The Purpose-Driven Life-Takers
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:rolleyes: Im always amazed at how arrogant europeans can be, and how much they think they know about America, to think that the reason so many blaks are in jail is the whites fault. MOΛΩN ΛABE
Lol, I'm not European! :laugh:
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thealj wrote:
all the chaos in America?
:laugh: I live in a neighborhood where some neighbors own guns and there is no "Chaos". I even own a SKS rifle, and it hasnt driven me to kill anyone. Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
thealj wrote:
So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then?
I was referring to gangs, not 'families who work to support themselves'.
thealj wrote:
How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
You can go buy guns in Canada, they just have to be registered. MOΛΩN ΛABE
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Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
I've lived in more places than you probably ever will and that includes the U.S., so don't tell me I don't know about American law or society because I do. I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present. The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
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Really? What about the Bible Wars, Jonesboro and Paducah, Eric Rudolph, the Rawanda massacre, the killings comitted by Christian Serbs in Bosnia?
thealj wrote:
Bible Wars
I had to google this. Apparently Catholics and Protestants were arguing over schooling and nobody was killed? Great example.
thealj wrote:
Jonesboro and Paducah
What are you talking about? link[^]. The shooters weren't even Christian. They were probably atheists (as most these kids are). The only Christian was the son of a pastor who approached the killer and asked him to stop. Oh, the Christian violence!!!
thealj wrote:
Eric Rudolph
He acted on his own and was condemned by both Catholics and Protestants alike.
thealj wrote:
Rawanda massacre
That was a civil war.
thealj wrote:
Christian Serbs
I don't know how widespread that was. Perhaps they learned from their atheist rulers?
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
I've lived in more places than you probably ever will and that includes the U.S., so don't tell me I don't know about American law or society because I do. I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present. The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
thealj wrote:
I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present.
Uh...That's a lie. I lived in Arizona for 8 years. You just completely made that up. I didn't know a single girl who even owned a gun.
thealj wrote:
The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
That's because we don't die the second we step out of our igloos.
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Seriously, it is stupid to make statements like that if you havent lived here. You have no idea how it really is. All you see is what the media reports, which is ususlly negative.
I've lived in more places than you probably ever will and that includes the U.S., so don't tell me I don't know about American law or society because I do. I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present. The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
thealj wrote:
The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime.
True, but disarming law abiding citizens is not the answer. It would create more problems. The Revolutionary War began with resistance to gun confiscations (sp?). MOΛΩN ΛABE
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thealj wrote:
I also know (having lived there and many other states) that in Arizona, at 18 years old, girls receive guns as a standard birthday present.
Uh...That's a lie. I lived in Arizona for 8 years. You just completely made that up. I didn't know a single girl who even owned a gun.
thealj wrote:
The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime. You can pretend it's not there all you want, but I've lived there and I know what goes on and that's not just from the media either.
That's because we don't die the second we step out of our igloos.
espeir wrote:
Uh...That's a lie. I lived in Arizona for 8 years. You just completely made that up. I didn't know a single girl who even owned a gun.
No, actually I didn't make that up. It's true. I lived in Pheonix for 3 years and it was standard practice for fathers to present their daughters with a gun when they turned 18. I knew 6 families that did that.
espeir wrote:
That's because we don't die the second we step out of our igloos.
You could be on to something here...
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thealj wrote:
The U.S. has a very large problem with violent crime.
True, but disarming law abiding citizens is not the answer. It would create more problems. The Revolutionary War began with resistance to gun confiscations (sp?). MOΛΩN ΛABE
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True, but disarming law abiding citizens is not the answer. It would create more problems. The Revolutionary War began with resistance to gun confiscations (sp?).
To be honest, I don't know what the solution is. As long as there are guns (regulated or not) you're going to have gun crime. Regulation, de-regulation, whatever. I think the problem is larger than that.
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espeir wrote:
Uh...That's a lie. I lived in Arizona for 8 years. You just completely made that up. I didn't know a single girl who even owned a gun.
No, actually I didn't make that up. It's true. I lived in Pheonix for 3 years and it was standard practice for fathers to present their daughters with a gun when they turned 18. I knew 6 families that did that.
espeir wrote:
That's because we don't die the second we step out of our igloos.
You could be on to something here...
thealj wrote:
No, actually I didn't make that up. It's true. I lived in Pheonix for 3 years and it was standard practice for fathers to present their daughters with a gun when they turned 18. I knew 6 families that did that.
