The Purpose-Driven Life-Takers
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Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember? And by your own words, you wrote: For you to put Christianity on the same level as Islam because of an isolated incident, when with Islam it is a widespread, continuing problem is rediculous. That's your quote! You keep taking about the IRA Sept. 11th bombing and trying to use that one example to make it look like there is an ongoing problem with violence in christianity Islam.
Really, what about the bombings in Spain, the UK and the Philippines?
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Left Behind: Eternal Forces[^] Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is "to conduct physical and spiritual warfare"; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life. Sickening! X| How can people who claim to be followers of Jesus, and who claim to know their Bibles, promote this kind of cr*p in the name of Christ, the Prince of Peace?? :mad: I know the answer but I am still incredulous, even though I have known for some time that there are 'Christians' who think like that.
The more devout you are, the crazier you get. That reminds me, I need to stock up on ammo rent part two of Left Behind. I saw the first one with Kirk Cameron and his hot wife Chelsea Noble. Although it had no effect on me, I am still curious to know what they did in part two. :)
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Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember? And by your own words, you wrote: For you to put Christianity on the same level as Islam because of an isolated incident, when with Islam it is a widespread, continuing problem is rediculous. That's your quote! You keep taking about the IRA Sept. 11th bombing and trying to use that one example to make it look like there is an ongoing problem with violence in christianity Islam.
thealj wrote:
Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember?
But ever since then there have been lots of other incidents of muslims being violent. Look at Darfur, sudan, or all the bombings in Iraq. How many incidents of Christians being violent in the last few years can you remember? MOΛΩN ΛABE
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thealj wrote:
Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember?
But ever since then there have been lots of other incidents of muslims being violent. Look at Darfur, sudan, or all the bombings in Iraq. How many incidents of Christians being violent in the last few years can you remember? MOΛΩN ΛABE
I think you have to differentiate between Christiand being violent and Christians being violent because their religion/religious leaders told them to.
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Really, what about the bombings in Spain, the UK and the Philippines?
No, islam cant be violent, because of the IRA bombing! Christians are the ones being violent. :rolleyes: MOΛΩN ΛABE
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
when the cities with guns banned (like washington DC) have the highest gun crime rates in the nation
Could it be that criminals know that the citizens are unarmed in these cities banning guns?
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Really, what about the bombings in Spain, the UK and the Philippines?
Really? What about the Bible Wars, Jonesboro and Paducah, Eric Rudolph, the Rawanda massacre, the killings comitted by Christian Serbs in Bosnia?
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thealj wrote:
Ah, but Sept. 11th was an isolated incident, remember?
But ever since then there have been lots of other incidents of muslims being violent. Look at Darfur, sudan, or all the bombings in Iraq. How many incidents of Christians being violent in the last few years can you remember? MOΛΩN ΛABE
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
But ever since then there have been lots of other incidents of muslims being violent. Look at Darfur, sudan, or all the bombings in Iraq. How many incidents of Christians being violent in the last few years can you remember?
Bible Wars, Jonesboro and Paducah, Eric Rudolph, the Rawanda massacre, the killings comitted by Christian Serbs in Bosnia. Oh, I'm sure there's more, I just can't be bothered to do your research for you.
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
No, it has more to do with gangs and illegal mexican immigrants, which buy their guns off the black market anyway
But how is that possible when they make up only 12% (your figure) of your population. Don't those figures strike you as odd? So, 12% of your population is responsible for all the chaos in America? It has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to simply go buy a gun. That's the answer then? So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then? How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
thealj wrote:
all the chaos in America?
:laugh: I live in a neighborhood where some neighbors own guns and there is no "Chaos". I even own a SKS rifle, and it hasnt driven me to kill anyone. Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
thealj wrote:
So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then?
I was referring to gangs, not 'families who work to support themselves'.
thealj wrote:
How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
You can go buy guns in Canada, they just have to be registered. MOΛΩN ΛABE
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Really? What about the Bible Wars, Jonesboro and Paducah, Eric Rudolph, the Rawanda massacre, the killings comitted by Christian Serbs in Bosnia?
So by your logic does it somehow make islam a peaceful religion if there are incidents where christians have commited crimes? MOΛΩN ΛABE
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:rolleyes: Im always amazed at how arrogant europeans can be, and how much they think they know about America, to think that the reason so many blaks are in jail is the whites fault. MOΛΩN ΛABE
Lol, I'm not European! :laugh:
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thealj wrote:
all the chaos in America?
:laugh: I live in a neighborhood where some neighbors own guns and there is no "Chaos". I even own a SKS rifle, and it hasnt driven me to kill anyone. Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
thealj wrote:
So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then?
