The Purpose-Driven Life-Takers
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espeir wrote:
How so? It points out the obvious.
The irony in that comment is so beautiful that it is hard to believe espeir wrote it. :laugh:
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"If some individuals commit an act that is contrary to what their religion tells them to do, then the religion isn't violent... the individuals are." - espeir.I don't get it. Have you just given up your argument? I'm afraid you might want to revisit your childhood textbooks and see what "irony" is because I don't think you really get it.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Hippy weapons include: Massage, meditation, and shrooms, with safe houses at the Esalen Institute[^].
Don't forget smell. Hippies smell really bad. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
Hippies smell really bad.
So that's what the flower holder in the VW Bug is for! Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Let's have some fun with the argumentative technique you so commonly use:
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Wow Christianity Islam must be a violent religion. Some criminals blew up a bomb 8 years ago claiming to be Christians Muslims. I hope the people from the church mosque down the road dont come shoot me for thinking differently than they do. For you to put Christianity Islam on the same level as Islam Christianity because of an isolated incident, when with Islam Christianity it is a widespread, continuing problem is rediculous. I did a google news search for "Iraq roadside bomb" "IRA bombing", and look what it brings up.
IRA bombing[^] :rolleyes:
You keep taking about the IRA bombing and trying to use that one example to make it look like there is an ongoing problem with violence in christianity. Even if there was (which there is not) it would not change the fact that Islam is a violent religion.
thealj wrote:
IRA bombing[^]
September 11th 2001[^] MOΛΩN ΛABE
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J. Dunlap wrote:
to convert or kill Catholics,
:confused: Aren't they Christians too? At a close look, no one is normal.
Caetano VelosoNaw, they're Catholics. :rolleyes:
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J. Dunlap wrote:
Not according to some...
:laugh::laugh: That's a huge surprise to me. I live in a country where 75% of people call themselves Catholic. The tought that they wouldn't be Christians by some obscure theological reason is simply impossible in here. From your answer I googled and found this:http://www.born-again-christian.info/catholics.htm[^]: Roman Catholicism is not Christian, it is a satanically inspired counterfeit of Christianity that has deceived billions into worshipping a false Christ. If you really love Catholics, you will gently show them the Truth so that they can decide who they will believe: the Vatican's Catechism, or the Holy Bible. Here are ten glaring false teachings that the Catholic catechism declares. Each one directly contradicts the Word of God This is freaking unbelievable and very, very funny. At a close look, no one is normal.
Caetano VelosoDiego Moita wrote:
This is freaking unbelievable and very, very funny.
In college I was approached by one of those born again freaks (they all seem to be former drug addicts). He asked me what I thought of evolution. I told him that I think it's a very viable theory that explains the creation of man and beast. He asked me how I can think that when the bible says different. Being Catholic, I responded that the Pope had even recognized evolution as a viable means to creation because what separates man from beast is the soul and the important point is when man acquired a soul. His response: "Stupid Pope and his stupid hat." :laugh:
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Let's have some fun with the argumentative technique you so commonly use:
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Wow Christianity Islam must be a violent religion. Some criminals blew up a bomb 8 years ago claiming to be Christians Muslims. I hope the people from the church mosque down the road dont come shoot me for thinking differently than they do. For you to put Christianity Islam on the same level as Islam Christianity because of an isolated incident, when with Islam Christianity it is a widespread, continuing problem is rediculous. I did a google news search for "Iraq roadside bomb" "IRA bombing", and look what it brings up.
IRA bombing[^] :rolleyes:
You should watch United 93. See how religion is an integral part of their action. Then see how many IRA terrorists were praying that God bless their deed as they detonated a bomb. Then see if the Catholic Church praised IRA terrorists after their deeds.
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thealj wrote:
Yeah, kinda like how America has the lowest (woops) highest rate of gun and violent crime amongst developed countries in the world. But I'm sure it has nothing to do with your gun laws...
No, it has more to do with gangs and illegal mexican immigrants, which buy their guns off the black market anyway. MOΛΩN ΛABE
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
No, it has more to do with gangs and illegal mexican immigrants, which buy their guns off the black market anyway
But how is that possible when they make up only 12% (your figure) of your population. Don't those figures strike you as odd? So, 12% of your population is responsible for all the chaos in America? It has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to simply go buy a gun. That's the answer then? So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then? How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
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kgaddy wrote:
Hippies smell really bad.
So that's what the flower holder in the VW Bug is for! Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
I went to Asheville, NC (a hippy haven) a few weeks ago. A hippy walked into this jewelry store we were in and paid off his Rolex. He said his mom had bought it for him, but was making payments in her name so that it was still hers. So don't forget that they're spoiled rich kids, too!
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You keep taking about the IRA bombing and trying to use that one example to make it look like there is an ongoing problem with violence in christianity. Even if there was (which there is not) it would not change the fact that Islam is a violent religion.
thealj wrote:
IRA bombing[^]
September 11th 2001[^] MOΛΩN ΛABE
Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember? And by your own words, you wrote: For you to put Christianity on the same level as Islam because of an isolated incident, when with Islam it is a widespread, continuing problem is rediculous. That's your quote! You keep taking about the IRA Sept. 11th bombing and trying to use that one example to make it look like there is an ongoing problem with violence in christianity Islam.
