Cut out the propaganda
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When is saig "agree" this is what I was agreeing to "put an end to its constant barrage of mini-strifes" preferably by peaceful means, but by war if need be, but without interference (nor support (militarily or intelligence or finance etc)) from any external country (such as USA, UK, Russia, France, Germany etc). Any interference I suspect would inflame the situation even more. How that would resolve remains to be seen.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
we'd all be forced to find an alternative fuel
You might have to do that sooner rather than later if the doom-merchants of global warming are right, anyhow, isn't oil supposed to run out in the not too distant future?
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
isn't oil supposed to run out in the not too distant future?
Run out of what? I personally wish they'd find a viable alternative. $110 per week for gas (two vehicles) is too goddamn much money.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Vincent Reynolds wrote:
Right. Do you understand that this would put us at war with the rest of the world?
Yeah, right after they thank us for vaporizing 99.9% of the world's troublemakers...
Do you know how nervous a first strike on any country would make Russia and China, both with nukes and the missiles to deliver them?
I say lets those pinko commie fags slap their dicks on the table and we'll all sit around comparing sizes.
Do you think the leader who gives that order will go down in history as the person who brought peace to the Middle East, or the greatest mass murderer the world has ever known?
I don't think Bush cares. he'll have another chance to say "nuc-u-lar" a whole bunch of times.
Have you considered how global weather patterns would disperse the fallout?
Nope. I'm a programmer, not a weatherman.
Any ideas how neighboring, non-Islamic countries might feel about a significant number of nukes detonated next door?
Nope, but I'd be willing to bet they'd be on their best behaior 'cause we got lots more where the first one came from.
Have you considered that we would then have to deal with hundreds of millions of now entirely justifiably pissed-off Muslims who are not currently living in the Middle East?
What is this "middle east" you're talking about? After turning it into a barren nucular wasteland, I'd hesitate to give it a name that didn't start with "Ohhh, Shiney".
Are you ready to be drafted and spend the rest of your life in the military, either securing the oil fields, or guarding our borders?
I'm too old to be drafted, and bsides, I've already spent time in the military - long before you were even born.
Just off the top of my head, I can think of about a dozen more reasons why your "plan" royally sucks.
But you're to fuckin' lazy to list them, unless oif course that was a rhetorical statement.
Hope you design code better than you design peace.
I hope you're not a retard like this all the time...
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I'm too old to be drafted, and bsides, I've already spent time in the military - long before you were even born.
Sorry, I don't believe in that "past life" new age crap.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I hope you're not a retard like this all the time...
You should consider changing your name to Richard. It would be funny in some small way to see your redneck trolling attributed to Richard Simmons (related?), and it would give people yet another reason to call you Dick.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I'm too old to be drafted, and bsides, I've already spent time in the military - long before you were even born.
Sorry, I don't believe in that "past life" new age crap.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I hope you're not a retard like this all the time...
You should consider changing your name to Richard. It would be funny in some small way to see your redneck trolling attributed to Richard Simmons (related?), and it would give people yet another reason to call you Dick.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
You should consider changing your name to Richard. It would be funny in some small way to see your redneck trolling attributed to Richard Simmons (related?), and it would give people yet another reason to call you Dick.
What are you, 12 years old?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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If you're going to participate, you need to come up with longer responses. Right now, you're just fishing for something at witch to lash out.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
You should consider changing your name to Richard. It would be funny in some small way to see your redneck trolling attributed to Richard Simmons (related?), and it would give people yet another reason to call you Dick.
What are you, 12 years old?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I hope you're not a retard like this all the time...
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
What are you, 12 years old?
Just trying to relate on your own level, Dick.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
isn't oil supposed to run out in the not too distant future?
Run out of what? I personally wish they'd find a viable alternative. $110 per week for gas (two vehicles) is too goddamn much money.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Run out of what
OIL, what did you think I was referring to ?
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
$110 per week for gas
Means nothing unless you quantify that in terms of (1) Car Make/Model/Engine size in terms of Miles per Gallon (or Litres per Kilometer), (2) Price per Gallon (or price per Litre), and (3) your driving habits. But then, prices in USA are cheap compared to UK.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Run out of what
OIL, what did you think I was referring to ?