I was referring to gangs, not 'families who work to support themselves'.
thealj wrote:
How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
You can go buy guns in Canada, they just have to be registered. MOΛΩN ΛABE
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Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
I've lived in more places than you probably ever will and that includes the U.S., so don't tell me I don't know about American law or society because I do. I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present. The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
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Really? What about the Bible Wars, Jonesboro and Paducah, Eric Rudolph, the Rawanda massacre, the killings comitted by Christian Serbs in Bosnia?
thealj wrote:
Bible Wars
I had to google this. Apparently Catholics and Protestants were arguing over schooling and nobody was killed? Great example.
thealj wrote:
Jonesboro and Paducah
What are you talking about? link[^]. The shooters weren't even Christian. They were probably atheists (as most these kids are). The only Christian was the son of a pastor who approached the killer and asked him to stop. Oh, the Christian violence!!!
thealj wrote:
Eric Rudolph
He acted on his own and was condemned by both Catholics and Protestants alike.
thealj wrote:
Rawanda massacre
That was a civil war.
thealj wrote:
Christian Serbs
I don't know how widespread that was. Perhaps they learned from their atheist rulers?
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
I've lived in more places than you probably ever will and that includes the U.S., so don't tell me I don't know about American law or society because I do. I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present. The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
thealj wrote:
I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present.
Uh...That's a lie. I lived in Arizona for 8 years. You just completely made that up. I didn't know a single girl who even owned a gun.
thealj wrote:
The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
That's because we don't die the second we step out of our igloos.
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
I've lived in more places than you probably ever will and that includes the U.S., so don't tell me I don't know about American law or society because I do. I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present. The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
thealj wrote:
The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime.
True, but disarming law abiding citizens is not the answer. It would create more problems. The Revolutionary War began with resistance to gun confiscations (sp?). MOΛΩN ΛABE
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thealj wrote:
I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present.
Uh...That's a lie. I lived in Arizona for 8 years. You just completely made that up. I didn't know a single girl who even owned a gun.
thealj wrote:
The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
That's because we don't die the second we step out of our igloos.
espeir wrote:
Uh...That's a lie. I lived in Arizona for 8 years. You just completely made that up. I didn't know a single girl who even owned a gun.
No, actually I didn't make that up. It's true. I lived in Pheonix for 3 years and it was standard practice for fathers to present their daughters with a gun when they turned 18. I knew 6 families that did that.
espeir wrote:
That's because we don't die the second we step out of our igloos.
You could be on to something here...
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thealj wrote:
The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime.
True, but disarming law abiding citizens is not the answer. It would create more problems. The Revolutionary War began with resistance to gun confiscations (sp?). MOΛΩN ΛABE
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
True, but disarming law abiding citizens is not the answer. It would create more problems. The Revolutionary War began with resistance to gun confiscations (sp?).
To be honest, I don't know what the solution is. As long as there are guns (regulated or not) you're going to have gun crime. Regulation, de-regulation, whatever. I think the problem is larger than that.
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espeir wrote:
Uh...That's a lie. I lived in Arizona for 8 years. You just completely made that up. I didn't know a single girl who even owned a gun.
No, actually I didn't make that up. It's true. I lived in Pheonix for 3 years and it was standard practice for fathers to present their daughters with a gun when they turned 18. I knew 6 families that did that.
espeir wrote:
That's because we don't die the second we step out of our igloos.
You could be on to something here...
thealj wrote:
No, actually I didn't make that up. It's true. I lived in Pheonix for 3 years and it was standard practice for fathers to present their daughters with a gun when they turned 18. I knew 6 families that did that.
Sorry, but that's BS. I lived in Tucson for 8 years, went to college from people all around Arizona (including Scottsdale, Mesa, Flagstaff and Phoenix) and none of them even owned a gun. There is certainly not "standard practice". My sister who lives in Tucson does not own a gun. Not one of her friends owns a gun. You are either lying or lived in the ghetto.
thealj wrote:
You could be on to something here...
Seriously. Look up the correlation. It's pretty strong.
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
True, but disarming law abiding citizens is not the answer. It would create more problems. The Revolutionary War began with resistance to gun confiscations (sp?).
To be honest, I don't know what the solution is. As long as there are guns (regulated or not) you're going to have gun crime. Regulation, de-regulation, whatever. I think the problem is larger than that.
We should take away knives to prevent knife crime, too.
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
No, it has more to do with gangs and illegal mexican immigrants, which buy their guns off the black market anyway
But how is that possible when they make up only 12% (your figure) of your population. Don't those figures strike you as odd? So, 12% of your population is responsible for all the chaos in America? It has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to simply go buy a gun. That's the answer then? So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then? How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
thealj wrote:
So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then?
:laugh: