Free trade and energy priorities, according to the idiot
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From the NY Times[^]: "In his State of the Union address in January, Mr. Bush backed financing for "cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, ..." with the goal of making ethanol competitive in six years. But Brazil's path has taken 30 years of effort, required several billion dollars in incentives and involved many missteps. While not always easy, it provides clues to the real challenges facing the United States' ambitions. Brazilian officials and scientists say that, in their country at least, the main barriers to the broader use of ethanol today come from outside. Brazil's ethanol yields nearly eight times as much energy as corn-based options, according to scientific data. Yet heavy import duties on the Brazilian product have limited its entry into the United States and Europe." So, according to what the jackass says, free trade and breaking the american addiction to oil are priorities but according to what he does you can't use the first to solve the second, right? Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
Diego Moita wrote:
So, according to what the jackass says, free trade and breaking the american addiction to oil are priorities but according to what he does you can't use the first to solve the second, right?
How the hell you get that based on your quote is beyond me. Unless you're just pissed we're not buying from Brazil. If we don't buy your corn, go get some butter and pop the shit and watch a movie and quit your damn whining. Suffice it to say, your level of candour used in this post only strengthens the point that coming to the SB for unbiased political discussion is virtually impossible. Jeremy Falcon
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There is no denying that being the President is hard job - No matter what you do someone is going to whine. That said, you don't always have to know what it's like to be the President to disagree with one. Steve
Stephen Hewitt wrote:
That said, you don't always have to know what it's like to be the President to disagree with one.
But it sure would help before you start flying off the handle with stupid insults like this guy did. Jeremy Falcon
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From the NY Times[^]: "In his State of the Union address in January, Mr. Bush backed financing for "cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, ..." with the goal of making ethanol competitive in six years. But Brazil's path has taken 30 years of effort, required several billion dollars in incentives and involved many missteps. While not always easy, it provides clues to the real challenges facing the United States' ambitions. Brazilian officials and scientists say that, in their country at least, the main barriers to the broader use of ethanol today come from outside. Brazil's ethanol yields nearly eight times as much energy as corn-based options, according to scientific data. Yet heavy import duties on the Brazilian product have limited its entry into the United States and Europe." So, according to what the jackass says, free trade and breaking the american addiction to oil are priorities but according to what he does you can't use the first to solve the second, right? Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
You are still thinking of "free" as in "free beer". But free means "free to sell everything everywhere, and by every resource we don't have". The EU uisn't much vbetter, but at least doesn't act like a poster child.
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So swapping dependency on Middle Easter Oil to Brazilian ethanol gains them exactly what? :confused: I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
DRHuff wrote:
swapping dependency on Middle Easter Oil to Brazilian ethanol gains them exactly what?
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Someday I hope to be so pure and perfect that I feel the need to insult foreign presidents, prime ministers or leaders... :rolleyes: "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov
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From the NY Times[^]: "In his State of the Union address in January, Mr. Bush backed financing for "cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, ..." with the goal of making ethanol competitive in six years. But Brazil's path has taken 30 years of effort, required several billion dollars in incentives and involved many missteps. While not always easy, it provides clues to the real challenges facing the United States' ambitions. Brazilian officials and scientists say that, in their country at least, the main barriers to the broader use of ethanol today come from outside. Brazil's ethanol yields nearly eight times as much energy as corn-based options, according to scientific data. Yet heavy import duties on the Brazilian product have limited its entry into the United States and Europe." So, according to what the jackass says, free trade and breaking the american addiction to oil are priorities but according to what he does you can't use the first to solve the second, right? Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
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Didn't you know that 'free trade' means that labor market of underdeveloped economies can be exploitated by companies from more developed economies and nothing else?
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It's worked for south east asia. Western hypocrisy around farming subsidies is inexcusable. The EU is of course a major (if not the worst) culprit. Farming subsidies also seem to bring about bad farming, at least in this country. Ryan
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It's worked for south east asia. Western hypocrisy around farming subsidies is inexcusable. The EU is of course a major (if not the worst) culprit. Farming subsidies also seem to bring about bad farming, at least in this country. Ryan
"Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette
Ryan Roberts wrote:
It's worked for south east asia
AFAIK, south east asian countries didn't remove trade protection before being able to compete. Nowadays poor countries are asked to accept free trade when they have no mean to succeed to compete.
Ryan Roberts wrote:
Western hypocrisy around farming subsidies is inexcusable.
Yes, and No. Yes because subsidies hurt poor countries, no because food is a strategic resource and keeping the means to feed its population seems reasonable. So IMHO subsidies are unfair when they enable western nations to export.
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C'mon, give Our Exalted Leader a break. He's so busy trying to figure out how to escape the tightening noose formed by the unraveling web of his lies that he really doesn't have time to think about things like (spoken with a bit of a hiss) "logicalistic con-NEC-shuns".
Jim A. Johnson wrote:
C'mon, give Our Exalted Leader a break. He's so busy trying to figure out how to escape the tightening noose formed by the unraveling web of his lies
Really? What lies? I'm really interested. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Diego Moita wrote:
I'm proposing what the Bush administration pretendes to propose: free trade. You depend on our ethanol and agriculture and we depend in your services and industrialized comodoties. Mutual dependency, that's how we (both) build peace and wealth.
Any politician who might propose that would lose every farm state in the country. That would only leave our new hispanic states, so... hmmmm ... I suppose that might work after all. "You get that which you tolerate"
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That would only leave our new hispanic states
All 37 of them?
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Stan Shannon wrote:
That would only leave our new hispanic states
All 37 of them?
I was thinking of the big three - California, Texas and Florida. Any politician who loses all three has little hope of winning a national election. "You get that which you tolerate"