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
$110 per week for gas
Means nothing unless you quantify that in terms of (1) Car Make/Model/Engine size in terms of Miles per Gallon (or Litres per Kilometer), (2) Price per Gallon (or price per Litre), and (3) your driving habits. But then, prices in USA are cheap compared to UK.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Means nothing unless you quantify that in terms of (1) Car Make/Model/Engine size in terms of Miles per Gallon (or Litres per Kilometer), (2) Price per Gallon (or price per Litre), and (3) your driving habits.
We *were* spending about $60/week for the same vehicles (even that was too much). How's that for quantification?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Means nothing unless you quantify that in terms of (1) Car Make/Model/Engine size in terms of Miles per Gallon (or Litres per Kilometer), (2) Price per Gallon (or price per Litre), and (3) your driving habits.
We *were* spending about $60/week for the same vehicles (even that was too much). How's that for quantification?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Expect to pay very much more stupidly expensive prices if "middle east into a glass parking lot" to quote John Simmons, happens.
If the middle east gets much worse, I think the price of oil is going to be the least of our worries. I suspect Israel will simply get tired of the whole thing, and then start lobbing nukes around.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
<Being deliberately contentious> Reagon outspends Soviet Union on Military, almost causing USA bankruptcy giving rise to HUGE reductions in Federal spending elsewhere, USA citizens still paying price of that "investment".
espeir wrote:
put up the dough for a decent military
So you want more of the same.
espeir wrote:
makes oil more expensive
Oil more expensive means higher prices at factory gate means higher prices cumsumers to pay which will result in hyper-inflation as workers will want more money to cover higher costs of living that will inevitably lead to a downward spiral giving an financial depression that costs people their livelihood which in turn increases crime ...
espeir wrote:
I think we should be entitled to make their oil our own
What's yours is yours, what's somebody elses is also yours. </Being deliberately contentious> Are these things really what you want ?
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Reagon outspends Soviet Union on Military, almost causing USA bankruptcy
Yeah, but it DID end the cold war, by causing USSR bankruptcy.
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If the middle east gets much worse, I think the price of oil is going to be the least of our worries. I suspect Israel will simply get tired of the whole thing, and then start lobbing nukes around.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
The middle east is screwed up. Everybody knows that. Group A hates Groups B and C and vice versa, etc..., etc... It seems like everyone wants to prove how their side is less evil than the other side or show that their enemy is a hypocrite, bla bla bla. We all know that this is transparent propaganda and half of it is lies on both sides. The fact of the matter is that the middle east NEEDS some big fights like this to get all the nonsense out of their systems. Do you think the Americans hates Germany or Japan? No. Why? Because we got to duke it out a while back, shook hands and moved on. We didn't lob 10 bombs a year at civilians out of spite. Doing it like that gets nothing accomplished. A good butt-whipping is sometimes necessary to help you realign your perspective.
"Everything I listed is intended to eliminate the tyranny of the majority." -Vincent Reynolds on American Democracy
espeir wrote:
Do you think the Americans hates Germany or Japan?
Plenty of American WW2 vets were angry at Japan for the rest of their lives. Further, I'm sure that France, Korea, and China maintained a grudge against their invaders for a long, long time. Even today, you can see anti-Japanese protests in China. http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/04/10/china.japan.protest/index.html[^]
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I suspect Israel will simply get tired of the whole thing, and then start lobbing nukes around.
What a wonderful prospect to look forward to :mad:X|
Hey, the only thing you can do is find a good seat, grab a beer, and watch from a distance, because nothing you, me, or anyone else here says or does is going to change the inevitable outcome.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Hey, the only thing you can do is find a good seat, grab a beer, and watch from a distance, because nothing you, me, or anyone else here says or does is going to change the inevitable outcome.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001<stupid comment comming> I suspect that if America were to place extraordinary pressure on all parties to resolve their disagreements in a forceful and even handed manner, ignoring any and all of the pressure groups in America's bank yard (you know who I mean!), if need be by physically locking them in a darkened room until sense is found, then this issue will sooner or later evaporate. This means that there must be no "We support Israel and only Israel, so Israel go and do your worst as we don't mind and we won't stop you but we will also lambast those 'stinking' arabs and palestinians" from America. But we don't live in a utopian world so the premis of a even handed approach with justice for all parties for the furtherment of all humanity is no more than "pie in the sky" or even "cloud cuckoo-land". </stupid comment finished> Reply not necessary :|
