Free trade and energy priorities, according to the idiot
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So swapping dependency on Middle Easter Oil to Brazilian ethanol gains them exactly what? :confused: I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
DRHuff wrote:
So swapping dependency on Middle Easter Oil to Brazilian ethanol gains them exactly what?
1. Diversification[^] - Diversification reduces both the upside and downside potential and allows for more consistent performance under a wide range of economic conditions. 2. The chance to enlarge the portion of the energy infrastructure not dependent on oil, thereby increasing the incentive for domestic ethanol production? ----------------------------------------------------- Empires Of Steel[^]
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From the NY Times[^]: "In his State of the Union address in January, Mr. Bush backed financing for "cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, ..." with the goal of making ethanol competitive in six years. But Brazil's path has taken 30 years of effort, required several billion dollars in incentives and involved many missteps. While not always easy, it provides clues to the real challenges facing the United States' ambitions. Brazilian officials and scientists say that, in their country at least, the main barriers to the broader use of ethanol today come from outside. Brazil's ethanol yields nearly eight times as much energy as corn-based options, according to scientific data. Yet heavy import duties on the Brazilian product have limited its entry into the United States and Europe." So, according to what the jackass says, free trade and breaking the american addiction to oil are priorities but according to what he does you can't use the first to solve the second, right? Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
C'mon, give Our Exalted Leader a break. He's so busy trying to figure out how to escape the tightening noose formed by the unraveling web of his lies that he really doesn't have time to think about things like (spoken with a bit of a hiss) "logicalistic con-NEC-shuns".
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From the NY Times[^]: "In his State of the Union address in January, Mr. Bush backed financing for "cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, ..." with the goal of making ethanol competitive in six years. But Brazil's path has taken 30 years of effort, required several billion dollars in incentives and involved many missteps. While not always easy, it provides clues to the real challenges facing the United States' ambitions. Brazilian officials and scientists say that, in their country at least, the main barriers to the broader use of ethanol today come from outside. Brazil's ethanol yields nearly eight times as much energy as corn-based options, according to scientific data. Yet heavy import duties on the Brazilian product have limited its entry into the United States and Europe." So, according to what the jackass says, free trade and breaking the american addiction to oil are priorities but according to what he does you can't use the first to solve the second, right? Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
So the only reason the US isn't importing Brazilian ethanol is because Bush is an idiot? It has nothing to do with all those farm state congressmen serving the financial interests of their own districts? I don't think Bush is the only idiot in the house, jackass. "You get that which you tolerate"
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From the NY Times[^]: "In his State of the Union address in January, Mr. Bush backed financing for "cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, ..." with the goal of making ethanol competitive in six years. But Brazil's path has taken 30 years of effort, required several billion dollars in incentives and involved many missteps. While not always easy, it provides clues to the real challenges facing the United States' ambitions. Brazilian officials and scientists say that, in their country at least, the main barriers to the broader use of ethanol today come from outside. Brazil's ethanol yields nearly eight times as much energy as corn-based options, according to scientific data. Yet heavy import duties on the Brazilian product have limited its entry into the United States and Europe." So, according to what the jackass says, free trade and breaking the american addiction to oil are priorities but according to what he does you can't use the first to solve the second, right? Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders... :rolleyes: "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov
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Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders... :rolleyes: "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov
Insulting world leaders is a way of life - Nothing wrong with it. Steve
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So the only reason the US isn't importing Brazilian ethanol is because Bush is an idiot? It has nothing to do with all those farm state congressmen serving the financial interests of their own districts? I don't think Bush is the only idiot in the house, jackass. "You get that which you tolerate"
Darn, Stan. I was gonna give you a good rating until you started name calling.
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Darn, Stan. I was gonna give you a good rating until you started name calling.
Hey, at least he finally admitted that Bush is an idiot!
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Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders... :rolleyes: "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders...
You've never insulted Chirac, Schroeder, Putin, Chavez, Arafat .... ?
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Hey, at least he finally admitted that Bush is an idiot!
Have I ever said otherwise? "You get that which you tolerate"
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders...
You've never insulted Chirac, Schroeder, Putin, Chavez, Arafat .... ?
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Insulting world leaders is a way of life - Nothing wrong with it. Steve
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders...
You've never insulted Chirac, Schroeder, Putin, Chavez, Arafat .... ?
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Chirac, Schroeder, Putin, Chavez, Arafat
Who? "You get that which you tolerate"
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So swapping dependency on Middle Easter Oil to Brazilian ethanol gains them exactly what? :confused: I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
DRHuff wrote:
So swapping dependency on Middle Easter Oil to Brazilian ethanol gains them exactly what?
It is not just about buying our ethanol. I'm proposing what the Bush administration pretendes to propose: free trade. You depend on our ethanol and agriculture and we depend in your services and industrialized comodoties. Mutual dependency, that's how we (both) build peace and wealth. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
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So the only reason the US isn't importing Brazilian ethanol is because Bush is an idiot? It has nothing to do with all those farm state congressmen serving the financial interests of their own districts? I don't think Bush is the only idiot in the house, jackass. "You get that which you tolerate"
Stan Shannon wrote:
So the only reason the US isn't importing Brazilian ethanol is because Bush is an idiot? It has nothing to do with all those farm state congressmen serving the financial interests of their own districts? I don't think Bush is the only idiot in the house
EXCELENT!:-D
Stan Shannon wrote:
, jackass.
not so good... Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
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Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders... :rolleyes: "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders...
It is not an insult, it is a fact. BTW, our president ( Lula ) is not better than yours. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders...
You've never insulted Chirac, Schroeder, Putin, Chavez, Arafat .... ?
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
You've never insulted Chirac, Schroeder, Putin, Chavez, Arafat .... ?
:) Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders...
It is not an insult, it is a fact. BTW, our president ( Lula ) is not better than yours. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
Diego Moita wrote:
Lula
Lula? Sounds like a good name for a circus clown. "You get that which you tolerate"
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DRHuff wrote:
So swapping dependency on Middle Easter Oil to Brazilian ethanol gains them exactly what?
It is not just about buying our ethanol. I'm proposing what the Bush administration pretendes to propose: free trade. You depend on our ethanol and agriculture and we depend in your services and industrialized comodoties. Mutual dependency, that's how we (both) build peace and wealth. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
Diego Moita wrote:
I'm proposing what the Bush administration pretendes to propose: free trade. You depend on our ethanol and agriculture and we depend in your services and industrialized comodoties. Mutual dependency, that's how we (both) build peace and wealth.
Any politician who might propose that would lose every farm state in the country. That would only leave our new hispanic states, so... hmmmm ... I suppose that might work after all. "You get that which you tolerate"
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DRHuff wrote:
So swapping dependency on Middle Easter Oil to Brazilian ethanol gains them exactly what?
1. Diversification[^] - Diversification reduces both the upside and downside potential and allows for more consistent performance under a wide range of economic conditions. 2. The chance to enlarge the portion of the energy infrastructure not dependent on oil, thereby increasing the incentive for domestic ethanol production? ----------------------------------------------------- Empires Of Steel[^]
Good points. But I still say that Mr. Fusion thing that the Doc had in Back to the Future is THE way to go! :-D I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders...
It is not an insult, it is a fact. BTW, our president ( Lula ) is not better than yours. Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
Diego Moita wrote:
BTW, our president ( Lula ) is not better than yours.
Really? How many times have you insulted Lula here in the soapbox. Provide links. "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov