write something, you're an author, aren't you? You don't have to have your work published in order to call yourself author (although, that would be meaningless). "how anybody can say he is a author" is a clear indication that abuafraan might not know the meaning of the word "author". :)
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As soon as you write something, you're an author, aren't you? You don't have to have your work published in order to call yourself author (although, that would be meaningless). "how anybody can say he is a author" is a clear indication that abuafraan might not know the meaning of the word "author". :)
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
You don't have to have your work published in order to call yourself author
True, but publication adds a significant element of ligitimacy to the title. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
You don't have to have your work published in order to call yourself author
True, but publication adds a significant element of ligitimacy to the title. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell
Not only that but Rushdie is one of our time's greatest authors. To say that he isn't an author is simply ignorance (or denial). regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!
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Salman Rushdie says it's fuelled by deep anxiety about female sexual freedom You may find this strange. The first country to ban his book the "Satanic Verses" [on October-5-1988] wasn't a Muslim country. It was Rushdie's country of birth India, followed by South Africa [November-24-1988].
Mirza Ghalib wrote:
it's fuelled by deep anxiety about female sexual freedom
Sometimes I am filled with the same anxiety.
Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
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Mirza Ghalib wrote:
it's fuelled by deep anxiety about female sexual freedom
Sometimes I am filled with the same anxiety.
Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighistYou don't have to say yes to everything women ask of you in bed. :rolleyes: :-D
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You don't have to say yes to everything women ask of you in bed. :rolleyes: :-D
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You mean, all this terrorism stuff is basically to prevent the rest of the world from seeing and appreciating those beautiful arab women, which we currently cannot because of the veils? Damn! :rolleyes: Regards, Nish
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I wonder whether your wife used to wear small skirts and blouse in Kerala and your mom used to get pleased after seeing her exposed body. i wonder whether you get pleased when others stare her body when she goes out in minimum outfit on roads od toronto. Personally,its so horrible to see south indians in western outfits,better they keep themselves in veils:rolleyes:
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I wonder whether your wife used to wear small skirts and blouse in Kerala and your mom used to get pleased after seeing her exposed body. i wonder whether you get pleased when others stare her body when she goes out in minimum outfit on roads od toronto. Personally,its so horrible to see south indians in western outfits,better they keep themselves in veils:rolleyes:
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I wonder whether your wife used to wear small skirts and blouse in Kerala and your mom used to get pleased after seeing her exposed body.
The truth is, that a women who has to be forced to behave in a chaste way will never be anything but an angry, frustrated slut, regardless of how she dresses. I know that both my wife and my mother are women who respect themsleves and live decent, moral lives. I know that because they had the freedom to choose to do otherwise. Can you say the same thing about yours? "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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I wonder whether your wife used to wear small skirts and blouse in Kerala and your mom used to get pleased after seeing her exposed body. i wonder whether you get pleased when others stare her body when she goes out in minimum outfit on roads od toronto. Personally,its so horrible to see south indians in western outfits,better they keep themselves in veils:rolleyes:
dext0r wrote:
Personally,its so horrible to see south indians in western outfits,better they keep themselves in veils
Personally, I would say that it is their choice, not yours or that of any other man. The sooner societies around the world learn to accept that and the fact that all people are equal and should be treated acordingly the better off we'll all be as a species. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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dext0r wrote:
I wonder whether your wife used to wear small skirts and blouse in Kerala and your mom used to get pleased after seeing her exposed body.
The truth is, that a women who has to be forced to behave in a chaste way will never be anything but an angry, frustrated slut, regardless of how she dresses. I know that both my wife and my mother are women who respect themsleves and live decent, moral lives. I know that because they had the freedom to choose to do otherwise. Can you say the same thing about yours? "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
first of all,i am not so desprate to see other chicks without veil,that is nishan`ts dream to see them like that,ignoring the fact that his family belongs to India where things are opposite to west.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I know that both my wife and my mother are women who respect themsleves and live decent, moral lives. I know that because they had the freedom to choose to do otherwise.
