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  • L Lost User

    espeir wrote:

    As predicted by Al Gore?

    No. Eminent scientists from the United States, from UK, from Canada and so on. The TV program I was referring to is entitled "Can We Save Planet Earth?". It was a 2 part documentary transmitted Yesterday and last week, each one hour duration. Presumably you might look out for TV listings in your country. I think you will find it very interesting.

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    Contrary to the claims of the BBC and Time magazine, for every "eminent scientist" that claims global warming is an impending disaster, there's a more reasonable "eminent scientist" (who already has his funding check for something else) who disagrees.

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      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

      In the UK at this moment there is a "knife amnesty" where knife owner can anonymously surrender such weapons.

      Are you being serious?

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      Yes. Deadly serious. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/5036008.stm[^]

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        Yes. Deadly serious. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/5036008.stm[^]

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        How do you cut your steak?

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        • J J Dunlap

          Left Behind: Eternal Forces[^] Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is "to conduct physical and spiritual warfare"; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life. Sickening! X| How can people who claim to be followers of Jesus, and who claim to know their Bibles, promote this kind of cr*p in the name of Christ, the Prince of Peace?? :mad: I know the answer but I am still incredulous, even though I have known for some time that there are 'Christians' who think like that.

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          Stan Shannon
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          Of course, you could wait for some sells figures to arrive before using it as yet another half baked rationale to pretend your anti-christian bigotry has some merit. Besides, this game was probably written by another anti-Christian cretin such as yourself for the express purpose of giving other anti-Chrisitan cretins such as yourself a good reason to spread your sanctimonious, hypocritical outrage around the internet. I would bet that there is not a single authentic religous organization behind it. "You get that which you tolerate"

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          • J J Dunlap

            Left Behind: Eternal Forces[^] Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is "to conduct physical and spiritual warfare"; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life. Sickening! X| How can people who claim to be followers of Jesus, and who claim to know their Bibles, promote this kind of cr*p in the name of Christ, the Prince of Peace?? :mad: I know the answer but I am still incredulous, even though I have known for some time that there are 'Christians' who think like that.

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            led mike
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            The thread is so big I can't find sub thread origins to post on :laugh: [Which religion is more violent - thread] I killed you less so I win! Could someone please create a Web Religious Murders Counter so we can put this question to rest. [Gun control - thread] We need a law requiring everyone to carry a gun. We can even enforce this law on fetuses thereby solving the abortion issue simultaneously.

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              How do you cut your steak?

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              Steak in this country is too damned expensive. Yes cutlery is fine, as is other knifes, including cleavers, used for cooking purposes. But a Bowie Knife, a Flick-knife, ordinary pen-knife, swiss army knife, other "exotic" knifes, and domestic cutlery are not permitted to be carried upon the person going about whatever their "normal" outside-of-their-home activities. If convicted (I think) a 2 to 4 year prison term is awardable.

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              • 7 73Zeppelin

                J. Dunlap wrote:

                Because there is nothing truly compelling left to strive for

                I don't know about that. I find that a rather pessimistic view and I don't just mean that in a religious aspect.

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                thealj wrote:

                I find that a rather pessimistic view and I don't just mean that in a religious aspect.

                People have tired of waiting 2,000 years for Jesus' imminent return. Religion has stagnated and has largely outlived its usefulness, other than providing a basic moral framework which the religious either ignore or twist to suit their own purpose.


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                • L led mike

                  The thread is so big I can't find sub thread origins to post on :laugh: [Which religion is more violent - thread] I killed you less so I win! Could someone please create a Web Religious Murders Counter so we can put this question to rest. [Gun control - thread] We need a law requiring everyone to carry a gun. We can even enforce this law on fetuses thereby solving the abortion issue simultaneously.

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                  led mike wrote:

                  [Which religion is more violent - thread] I killed you less so I win! Could someone please create a Web Religious Murders Counter so we can put this question to rest.

                  We're still working on finding some Christianity-backed killings.

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                    Contrary to the claims of the BBC and Time magazine, for every "eminent scientist" that claims global warming is an impending disaster, there's a more reasonable "eminent scientist" (who already has his funding check for something else) who disagrees.

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                    I hear your observations. Only the future will show the truth.

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                    • D David Wulff

                      espeir wrote:

                      How so? It points out the obvious.

                      The irony in that comment is so beautiful that it is hard to believe espeir wrote it. :laugh:


                      Ðavid Wulff Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (video)
                        "If some individuals commit an act that is contrary to what their religion tells them to do, then the religion isn't violent... the individuals are." - espeir.

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                      Chris Meech
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                      Ding. Ding. Ding. The prize goes to Mr. David Wulff for having successfully gotten espeir confused. It's about time. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] The America I believe in has always understood that natural harmony is only one meal away from monkey burgers. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Bean counters, as the Australian Taxation Office said that prostitutes and strippers could claim tax deductions for adult toys and sexy lingerie. [Associated Press]

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                      • L Lost User

                        Steak in this country is too damned expensive. Yes cutlery is fine, as is other knifes, including cleavers, used for cooking purposes. But a Bowie Knife, a Flick-knife, ordinary pen-knife, swiss army knife, other "exotic" knifes, and domestic cutlery are not permitted to be carried upon the person going about whatever their "normal" outside-of-their-home activities. If convicted (I think) a 2 to 4 year prison term is awardable.

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                        Red Stateler
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                        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                        Steak in this country is too damned expensive.

