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    Agnihothra
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    Found this on the web... A real brain challenging story sent in by BOTW: A few centuries ago, a Law teacher came across a student who was willing to learn but was unable to pay the fees. The student struck a deal with the teacher saying, “I will pay your fee the day I win my first case in the court”. The teacher agreed and proceeded with the law course. When the course was finished and teacher started pestering the student to pay up, the student reminded him of the deal and refused to pay. Fed up with this, the teacher decided to sue the student in the court of law and both of them decided to argue for themselves. The teacher put forward his argument saying: ” If I win this case, as per the court of law, the student has to pay me as the case is about his non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, student will still pay me because he would have won his first case. So either way I will have to get the money”. Quickly, the brilliant student argued back with: “If I win the case, as per the court of law, I don’t have to pay anything to the teacher as the case is about my non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, I don’t have to pay him because I haven’t won my first case yet. So either way, I am not going to pay the teacher anything”. This is one of the greatest paradoxes ever recorded in history. regards Agni

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      Found this on the web... A real brain challenging story sent in by BOTW: A few centuries ago, a Law teacher came across a student who was willing to learn but was unable to pay the fees. The student struck a deal with the teacher saying, “I will pay your fee the day I win my first case in the court”. The teacher agreed and proceeded with the law course. When the course was finished and teacher started pestering the student to pay up, the student reminded him of the deal and refused to pay. Fed up with this, the teacher decided to sue the student in the court of law and both of them decided to argue for themselves. The teacher put forward his argument saying: ” If I win this case, as per the court of law, the student has to pay me as the case is about his non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, student will still pay me because he would have won his first case. So either way I will have to get the money”. Quickly, the brilliant student argued back with: “If I win the case, as per the court of law, I don’t have to pay anything to the teacher as the case is about my non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, I don’t have to pay him because I haven’t won my first case yet. So either way, I am not going to pay the teacher anything”. This is one of the greatest paradoxes ever recorded in history. regards Agni

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      Bassam Abdul Baki
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      The case was probably dismissed. :)


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        The case was probably dismissed. :)


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        Agnihothra
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        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

        The case was probably dismissed

        :laugh:

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          Found this on the web... A real brain challenging story sent in by BOTW: A few centuries ago, a Law teacher came across a student who was willing to learn but was unable to pay the fees. The student struck a deal with the teacher saying, “I will pay your fee the day I win my first case in the court”. The teacher agreed and proceeded with the law course. When the course was finished and teacher started pestering the student to pay up, the student reminded him of the deal and refused to pay. Fed up with this, the teacher decided to sue the student in the court of law and both of them decided to argue for themselves. The teacher put forward his argument saying: ” If I win this case, as per the court of law, the student has to pay me as the case is about his non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, student will still pay me because he would have won his first case. So either way I will have to get the money”. Quickly, the brilliant student argued back with: “If I win the case, as per the court of law, I don’t have to pay anything to the teacher as the case is about my non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, I don’t have to pay him because I haven’t won my first case yet. So either way, I am not going to pay the teacher anything”. This is one of the greatest paradoxes ever recorded in history. regards Agni

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          Rob Graham
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          another frivolous lawsuit...

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            Found this on the web... A real brain challenging story sent in by BOTW: A few centuries ago, a Law teacher came across a student who was willing to learn but was unable to pay the fees. The student struck a deal with the teacher saying, “I will pay your fee the day I win my first case in the court”. The teacher agreed and proceeded with the law course. When the course was finished and teacher started pestering the student to pay up, the student reminded him of the deal and refused to pay. Fed up with this, the teacher decided to sue the student in the court of law and both of them decided to argue for themselves. The teacher put forward his argument saying: ” If I win this case, as per the court of law, the student has to pay me as the case is about his non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, student will still pay me because he would have won his first case. So either way I will have to get the money”. Quickly, the brilliant student argued back with: “If I win the case, as per the court of law, I don’t have to pay anything to the teacher as the case is about my non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, I don’t have to pay him because I haven’t won my first case yet. So either way, I am not going to pay the teacher anything”. This is one of the greatest paradoxes ever recorded in history. regards Agni

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            Chris Maunder
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            Agnihothra wrote:

            This is one of the greatest paradoxes ever recorded in history.