do you think women who takes veils or women in east have no freedom,that just shows your lack of knowledge about other part of world. here in UAE,women works from both muslim and non-muslim countries,few take viel(including non-muslims) while others wear jeans(including chubby girls from Pakistan and India) and both kinds of women hangout freely with peers,i know this because they are my colleagues.Offcourse i have no doubt that your family women wouldn`t be pious,but you can`t say same for other people on road,can you?how would you feel if someone pass remarks about figure of your wife or young daugther?A normal man wouldn`t like that..atleast in eastern society,maybe western ppl feels proud of it,so its all about culture not a religion.I bet Nishant`s mother used to wear sarees,a traditional outfit of sub-continent rather skirts and tops and i`m also sure that she dosnt feel uncomfortable anyway. so my friend,vieling doesn`t bring discomfort in life,nor exposing body give pleasure of freedom.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Can you say the same thing about yours?
yes,my wife works in a bank,covers herself properly,she drives car,she is a good swimmer as well,and she`s not stared by strangers on roads as she keeps herself covered,i didnt ask her to cover herself,it was her choice and i respect her decision.
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first of all,i am not so desprate to see other chicks without veil,that is nishan`ts dream to see them like that,ignoring the fact that his family belongs to India where things are opposite to west.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I know that both my wife and my mother are women who respect themsleves and live decent, moral lives. I know that because they had the freedom to choose to do otherwise.
do you think women who takes veils or women in east have no freedom,that just shows your lack of knowledge about other part of world. here in UAE,women works from both muslim and non-muslim countries,few take viel(including non-muslims) while others wear jeans(including chubby girls from Pakistan and India) and both kinds of women hangout freely with peers,i know this because they are my colleagues.Offcourse i have no doubt that your family women wouldn`t be pious,but you can`t say same for other people on road,can you?how would you feel if someone pass remarks about figure of your wife or young daugther?A normal man wouldn`t like that..atleast in eastern society,maybe western ppl feels proud of it,so its all about culture not a religion.I bet Nishant`s mother used to wear sarees,a traditional outfit of sub-continent rather skirts and tops and i`m also sure that she dosnt feel uncomfortable anyway. so my friend,vieling doesn`t bring discomfort in life,nor exposing body give pleasure of freedom.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Can you say the same thing about yours?
yes,my wife works in a bank,covers herself properly,she drives car,she is a good swimmer as well,and she`s not stared by strangers on roads as she keeps herself covered,i didnt ask her to cover herself,it was her choice and i respect her decision.
dext0r wrote:
how would you feel if someone pass remarks about figure of your wife or young daugther?A normal man wouldn`t like that..atleast in eastern society,maybe western ppl feels proud of it,so its all about culture not a religion.I
That observation relates more to the quality of your men, rather than that of your women. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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first of all,i am not so desprate to see other chicks without veil,that is nishan`ts dream to see them like that,ignoring the fact that his family belongs to India where things are opposite to west.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I know that both my wife and my mother are women who respect themsleves and live decent, moral lives. I know that because they had the freedom to choose to do otherwise.
do you think women who takes veils or women in east have no freedom,that just shows your lack of knowledge about other part of world. here in UAE,women works from both muslim and non-muslim countries,few take viel(including non-muslims) while others wear jeans(including chubby girls from Pakistan and India) and both kinds of women hangout freely with peers,i know this because they are my colleagues.Offcourse i have no doubt that your family women wouldn`t be pious,but you can`t say same for other people on road,can you?how would you feel if someone pass remarks about figure of your wife or young daugther?A normal man wouldn`t like that..atleast in eastern society,maybe western ppl feels proud of it,so its all about culture not a religion.I bet Nishant`s mother used to wear sarees,a traditional outfit of sub-continent rather skirts and tops and i`m also sure that she dosnt feel uncomfortable anyway. so my friend,vieling doesn`t bring discomfort in life,nor exposing body give pleasure of freedom.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Can you say the same thing about yours?
yes,my wife works in a bank,covers herself properly,she drives car,she is a good swimmer as well,and she`s not stared by strangers on roads as she keeps herself covered,i didnt ask her to cover herself,it was her choice and i respect her decision.
dext0r wrote:
here in UAE,women works from both muslim and non-muslim countries,few take viel(including non-muslims) while others wear jeans(including chubby girls from Pakistan and India) and both kinds of women hangout freely with peers
The UAE is modern and progressive society. Rushdie was speaking of Islamic extremism. As in AlQaeda, Taliban, Lashkar E Toiba etc. The ideal position on issues like this is one of moderation. A quote from an article by Amir Taheri.
Taheri wrote:
A thousand years ago Muslims could say and write things that they cannot today without being put on a death-list from a self-styled mullah somewhere. To prevent extremists from abusing its openness, Islam developed mechanisms designed to encourage moderation. The Prophet's saying, "The best position on {all} matters is a moderate one", was used to develop the concept of "excess" (ghulow) which is regarded as a sin in all matters, including, interesting to note, the worship of God.
This article was originally published in Gulf News, a UAE daily. The full text of the article is given here
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dext0r wrote:
here in UAE,women works from both muslim and non-muslim countries,few take viel(including non-muslims) while others wear jeans(including chubby girls from Pakistan and India) and both kinds of women hangout freely with peers
The UAE is modern and progressive society. Rushdie was speaking of Islamic extremism. As in AlQaeda, Taliban, Lashkar E Toiba etc. The ideal position on issues like this is one of moderation. A quote from an article by Amir Taheri.
Taheri wrote:
A thousand years ago Muslims could say and write things that they cannot today without being put on a death-list from a self-styled mullah somewhere. To prevent extremists from abusing its openness, Islam developed mechanisms designed to encourage moderation. The Prophet's saying, "The best position on {all} matters is a moderate one", was used to develop the concept of "excess" (ghulow) which is regarded as a sin in all matters, including, interesting to note, the worship of God.
This article was originally published in Gulf News, a UAE daily. The full text of the article is given here
Incidentally, I do not agree with Rushdie's diagnosis. I posted this here as a curiosity item. He is prone to exaggeration and will say anything to attract publicity. Amir Taheri's article gives a more mature analysis of Islamic extremism.
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dext0r wrote:
how would you feel if someone pass remarks about figure of your wife or young daugther?A normal man wouldn`t like that..atleast in eastern society,maybe western ppl feels proud of it,so its all about culture not a religion.I
That observation relates more to the quality of your men, rather than that of your women. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
Stan Shannon wrote:
dext0r wrote: how would you feel if someone pass remarks about figure of your wife or young daugther?A normal man wouldn`t like that..atleast in eastern society,maybe western ppl feels proud of it,so its all about culture not a religion.I That observation relates more to the quality of your men, rather than that of your women.
well a bit confused,which *quality* are you relating with men,the staring one or have thinking that others stare to their women? i think men do stare women in every part of world,regardless of their belief,its their instinct,some stare more while others are moderate
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dext0r wrote:
here in UAE,women works from both muslim and non-muslim countries,few take viel(including non-muslims) while others wear jeans(including chubby girls from Pakistan and India) and both kinds of women hangout freely with peers
The UAE is modern and progressive society. Rushdie was speaking of Islamic extremism. As in AlQaeda, Taliban, Lashkar E Toiba etc. The ideal position on issues like this is one of moderation. A quote from an article by Amir Taheri.
Taheri wrote:
A thousand years ago Muslims could say and write things that they cannot today without being put on a death-list from a self-styled mullah somewhere. To prevent extremists from abusing its openness, Islam developed mechanisms designed to encourage moderation. The Prophet's saying, "The best position on {all} matters is a moderate one", was used to develop the concept of "excess" (ghulow) which is regarded as a sin in all matters, including, interesting to note, the worship of God.
This article was originally published in Gulf News, a UAE daily. The full text of the article is given here
many muslim states are modern and dont reflect extreemism anyway,infact noone. regarding alqeda etc,they are like any other groups ,you may easily find such groups in every country or religion and such groups are not appreciated by majority.
Mirza Ghalib wrote:
A thousand years ago Muslims could say and write things that they cannot today without being put on a death-list from a self-styled mullah somewhere.
yes its true,there are severel illetrate mullahs in muslim society,here illetrate means who don`t have basic idea of a religioin`s teaching and they like to interpretate things literally rather going into depth. And this is not among muslim society only,history has told us about orthodox Christian preiests who had rejected Galileo`s theory long time back,because according to them,it was against their bible as they were used to follow Copernicus's theory.