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  • E Ed Gadziemski

    Ryan Roberts wrote:

    To many here and in the Arab world Hezbollah are covered in glory And how the hell is that objective journalism? It's the Hugh Edwards trick of putting "people say" before an opinion you agree with, that isn't news, that's poorly disguised editorial.

    How should it be reported in your view?


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    As an opinion piece, not as news. "people say" whatever the hell the journalist wants.

    Ryan

    "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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      Why report it at all? It's *not* news. Who gives a shiite!

      Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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      ahz wrote:

      Why report it at all? It's *not* news.

      Just to help me understand your perspective, please provide a link to an article along the same lines (i.e. war in the ME) that you think is news and is unbiased.


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        As an opinion piece, not as news. "people say" whatever the hell the journalist wants.

        Ryan

        "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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        Ryan Roberts wrote:

        "people say" whatever the hell the journalist wants

        Isn't that true of any article that quotes people? Whether the quote is from George Bush, Tony Bliar, Ehud Olmert or the man in the moon, "people" are going to spin their words in the fashion that best suits their agenda.


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        • E Ed Gadziemski

          ahz wrote:

          Why report it at all? It's *not* news.

          Just to help me understand your perspective, please provide a link to an article along the same lines (i.e. war in the ME) that you think is news and is unbiased.


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          no

          Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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          • E Ed Gadziemski

            Ryan Roberts wrote:

            "people say" whatever the hell the journalist wants

            Isn't that true of any article that quotes people? Whether the quote is from George Bush, Tony Bliar, Ehud Olmert or the man in the moon, "people" are going to spin their words in the fashion that best suits their agenda.


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            It's unattributed, quoting someone, naming them and not paraphrasing would be reasonable. It's the "people say" trick that is not objective.

            Ryan

            "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              no

              Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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              Speaks volumes about you.


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              • E Ed Gadziemski

                Speaks volumes about you.


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                Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                Speaks volumes about you.

                Yeah, it says "I'm not your lackey." and "I don't need to prove anything." and "You're an adult, do your own research."

                Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                  Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                  Speaks volumes about you.

                  Yeah, it says "I'm not your lackey." and "I don't need to prove anything." and "You're an adult, do your own research."

                  Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                  ahz wrote:

                  "You're an adult, do your own research."

                  That's a silly contention. How am I supposed to guess what you think is appropriate reportage? If you're too childish to back up your big mouth with actual beliefs or facts, this conversation is useless. No wonder you admire espier so much. You and him are peas of a pod.


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                  • E Ed Gadziemski

                    ahz wrote:

                    "You're an adult, do your own research."

                    That's a silly contention. How am I supposed to guess what you think is appropriate reportage? If you're too childish to back up your big mouth with actual beliefs or facts, this conversation is useless. No wonder you admire espier so much. You and him are peas of a pod.


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                    Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                    admire espier

                    Boy, ah say, Boy, you're barking up the wrong tree!

                    Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                    • E Ed Gadziemski

                      ahz wrote:

                      "You're an adult, do your own research."

                      That's a silly contention. How am I supposed to guess what you think is appropriate reportage? If you're too childish to back up your big mouth with actual beliefs or facts, this conversation is useless. No wonder you admire espier so much. You and him are peas of a pod.


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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                      That's a silly contention.

                      No, that's an accurate contention. You're the one in doubt and know what you'll accept as "unbiased" reportage. I do not know you nor what you'd accept. Do your own work.

                      Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                      How am I supposed to guess what you think is appropriate reportage?

                      You're not supposed to guess what I would think. Think for yourself.

                      Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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