            Rubbish. 1. If he wins he doesn't have to pay. So far so good. 2. If he loses, then it means the teacher has convinced the court that the original agreement is invalid. Therefore he has to pay - not because of the agreement, but because the courts have ordered him on the basis that the original agreement was not sound.

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              Found this on the web... A real brain challenging story sent in by BOTW: A few centuries ago, a Law teacher came across a student who was willing to learn but was unable to pay the fees. The student struck a deal with the teacher saying, “I will pay your fee the day I win my first case in the court”. The teacher agreed and proceeded with the law course. When the course was finished and teacher started pestering the student to pay up, the student reminded him of the deal and refused to pay. Fed up with this, the teacher decided to sue the student in the court of law and both of them decided to argue for themselves. The teacher put forward his argument saying: ” If I win this case, as per the court of law, the student has to pay me as the case is about his non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, student will still pay me because he would have won his first case. So either way I will have to get the money”. Quickly, the brilliant student argued back with: “If I win the case, as per the court of law, I don’t have to pay anything to the teacher as the case is about my non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, I don’t have to pay him because I haven’t won my first case yet. So either way, I am not going to pay the teacher anything”. This is one of the greatest paradoxes ever recorded in history. regards Agni

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              pseudonym67
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              Agnihothra wrote:

              This is one of the greatest paradoxes ever recorded in history.

              More like a really good example of why no one likes lawyers.

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                Found this on the web... A real brain challenging story sent in by BOTW: A few centuries ago, a Law teacher came across a student who was willing to learn but was unable to pay the fees. The student struck a deal with the teacher saying, “I will pay your fee the day I win my first case in the court”. The teacher agreed and proceeded with the law course. When the course was finished and teacher started pestering the student to pay up, the student reminded him of the deal and refused to pay. Fed up with this, the teacher decided to sue the student in the court of law and both of them decided to argue for themselves. The teacher put forward his argument saying: ” If I win this case, as per the court of law, the student has to pay me as the case is about his non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, student will still pay me because he would have won his first case. So either way I will have to get the money”. Quickly, the brilliant student argued back with: “If I win the case, as per the court of law, I don’t have to pay anything to the teacher as the case is about my non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, I don’t have to pay him because I haven’t won my first case yet. So either way, I am not going to pay the teacher anything”. This is one of the greatest paradoxes ever recorded in history. regards Agni

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                Gary R Wheeler
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                The judge has both of them jailed for contempt of court and shouts "Next case!"


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                  Found this on the web... A real brain challenging story sent in by BOTW: A few centuries ago, a Law teacher came across a student who was willing to learn but was unable to pay the fees. The student struck a deal with the teacher saying, “I will pay your fee the day I win my first case in the court”. The teacher agreed and proceeded with the law course. When the course was finished and teacher started pestering the student to pay up, the student reminded him of the deal and refused to pay. Fed up with this, the teacher decided to sue the student in the court of law and both of them decided to argue for themselves. The teacher put forward his argument saying: ” If I win this case, as per the court of law, the student has to pay me as the case is about his non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, student will still pay me because he would have won his first case. So either way I will have to get the money”. Quickly, the brilliant student argued back with: “If I win the case, as per the court of law, I don’t have to pay anything to the teacher as the case is about my non-payment of dues. And if I lose the case, I don’t have to pay him because I haven’t won my first case yet. So either way, I am not going to pay the teacher anything”. This is one of the greatest paradoxes ever recorded in history. regards Agni

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                  Agnihothra wrote:

                  the teacher decided to sue the student

                  The teacher canot sue the student for breach of contract, the student hasnt won a case yet, so the contract cannot be fulfilled yet. So, the Teacher is sueing for a different reason, that he taught the student and the student owes him money. He will loose as they have a standing contract concerning the payment that cant be enforced yet. When the teacher looses, the contract must be fulfilled and the student must pay. If the student doesnt pay, he can then be sued for breach of contract whereupon he will loose.

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