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can machine emitate the human brain

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    shazzney
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    hi to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can machine emitate and surpass the working of the human brain. God bless.............thank you.... regads...

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      hi to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can machine emitate and surpass the working of the human brain. God bless.............thank you.... regads...

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      Human thinking can of course be represented on any level by a program, its just so complex that such a prorgram would need a lot of programmers and a huge space for it to run on effectively. The human brain is just so complex that we cease to see it as a set of instructions, but if you break everything you do down if (this.Money >= Groceries.Cost) { this.Buy(Groceries); } else break; When you go to do anything, you think about it on a very high level, you ask yourself "Is it worth doing this?", when this can incorporate basic things such as "Am I too tired", "Am I too hungry / thirsty", "Is it cold outside" etc. Well thats my opinion anyway

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        Human thinking can of course be represented on any level by a program, its just so complex that such a prorgram would need a lot of programmers and a huge space for it to run on effectively. The human brain is just so complex that we cease to see it as a set of instructions, but if you break everything you do down if (this.Money >= Groceries.Cost) { this.Buy(Groceries); } else break; When you go to do anything, you think about it on a very high level, you ask yourself "Is it worth doing this?", when this can incorporate basic things such as "Am I too tired", "Am I too hungry / thirsty", "Is it cold outside" etc. Well thats my opinion anyway

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        I dont think that we will live to see a machine imitating the human brain. The most critical reason being: If we imitate a human brain to 100% accuracy, we are giving that machine the ability to feel and develop self-consciousness. If it then does, we have created life. And noone can tell how the machine would react - and given its direct interface to computers, what it would do. Or: If I go work in the laboratory the machine is bound to, trip over its power-cable and thus cause a loss of memory, didn't I just murder another self-aware being? Since I bet there will be no solution to the "abortion: yes or no"-debate until that time (I suspect we'll never reach one), I seriously doubt that a "machine-murder" could be solved easily. I believe that imitating a human brain (to 100%) MIGHT someday be possible, but I doubt that anyone will do it. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.

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          I dont think that we will live to see a machine imitating the human brain. The most critical reason being: If we imitate a human brain to 100% accuracy, we are giving that machine the ability to feel and develop self-consciousness. If it then does, we have created life. And noone can tell how the machine would react - and given its direct interface to computers, what it would do. Or: If I go work in the laboratory the machine is bound to, trip over its power-cable and thus cause a loss of memory, didn't I just murder another self-aware being? Since I bet there will be no solution to the "abortion: yes or no"-debate until that time (I suspect we'll never reach one), I seriously doubt that a "machine-murder" could be solved easily. I believe that imitating a human brain (to 100%) MIGHT someday be possible, but I doubt that anyone will do it. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.

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          Sebastian Schneider wrote:

          If it then does, we have created life.

          terminator ?! :rolleyes:


          TOXCCT >>> GEII power
          [toxcct][VisualCalc 2.20][VCalc 3.0 soon...]

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            Sebastian Schneider wrote:

            If it then does, we have created life.

            terminator ?! :rolleyes:


            TOXCCT >>> GEII power
            [toxcct][VisualCalc 2.20][VCalc 3.0 soon...]

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            Sebastian Schneider
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            The Terminators are not alive. They are merely programmed machines, though they have a certain degree of autonomy. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.

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              Human thinking can of course be represented on any level by a program, its just so complex that such a prorgram would need a lot of programmers and a huge space for it to run on effectively. The human brain is just so complex that we cease to see it as a set of instructions, but if you break everything you do down if (this.Money >= Groceries.Cost) { this.Buy(Groceries); } else break; When you go to do anything, you think about it on a very high level, you ask yourself "Is it worth doing this?", when this can incorporate basic things such as "Am I too tired", "Am I too hungry / thirsty", "Is it cold outside" etc. Well thats my opinion anyway

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              In the early 60s a lot of mathematicians worked on strong KI (a machine that could think like a human being). But in the 80s they recognized that it's not possible to build such a KI with todays computers and programming languages. Sure it's possible to build a weak KI, a machine that decides on if then ... else ... code. And such machines are devoled. Some robots have already weak KI. The human brain seems not to react just like if then ... else ... There is just a lot of more behind it. If you see a book you like to read for 4$ you might buy it. But five minutes later, without changing your mind in wanting it and without having another amount of money, you might don't buy it. Perhaps there are only so many factors, so we can't make up our mind on one or two but on one thousand or million. On the other side nobody knows. Then there is the brain power. If you say the world "hello" there are so many circuits involved, that ported to the telephone net everybody on the world could ring up another person. The brain has enough power that you could drive every car on the world at the same time, if you had enough hands, feet, eyes and ears. There are more possible different wirings between the synapses in brain than protons in the universe. The data needed for a set up of our body would need so much space that you need a pile of harddiscs reaching over 100000 miles high. So its a little bit tricky to build a hard KI, yet. Perhaps if we got a little more power in our computersystems (ask again, if they are one billion times faster), for example a quantum computer. I hope all indications are correct. I've read them in different books, but I didn't looked them up yet, they came just from my brain and that may have more ram than all computers in the world together (like any other human brain), but the stored data isn't correct all time ;) Greetings from Germany

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                Sebastian Schneider wrote:

                If it then does, we have created life.

                terminator ?! :rolleyes:


                TOXCCT >>> GEII power
                [toxcct][VisualCalc 2.20][VCalc 3.0 soon...]

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                the matrix has you

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