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
No, it has more to do with gangs and illegal mexican immigrants, which buy their guns off the black market anyway
But how is that possible when they make up only 12% (your figure) of your population. Don't those figures strike you as odd? So, 12% of your population is responsible for all the chaos in America? It has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to simply go buy a gun. That's the answer then? So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then? How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
Actually if you look at the statistics based on region, the highest correlations are between crime and average state temperature (and also proximity to urban areas). The warmer you get, the more crime. I'm guessing it's because people actually go outside. Canada is cold.
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Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember? And by your own words, you wrote: For you to put Christianity on the same level as Islam because of an isolated incident, when with Islam it is a widespread, continuing problem is rediculous. That's your quote! You keep taking about the IRA Sept. 11th bombing and trying to use that one example to make it look like there is an ongoing problem with violence in christianity Islam.
Really, what about the bombings in Spain, the UK and the Philippines?
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Left Behind: Eternal Forces[^] Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is "to conduct physical and spiritual warfare"; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life. Sickening! X| How can people who claim to be followers of Jesus, and who claim to know their Bibles, promote this kind of cr*p in the name of Christ, the Prince of Peace?? :mad: I know the answer but I am still incredulous, even though I have known for some time that there are 'Christians' who think like that.
The more devout you are, the crazier you get. That reminds me, I need to stock up on ammo rent part two of Left Behind. I saw the first one with Kirk Cameron and his hot wife Chelsea Noble. Although it had no effect on me, I am still curious to know what they did in part two. :)
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Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember? And by your own words, you wrote: For you to put Christianity on the same level as Islam because of an isolated incident, when with Islam it is a widespread, continuing problem is rediculous. That's your quote! You keep taking about the IRA Sept. 11th bombing and trying to use that one example to make it look like there is an ongoing problem with violence in christianity Islam.
thealj wrote:
Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember?
But ever since then there have been lots of other incidents of muslims being violent. Look at Darfur, sudan, or all the bombings in Iraq. How many incidents of Christians being violent in the last few years can you remember? MOΛΩN ΛABE
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Really, what about the bombings in Spain, the UK and the Philippines?
No, islam cant be violent, because of the IRA bombing! Christians are the ones being violent. :rolleyes: MOΛΩN ΛABE
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thealj wrote:
Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember?
But ever since then there have been lots of other incidents of muslims being violent. Look at Darfur, sudan, or all the bombings in Iraq. How many incidents of Christians being violent in the last few years can you remember? MOΛΩN ΛABE
I think you have to differentiate between Christiand being violent and Christians being violent because their religion/religious leaders told them to.
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
when the cities with guns banned (like washington DC) have the highest gun crime rates in the nation
Could it be that criminals know that the citizens are unarmed in these cities banning guns?
Great lifesaver. It looks like you've even caught a pumpkin with it. Now reel 'em in. :doh: Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] The America I believe in has always understood that natural harmony is only one meal away from monkey burgers. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Bean counters, as the Australian Taxation Office said that prostitutes and strippers could claim tax deductions for adult toys and sexy lingerie. [Associated Press]
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Really, what about the bombings in Spain, the UK and the Philippines?
Really? What about the Bible Wars, Jonesboro and Paducah, Eric Rudolph, the Rawanda massacre, the killings comitted by Christian Serbs in Bosnia?
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thealj wrote:
Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember?
But ever since then there have been lots of other incidents of muslims being violent. Look at Darfur, sudan, or all the bombings in Iraq. How many incidents of Christians being violent in the last few years can you remember? MOΛΩN ΛABE
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
But ever since then there have been lots of other incidents of muslims being violent. Look at Darfur, sudan, or all the bombings in Iraq. How many incidents of Christians being violent in the last few years can you remember?
Bible Wars, Jonesboro and Paducah, Eric Rudolph, the Rawanda massacre, the killings comitted by Christian Serbs in Bosnia. Oh, I'm sure there's more, I just can't be bothered to do your research for you.
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
No, it has more to do with gangs and illegal mexican immigrants, which buy their guns off the black market anyway
But how is that possible when they make up only 12% (your figure) of your population. Don't those figures strike you as odd? So, 12% of your population is responsible for all the chaos in America? It has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to simply go buy a gun. That's the answer then? So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then? How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
thealj wrote:
all the chaos in America?
:laugh: I live in a neighborhood where some neighbors own guns and there is no "Chaos". I even own a SKS rifle, and it hasnt driven me to kill anyone. Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
thealj wrote:
So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then?
I was referring to gangs, not 'families who work to support themselves'.
thealj wrote:
How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
You can go buy guns in Canada, they just have to be registered. MOΛΩN ΛABE
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Really? What about the Bible Wars, Jonesboro and Paducah, Eric Rudolph, the Rawanda massacre, the killings comitted by Christian Serbs in Bosnia?
So by your logic does it somehow make islam a peaceful religion if there are incidents where christians have commited crimes? MOΛΩN ΛABE