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    Ray Cassick
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    Can anyone comment on the legality and compliance of the following scenario? I am interested in selling some hardware as part of a new VoIP project IO am working on. I have in mind using some hardware that is actually manufactured by another company but they do not sell it in the form factor that I want. Their stuff is a desktop stackible box and I want it to be rack mountable. I am considering gutting their box and remounting the hardware in a 19" rack mount chassis the re-branding the whole thing with my company name and logo. Questions/comments (some thinking out loud here). 1) Is this legal? I mean form a patent standpoint? The original hardware really has no company markings on it making it simple to just re brand it anyway. I will be buying it so I don't really see any difference that might make it wrong. Not really sure what the impact of buying and reselling vs. buying repackaging and reselling. I COULD simply mount the entire thing into a 2U case instead of gutting it and using a 1U case but that is wasteful. 2) I figure that I would have to get the assembly re certified for things like FCC and CE (ESD and emissions type stuff) right? 3) I also figure that by doing this I have forfeited the original equipment warranty so I will have to take that responsibility on myself. 4) I figure that I would set up an account with a recycler to take care of the original plastic and metal chassis parts. 5) Does anyone think there is a chance that the company would consider selling me the guts (sans the case) for maybe a lesser cost? Never considered that really. Hmmm


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      Can anyone comment on the legality and compliance of the following scenario? I am interested in selling some hardware as part of a new VoIP project IO am working on. I have in mind using some hardware that is actually manufactured by another company but they do not sell it in the form factor that I want. Their stuff is a desktop stackible box and I want it to be rack mountable. I am considering gutting their box and remounting the hardware in a 19" rack mount chassis the re-branding the whole thing with my company name and logo. Questions/comments (some thinking out loud here). 1) Is this legal? I mean form a patent standpoint? The original hardware really has no company markings on it making it simple to just re brand it anyway. I will be buying it so I don't really see any difference that might make it wrong. Not really sure what the impact of buying and reselling vs. buying repackaging and reselling. I COULD simply mount the entire thing into a 2U case instead of gutting it and using a 1U case but that is wasteful. 2) I figure that I would have to get the assembly re certified for things like FCC and CE (ESD and emissions type stuff) right? 3) I also figure that by doing this I have forfeited the original equipment warranty so I will have to take that responsibility on myself. 4) I figure that I would set up an account with a recycler to take care of the original plastic and metal chassis parts. 5) Does anyone think there is a chance that the company would consider selling me the guts (sans the case) for maybe a lesser cost? Never considered that really. Hmmm


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      Sebastian Schneider
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      1. Depends on the law you are subject to. Basically, why don't you ask the original manufacturer? 2) Yes. I do not no for sure about the FCC-cert, but for the CE-cert, yes. 3) Yes, because you have your logo on it - and you are responsible for the "ESD/emissions type stuff" now. 4) Good idea. But you could always let it pile up in the corner of your workshop and then accidentally set your whole business on fire... 5) Possible. After all, if they sell to you or someone else does not really matter. Plus they do not have to care about the warranty for the machines you bought. And they still are gonna have almost the same profit margin. Ask em, nicely, and good luck :) Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
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        Can anyone comment on the legality and compliance of the following scenario? I am interested in selling some hardware as part of a new VoIP project IO am working on. I have in mind using some hardware that is actually manufactured by another company but they do not sell it in the form factor that I want. Their stuff is a desktop stackible box and I want it to be rack mountable. I am considering gutting their box and remounting the hardware in a 19" rack mount chassis the re-branding the whole thing with my company name and logo. Questions/comments (some thinking out loud here). 1) Is this legal? I mean form a patent standpoint? The original hardware really has no company markings on it making it simple to just re brand it anyway. I will be buying it so I don't really see any difference that might make it wrong. Not really sure what the impact of buying and reselling vs. buying repackaging and reselling. I COULD simply mount the entire thing into a 2U case instead of gutting it and using a 1U case but that is wasteful. 2) I figure that I would have to get the assembly re certified for things like FCC and CE (ESD and emissions type stuff) right? 3) I also figure that by doing this I have forfeited the original equipment warranty so I will have to take that responsibility on myself. 4) I figure that I would set up an account with a recycler to take care of the original plastic and metal chassis parts. 5) Does anyone think there is a chance that the company would consider selling me the guts (sans the case) for maybe a lesser cost? Never considered that really. Hmmm


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        If you plan on selling a number of units it would be advantages to contact the original manufacture for a volume discount. While you have their ear, ask about buying just the equipment you need, Right now your paying for hardware you flat out don’t need or want. If they scoff at all, it might be wise to consider another source, there are plenty of manufactures out there and most are concerned with selling their goods, not what you do with them.


        I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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