Sorry, but that's BS. I lived in Tucson for 8 years, went to college from people all around Arizona (including Scottsdale, Mesa, Flagstaff and Phoenix) and none of them even owned a gun. There is certainly not "standard practice". My sister who lives in Tucson does not own a gun. Not one of her friends owns a gun. You are either lying or lived in the ghetto.
thealj wrote:
You could be on to something here...
Seriously. Look up the correlation. It's pretty strong.
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
True, but disarming law abiding citizens is not the answer. It would create more problems. The Revolutionary War began with resistance to gun confiscations (sp?).
To be honest, I don't know what the solution is. As long as there are guns (regulated or not) you're going to have gun crime. Regulation, de-regulation, whatever. I think the problem is larger than that.
We should take away knives to prevent knife crime, too.
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No, it has more to do with gangs and illegal mexican immigrants, which buy their guns off the black market anyway
But how is that possible when they make up only 12% (your figure) of your population. Don't those figures strike you as odd? So, 12% of your population is responsible for all the chaos in America? It has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to simply go buy a gun. That's the answer then? So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then? How can you explain the difference between gun crime in Canada (with gun control) and gun crime in the U.S. (no gun control)? We have lots of illegal immigrants too. Surely if it was them then both countries would have soaring rates of gun crime, no? What about that situation? How can you explain that?
thealj wrote:
So, illegal Mexican immigrants who work to support themselves illegally by earning less than minimum wage and send most of the money back to their families in their home countries have pockets bursting with spare cash to buy illegal arms on the black market then?
:laugh:
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We should take away knives to prevent knife crime, too.
They are actually trying that in England. MOΛΩN ΛABE
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They are actually trying that in England. MOΛΩN ΛABE
But have they considered spork crime?
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Interesting how people like you are so quick to criticize all christians because of a violent video game, but will not criticize Islam after its followers kill people daily in the name of their religion. When is the last time you can remember that christians killed a group of people with a roadside bomb, or flew airplanes into a building killing thousands of people? MOΛΩN ΛABE
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when the cities with guns banned (like washington DC) have the highest gun crime rates in the nation
Could it be that criminals know that the citizens are unarmed in these cities banning guns?
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I'm actually thinking I might buy some beachfront property in Florida in about 9 years. The National Weather Service is predicting about 10 years of violent hurricanes (no...there's no relation to global warming). By then everything will be so battered that property values might be low. They'll skyrocket after a couple years of no hurricane weather!
A very recent BBC TV Documentary (in association with the Discovery Channel) suggests that if the global warming turns out to be as bad as predicted, Miami would be a city 50 miles from land, and that the Florida Everglades would disappear. Your beachfront property could be some place that is currently 50 miles inland. ;P
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A very recent BBC TV Documentary (in association with the Discovery Channel) suggests that if the global warming turns out to be as bad as predicted, Miami would be a city 50 miles from land, and that the Florida Everglades would disappear. Your beachfront property could be some place that is currently 50 miles inland. ;P
As predicted by Al Gore? I'm willing to bet a few hundred thousand against those crackpots.
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We should take away knives to prevent knife crime, too.
In the UK at this moment there is a "knife amnesty" where knife owner can anonymously surrender such weapons. Even though this is in progress there is well reported knife crime (deaths etc) occuring in the UK. So removing knives and guns is an admirable policy, in practice, it is just the tip of an iceberg and is doomed to failure as those who commit such crimes are not going to surrender their weaponry.
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In the UK at this moment there is a "knife amnesty" where knife owner can anonymously surrender such weapons. Even though this is in progress there is well reported knife crime (deaths etc) occuring in the UK. So removing knives and guns is an admirable policy, in practice, it is just the tip of an iceberg and is doomed to failure as those who commit such crimes are not going to surrender their weaponry.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
In the UK at this moment there is a "knife amnesty" where knife owner can anonymously surrender such weapons.
Are you being serious?
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As predicted by Al Gore? I'm willing to bet a few hundred thousand against those crackpots.
espeir wrote:
As predicted by Al Gore?
No. Eminent scientists from the United States, from UK, from Canada and so on. The TV program I was referring to is entitled "Can We Save Planet Earth?". It was a 2 part documentary transmitted Yesterday and last week, each one hour duration. Presumably you might look out for TV listings in your country. I think you will find it very interesting.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
In the UK at this moment there is a "knife amnesty" where knife owner can anonymously surrender such weapons.
Are you being serious?