Netscape....Where do I begin...?
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Rendering HTML equivalent isn't enough - we need a consistent DOM, CSS1/2 and DHTML support. Then I'll be happy. cheers, Chris Maunder
While were at it I'll take a Pepperoni Pizza too. :laugh: Nick Parker
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Rendering HTML equivalent isn't enough - we need a consistent DOM, CSS1/2 and DHTML support. Then I'll be happy. cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: Rendering HTML equivalent isn't enough - we need a consistent DOM, CSS1/2 and DHTML support. Oh definitley. Sorry, I just automatically encapsulated all the DOM and CSS stuff into HTML rendering. What I want to see is some core web engine which all browsers use. It renders the HTML, does CSS properly and provides a logical and standards based DOM interface. Then, all the different browsers use it but have their own shell around it. Of course people like MS are not likely to use a browser engine developed open source (like Mozilla) and the Mozilla people naturally won't use a browse engine developed closed source by MS. So they need to build their engines "together" making sure that both meet all the standards and don't implement proprietary stuff. If they have a disagreement on what a certain standard written by the W3C actually means then they need to ask the W3C, not assume what they want and implement it like they do now (e.g. the Box Flow model.) Bottom line is that I want an HTML page I pass to any browser to work without having to have tailored versions for each browser. It is good for everyone in the long run. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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Nick Parker wrote: This is really great, LOL, I thought I was being a raving lunatic :-D Nick Parker wrote: What are they doing when they release new versions of their browser? Are they just fixing errors from before? Well Netscape 4 and all it's sub-versions were initially a cock-up and then a running-battle cock-up. We all gave up on v4.75. Then Netscape 5 was announced and we all groaned. That got scraped and eventually they realeased v6 which was this whole Mozilla touted thing. Unfortuantley v6 did rendering well, good standards support etc., but the surrounding application, based on all this XUL crap, was a nightmare, crashed faster than you can say "IE works". They then release v6.1 and 6.2 which are now actually rather good. IF you give IE 6.0 a HTML doc it renders it almost exactly the same as Netscape 6.2. That is such a cool thing to see. My whole point is this: I would love for there to be five thousand browsers out there. As long as each and every one of them stuck to the W3C standards and rendered the same HTML the same way. I don't like IE because it is MS or it came with my OS, I like it because it renders HTML as you expect it to be rendered, i.e. via the standards. So bring on Opera, Netscape 6.2, IE 7, Konqueror etc. Just as long as they all treat HTML the same way. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
Better still - dump Netscape 6.x and use Mozilla instead. Netscape 6 is always about 6 months behind Mozilla, for no obvious reason (it's not as if they add major amounts of extra stuff) I've been using Mozilla as my main browser for over 18 months now, and find it can render 99.9% of all sites perfectly, and crashes much less than IE does (when I'm forced to use it to view pages that refuse to let Moz view them, or when viewing the company intranet) - in fact I can't remember when I last had Moz crash on me! -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Better still - dump Netscape 6.x and use Mozilla instead. Netscape 6 is always about 6 months behind Mozilla, for no obvious reason (it's not as if they add major amounts of extra stuff) I've been using Mozilla as my main browser for over 18 months now, and find it can render 99.9% of all sites perfectly, and crashes much less than IE does (when I'm forced to use it to view pages that refuse to let Moz view them, or when viewing the company intranet) - in fact I can't remember when I last had Moz crash on me! -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
"Netscape 6 is always about 6 months behind Mozilla, for no obvious reason (it's not as if they add major amounts of extra stuff) " One obvious reason is open source. The only people that ,for the most part, students or inexperienced programmers who can't find paying work.