                        How much for a filet mignon in a restaurant? Here it's usually under $30 US (16 pounds).

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                        swiss army knife

                        You can't carry a swiss army knife? Wow. What if you slip a knife in your pocket and walk over to your friends house to help him unpack boxes? Do you risk 4 years in prison? What if you buy some cutlery and carry it to your car?

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                          led mike wrote:

                          [Which religion is more violent - thread] I killed you less so I win! Could someone please create a Web Religious Murders Counter so we can put this question to rest.

                          We're still working on finding some Christianity-backed killings.

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                          How many years in the past do you consider relevant

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                            How many years in the past do you consider relevant

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                            Red Stateler
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                            There's no specific figure. I don't condemn Muslims for their role in the Crusades, however. I pretty much keep it 20th century and beyond...More specifically the last 40 or so years since they've gotten really bad. You go too much further than that and you're dealing with people who are dead now.

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                              I hear your observations. Only the future will show the truth.

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                              Red Stateler
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                              Yup. I'm hoping lots of people in Miami get scared like you are. Because I'll be there...check in hand.

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                              • R Red Stateler

                                Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                Steak in this country is too damned expensive.

                                How much for a filet mignon in a restaurant? Here it's usually under $30 US (16 pounds).

                                Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                swiss army knife

                                You can't carry a swiss army knife? Wow. What if you slip a knife in your pocket and walk over to your friends house to help him unpack boxes? Do you risk 4 years in prison? What if you buy some cutlery and carry it to your car?

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                                espeir wrote:

                                What if you slip a knife in your pocket and walk over to your friends house to help him unpack boxes? Do you risk 4 years in prison?

                                Technically, yes! If a police officer has reasons to search you and finds that object then you could be arrested.

                                espeir wrote:

                                What if you buy some cutlery and carry it to your car?

                                As long as it is wrapped/boxed and wrapping/box is not in an opened condition and is merely being transported from the shop to your home then that is fine. And camping/caravanning is OK.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Steak in this country is too damned expensive. Yes cutlery is fine, as is other knifes, including cleavers, used for cooking purposes. But a Bowie Knife, a Flick-knife, ordinary pen-knife, swiss army knife, other "exotic" knifes, and domestic cutlery are not permitted to be carried upon the person going about whatever their "normal" outside-of-their-home activities. If convicted (I think) a 2 to 4 year prison term is awardable.

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                                  kgaddy
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                                  What a joke. You can't have a swiss army knife, but you can have a meat cleaver?! What about hatchets? I seem to remember some guy in the UK planting one in someone's skull not too long ago. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                  • J J Dunlap

                                    Left Behind: Eternal Forces[^] Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is "to conduct physical and spiritual warfare"; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life. Sickening! X| How can people who claim to be followers of Jesus, and who claim to know their Bibles, promote this kind of cr*p in the name of Christ, the Prince of Peace?? :mad: I know the answer but I am still incredulous, even though I have known for some time that there are 'Christians' who think like that.

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                                    J. Dunlap wrote:

                                    How can people who claim to be followers of Jesus, and who claim to know their Bibles, promote this kind of cr*p in the name of Christ, the Prince of Peace??

                                    Mr. Warren's church has no connection to this game and right now their communication team is working out the details on what their formal response will be. Until they received an e-mail from a person who had found it, they had no idea about the game. [edit] Rick Warren, Saddleback Church, and Purpose Driven Ministries have no connection to the development of the "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" video game. We have not endorsed it and do not plan to promote it in our networks. Mark Carver's involvement with the development of the game was a personal response to friends who asked for his advice as a businessman. [/edit]


                                    "The largest fire starts but with the smallest spark." - David Crow

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                                    • R Red Stateler

                                      Yup. I'm hoping lots of people in Miami get scared like you are. Because I'll be there...check in hand.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Not scared. Just facing upto what could be a bleak future for my children. And I hope that your cheque is spend wisely.

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                                        What a joke. You can't have a swiss army knife, but you can have a meat cleaver?! What about hatchets? I seem to remember some guy in the UK planting one in someone's skull not too long ago. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                        Lost User
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                                        A meat cleaver is perfectly OK in the kitchen where you are using it in preparation for cooking. NO OFFENSIVE WEAPONS OF ANY DESCRIPTION ARE PERMITTED TO BE CARRIED. Yes there are lots of UK press coverage at the moment due to several recent violent knife deaths.

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                                        • D David Crow

                                          J. Dunlap wrote:

                                          How can people who claim to be followers of Jesus, and who claim to know their Bibles, promote this kind of cr*p in the name of Christ, the Prince of Peace??

                                          Mr. Warren's church has no connection to this game and right now their communication team is working out the details on what their formal response will be. Until they received an e-mail from a person who had found it, they had no idea about the game. [edit] Rick Warren, Saddleback Church, and Purpose Driven Ministries have no connection to the development of the "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" video game. We have not endorsed it and do not plan to promote it in our networks. Mark Carver's involvement with the development of the game was a personal response to friends who asked for his advice as a businessman. [/edit]


                                          "The largest fire starts but with the smallest spark." - David Crow

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                                          Red Stateler
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                                          Interesting. Maybe Stan was right about some bigotted atheist group trying to "frame" Christians (which wouldn't really surprise me). I've heard of people being put on boards of directors without their consent before. My understanding is that you can start a company, mail Bill Gates asking him to be on the advisory board and if he doesn't respond, then you can list him as a member. It's a good way to get funding.

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